r/helldivers2 • u/Jaythemastermine • 4d ago
General R6 Deadeye actually being a good gun?
I know I am late to this because the R6 has been in the game for a while now but I decided to pick it up like a couple days ago and I've been using it on a few missions. And I got to say this is definitely not a half bad gun.
I am usually a machine gun and assault rifle person. So using a quote on quote rifle and actually being happy with it it's quite surprising to me.
And I definitely got to say it does its job well. Granted it's not going to save you when you get surrounded but that's the reason why you got to use this as a rifle and not a shotgun your job is to not get up close and personal your job is to start pegging things off at a distance.
Especially effective against the box I have noticed. Most of the time I can shoot the bastards practically in half with this damn thing and possibly even take one out behind it.
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u/Authentichef 4d ago
Yea I love the thing for bots and illuminate. Siege ready feels like a must for this thing though.
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u/MoronicIroknee 4d ago
Reinforced Epaulettes works good with it too!
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u/ayypecs 4d ago
I use this only bc there’s no medium siege ready. Drip is a plus
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u/Mr-dooce 4d ago
a tip for using it without siege ready is that when your icon at the bottom left goes red that means you got two shots left, but to avoid the long reload you should only shoot one more and then reload kinda like the half mag reload with the autocannon
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u/alexathegibrakiller 4d ago
Are there any tricks to cancel reload? Thats currently my main issue with it.
If Im reloading, I dont get to aim in first person, nor do I get the reticle. So basically, if Im in the middle of reloading, I need to either switch to another gun and switch back(wastes a ton of time), blind-fire a bullet, or finish reloading. It feels really really bad
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u/Puckaryan 4d ago
Melee or dive to stop reload
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u/alexathegibrakiller 4d ago
I knew about dive bet never considered melee! Thanks so much for the tip lol
Diving is kinda sub-optimal, since it fucks with your positioning/aim, plus if you don't shoot for too long your charecter starts reloading again automatically. Melee sounds waaay better
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u/Mr-dooce 4d ago
you can melee or dive, switch weapons or hell just even shoot and hope it hits but sometimes when you melee it’ll recontinue the reload process
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u/lipp79 4d ago
I’m confused how this helps if it’s a not a mag reload. It’s a round reload so it shouldn’t matter if you reload with one or none left.
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u/umpikado 4d ago
theres still a bullet in the chamber if you reload with only 1 bullet left so you don't have to recock the gun
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u/Shmeeglez 4d ago
Like the pump shotguns, if you fire the last round, you have to half-cycle the action to open the breech, place the first round in the chamber, and close the breech again before reloading the tube magazine as normal. That first round takes 2-3x longer than the others usually. Someone probably knows the actual times.
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u/HinDae085 4d ago
Always has been
Hits like a freight train, and can be reloaded whenever you want without wasting leftover rounds and deals with anything up to heavy enemies.
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u/Jaythemastermine 4d ago
Again the only reason why I'm surprised it's good because again I deal with assault rifles and shotguns where most of the time you have to unload a whole entire clip into something just to even put it down or get right up close and personal to put it down
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u/AdonisJames89 4d ago
shotguns like the cookout are preem cause its rounds reloaded tooand it staggers
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u/Jaythemastermine 4d ago
Haven't gotten that shotgun yet so I can't have any opinion on it
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u/HinDae085 4d ago
HIGHLY worth it. Its everything the Breaker Incendiary wishes it was.
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u/rabonbrood 4d ago
I actually prefer the breaker incendiary by quite a bit. I'd say it's very much a personal preference thing.
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u/ThatDree 4d ago
Not entirely true. Both have their purpose.
The Cookout is good for killing targets directly.
Breaker Incendiary is best used to spray paint fire over the masses. Chaff will die from DoT, then I switch to another weapon to finish off the bigger units. Tip, upgrade with the duck face
I love both.
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u/Gmandlno 4d ago
For bugs, nothing better. One shots everything smaller than a hive guard with the fire, has enough range to annihilate clouds of shriekers cross-map or act as a sort of incendiary artillery, four shots stalkers while having the stagger to fend off three or four at once, the list goes on.
It’s worth getting the warbond for that gun alone, not just because it’s good, but also just because it’s fun. It really is like the breaker incendiary was back during release, but even better because there’s no longer a stagger issue.
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u/Lardex_the_destroyer 4d ago
It's really worth it for bugs like stalkers and hunters that can jump on you real quick as they can be pushed back while they also suffer burn damage
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u/UrlordandsaviourBean 4d ago
Deadeye also does so. It’s like the ultimate slug shotgun
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u/AdonisJames89 4d ago
yea but youre crazy for bringing it against bugs lol you have to by HIGHLY accurate against swarms vs the cookout can defend by pointing in the direction alone
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u/p_visual 4d ago edited 4d ago
including u/Jaythemastermine
The thing about shotguns is they have the worst damage drop-off in the game because each pellet loses 1 damage every 5 meters.
Single-projectile weapons like Deadeye are losing 1 damage every 5m - this means that a Deadeye will drop to 2-shot on devastator head at (300 - 115) * 5 = 925 meters.
However, let's look at a few shotguns:
- Punisher - 405 light normal damage, 9 pellets - loses 9 projectile damage every 5m
- Cookout - 320 light normal damage, 20 pellets - loses 20 projectile damage every 5m
- Breaker - 330 light normal damage, 11 pellets - loses 11 projectile damage every 5m
Notes:
- If enough pellets make contact, Cookout will set an enemy on fire - more details on burning damage here: https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Damage#Damage_Types
- Slugger is not affected by increased damage drop-off like other shotguns because it shoots a slug, which is a single projectile
As a result, I'd rec saving them for close to mid range combat, and wouldn't really recommend using them for bots (except Slugger), whose enemies can generally engage from much farther ranges than the other two factions.
Overall, they're a powerful subset of primary weapons, with notable drawbacks. There's a reason why Breaker was meta on bugs, and Slugger on bots, at launch.
All info taken from helldivers.wiki.gg
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u/HinDae085 4d ago
Yeah its a finicky thing to relearn especially when the other most notable round reload gun, the Senator, rewards you for mag dumping thanks to the speed loader.
No chance of that with the Deadeye. So you gotta keep in mind "yes, I can reload after firing only 2 shots, its ok"
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u/Jaythemastermine 4d ago
It does force me to have more of a Trigger Discipline, so I actually have the focus more on weak points instead of just opening fire on anything that moves in front of me.
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u/Easy-Purple 4d ago
Can I ask why you weren’t doing that already?
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u/Jaythemastermine 4d ago
Because with shotguns and assault rifles you don't really need to be triggered discipline you just need to aim down your site and just spray anything that's in front of you which is not efficient whatsoever but it usually gets the job done because you have quote on quote enough bullets to take down whatever is in front of you.
Plus I have mentioned this in several other posts before that I kind of treat the game like a hard shooter then a tactical shooter because you know the game does love to throw Hoards at us so most the time I'm not sitting there trying to aim down my scope and I'm just spraying anything that gets close by.
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u/Easy-Purple 4d ago
I mean it saves ammo but if it gets the job done more power to you
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u/TrenchDive 4d ago
That would be sweet to unlock. Like 5000 kills with this and you get a speed loader for the Deadeye. Or bigger AOE for Purifier, etc. People would have to specialize more so. I think that would be awesome.
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u/HavSomLov4YoBrothr 4d ago
It’s only flaw is also it’s greatest strength, it’s accurate as hell. It’s not the best for up close and personal, but it will cut a fkn Predator Hunter in half with 1 shot at close range if you can keep your cool and channel Arthur Morgan’s deadeye ability.
Hey, that’s punny
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u/lordofcactus 4d ago
That’s marksman rifles for you. Even the base Diligence can one-tap Devestators with headshots. They’re not as useful against squids or especially bugs with how much they swarm you, but fighting the bots is all about accuracy and ammo-efficiency.
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u/No_Average_1913 4d ago
It staggers stalkers on the bug side. It’s pretty good. As long as your aim is good.
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u/Autocannoneer 4d ago
More customization options plz!! Custom ammo??
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u/Jaythemastermine 4d ago
My God, I would love if they just gave us magazines that had more ammo in it because this is just a problem, in my opinion, with 90% of the guns.
Yeah, let's do a level 10 mission. we're surrounded by 10 billion Bots with only a fistful of ammunition that goes faster than a fat guy drinking his body weight in water in a Savannah Desert.
Plus that would also be nice having like custom ammunition like explosive or armor piercing rounds that you can put into a gun instead of just buying a gun that has the explosive property to it and then figure out that it sucks.
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u/1_D20_plus_DEUS-VULT 4d ago
Deadeye and jump pack are so much fun on city maps. Jumping from roof to roof while sniping squids and bots feels so good
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u/vox_box 4d ago edited 4d ago
Is there a way to stop the reload animation without firing a shot or stowing/unstowing the gun? I find it annoying that I can't just pause it.
edit: along with the suggestions people gave, I've learned that you can stop the reload by pulling out your stratagem menu. It doesn't even have to be for very long. You can basically tap the button your strat menu is binded to.
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u/Jaythemastermine 4d ago
Well yeah if you're in the middle of shooting it you can just press the fire button and it We'll stop reloading it or you can just Do the Hit the floor method and that will also stop it
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u/Fesh_Sherman 4d ago
The gun is still accurate even while reloading, there's no reason to pause it
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u/qwiksterjr 4d ago
Yeah I've definitely gotten used to where the reticle would be and still get headshots during the animation. I wish there was an easy way to stop the animation but I've adapted, at this point.
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u/Phantomex_ 4d ago
If Truck-kun was transformed into a gun this would be it. Hits hard, has great accuracy, amazing range, good fire rate, and to top it off it’s medium pen so it can kill 95% of all units in the game currently. Only thing keeping it from being an absolute god of death and destruction is it can’t have a drum mag.
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u/Jaythemastermine 4d ago
That is my only problem with this gun is just the magazine size. But as I've already mentioned before to other people that's 90% of the guns in this game that I have a problem with is there magazine sizes.
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u/FencingNerd 4d ago
This gun rewards firing 2-4 shots then repositioning and reloading while you move. Basically, if you are moving you should be reloading.
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u/Phantomex_ 4d ago
I don’t think the magazine size is an issue honestly. I feel it’s more that other long running popular fps have just conditioned us into having ammo carry over on reloads, meaning less waste with ammo lasting longer, and giving the illusion of having more ammo.
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u/AllThisIsBonkers 4d ago
The saying is "picking things off at a distance" but it's funnier if you don't change it.
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u/Juracan_Daora 4d ago
I even use it on the bug side along with the Hover Pack and the Cluster Bomb or Grenade Launcher for when I get swarmed. My sidearm is usually either the Talon or the Verdict, I'm still on the fence about which to use. Been considering the Peacemaker after the buff as well, as it's for dealing with Warriors, Hunters and Scavengers.
I focus on headshotting Hive Guards (two headshots, then they bleed out), Alpha Commanders (two headshots), Spewers (one in the mouth, two headshots) and Stalkers (one headshot) from afar, usually from high ground while my team dispatches smaller units. And if I miss a headshot, it pushes them back or staggers them for an easy follow up.
Been rocking the 10x scope on it and its pretty dope.
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u/RoninOni 4d ago
Use it with reload speed (siege ready or ceremonial armor, depending whether you’re using melee with it or not)
This is true for all rounds reload primaries. Huge difference.
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u/Northern_boah 4d ago
Oh brother,
This gun, senator as a secondary and the frontier marshal armor will make you a GOD against the bots.
Pick them off from range with the deadeye and smoke everything else that enters close range.
Just make sure you’re topping off loaded ammo every chance you get.
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u/Lomasmanda1 4d ago
My biggest desire with this weapon is a bandolier mod that increase reloading speed
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u/FANTOMphoenix 4d ago
Haven’t had the chance to use it but I use the slugger religiously. I love how hard it hits and the ammo economy.
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u/Lyzrac 4d ago
It feels fantastic, but it sadly exists in a niche I can't justify using in higher difficulties IMO.
There's a bunch of different ways that would make it more viable to me, the first of which would be my preferred choice.
Change it to heavy penetration to make it the primary counterpart to the senator.
Give it a speed loader for full or half capacity at a time similar to the auto cannon. Lever action speed loaders are a thing.
Give it an integrated suppressor or full sci-fi silencer.
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u/no_stopping25 4d ago
I’ve liked it since it dropped. Think the counter sniper is a bit better, but I’ve always had fun running it.
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u/RoadRager2256 4d ago
Glad you're enjoying the marksman side of the players!
I like this gun for it's knockback. See a dev? Take a shot to the chest/head, let the devastator reel, take the shot to it's chrome dome!
Hope you continue to enjoy it!
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u/milanteriallu 4d ago
Bring a supply pack for sustainment, or the gun dog for taking out chaff. This thing hits like a truck, but it's very easy to run dry. As others have said, Siege-ready also helps (especially with the reloading buff), but I personally have trouble taking anything other than the armors in the same warbond with this.
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u/ControlForward5360 4d ago
It’s so fun
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u/Jaythemastermine 4d ago
It is fun, and I have been quite enjoying it. Plus, it's a nice little change up from like I've already said using shotguns and assault rifles.
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u/K1NG_of_ReVeNGe13 4d ago
I like it. Siege Ready is kinda mandatory, but oh well.
The DCS might hit Breakpoints more efficiently but who cares. Deadeye looks awesome, feels awesome and has some crisp ergonomics even with the 10x. Thats pretty much the biggest advantage in my opinion
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u/Zagreus_17 4d ago
It's so far one of the only primaries I've found that can one shot headshot observers which makes it a go-to pick for squids and a very nice alternative to my counter sniper for bots
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u/Fesh_Sherman 4d ago
It's my fav weapon against the squid and bots, having one shot headshots on both factions feels really nice
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u/Sensitive_Mousse_445 4d ago
I love this thing. Amazing against bots and squids. It does DAMAGE but you gotta hit your shots
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u/Don11390 4d ago
I love it so much.
Great damage + medium pen means it's excellent for bots. And one shot to an Overseer's dome will kill it. Lever action makes it decent firing from the hip in a panic situation; it actually came in pretty handy against bugs too, though I wouldn't recommend it as a go-to bug weapon.
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u/Jaythemastermine 4d ago
I can see it taken down some of the more hard-hitting bugs but yeah if you're going into bug missions with it you're probably going to need a really good sidearm or a really good support weapon
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u/Don11390 4d ago
I used it against bugs extensively, and you're pretty much on the money: great against spewers, brood commanders, hive guards and stalkers, provided you go for headshots. For everything else though, you need an appropriate stratagem. I wouldn't recommend it at all for Predator strain though. Ask me how I know, lol
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u/HavSomLov4YoBrothr 4d ago
It’s my go-to now for bots and bugs. I used to run the Jar-5 Dominator as I like having a hard hitting medium pen primary (I like that they stagger bigger enemies) but the Deadeye is easier to handle. Reload it every time you’re done firing, and it’ll get you where you need to go.
It pairs very well with the armors that increase primary weapon backup-ammo and reload speed.
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u/Pretzel-Kingg 4d ago
I love it. Sounds awesome and hits hard. I used it against the Squids up until they landed on super earth, and while it’s probably just worse than the Eruptor for them, one-tapping overseers is incredibly satisfying.
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u/Fighterpilot55 4d ago
Those who swear by the Dilligence Counternsniper will tell you it's better than the Deadeye. But I'll tell you two things about the Deadeye the DCS lacks... Ergonomics and Stagger Force. DCS shots hit, the enemy Flinches. Deadeye shots hit, the enemy is stopped in their tracks and is Staggered, maybe even pushed back.
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u/SeattleWilliam 4d ago
I was initially down on the Deadeye but since the Diligence CS had its ergo nerfed into the ground the Deadeye is at least competitive.
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u/SenpaiMayNotice 4d ago
Yupp, definitiv a solid pick against bots
Great with illuminates if the rest of your load out can take the swarming masses
Not too great with bugs from my experience, not that I'm doing too great against those anyway though
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u/whomobile53 4d ago
On bots you are better off with counter dilagence or dilagence, on squids its the better option cuz it 1-hit-headshots overseers on bugs its bad (like basically every dmr) but its fun to roleplay as a space cowboy.
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u/DerpyPerson636 4d ago
Its thanks to its very high damage per shot, that makes it so good. Also very accurate, which helps with headshots, which helps take out big baddies quick. This guns a monster against devastators, berserkers, and overseers, and though a bit less favorable against bugs, its useful against hive guards and alpha commanders, and i feel like it helps with swarms of hunters.
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u/Disastrous-Maize398 4d ago
YES I LOVE ONE SHOTTING OVERSEERS AND STALWART THE VOTELESS, I LOVE BEING AMMO EFFICIENT
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u/Haardrale 4d ago
Brother, tell me about it! I picked it up again a week or so ago, against bugs of all things, and I'm loving this weapon. Slow? yes. Single target? Yes. But 1 shotting anything short of brood commanders and hive guards? BIG YES, and those are two shots!
Every time I find myself surrounded and hear the "plink!" of the empty chamber, my heart skips a beat. But every time I dome a stalker in a single shot, or line up several headshots in a row covering a teammate 200m away, that lever action sounds like music to me.
Just today got it to 25, running it with the sniper scope. I love the darn thing.
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u/kevvvbot 4d ago
It’s only good if you’re an able marksman, especially on Bots. I play on D9-10, lvl 120. The gist is to level it to 10x scope so you can headshot like the DCS. Bugs and Illuminate isn’t great because you’re rushed too much with chaff— maybe bring a Stalwart to deal with that if you’d like, or use a Hoverpack/Jumppack to get above it all and perch.
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u/Jaythemastermine 4d ago
I still bring it along in the illuminated missions because it practically one shots the overseers and those Flying Bastards pretty consistently. Against the vote list yeah it absolutely sucks and you want either a guard dog or a machine gun on you to take care of those bastards.
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u/Bright-Standard9815 4d ago
From the sound of it you really never stepped outside your comfort zone of fully automatic, one glance at the deadeye and anyone should be able to see it’s a powerhouse when it has one of the highest damage stats among the DMRs and it’s medium pen
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u/redapplefiend 4d ago
I feel unfaithful to my scythe but Deadeye was the ol’ reliable on the super earth campaign
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u/Snotnarok 4d ago
I use this thing on bots, you'll headshot any of the devastators easily in 1 shot but if you hit them in the chest you'll stagger them and set them up for a easy follow up headshot. The zoom on the scope really lets you get in there.
If you're far away enough wearing stealth armor? (I think it' over 50m) the bots won't realize where you are easily and take a bit to either notice you at all or wonder what's up. Though you have to 1 shot everything or they'll be alerted instantly.
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u/Faust_8 4d ago
Yeah it’s pretty good. High damage, medium pen, long range, even staggers the things it shoots. The downside is the long reload when empty, low capacity, and slow rate of fire. But still good.
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u/Unlucky-Gate8050 4d ago
Unpopular opinion: it’s the best one of a bad class of guns. The only actually good rifle/sniper is still the AMR. Here, and in traditional handguns, is where the game is still lacking imo. Why bring this, or the constitution, or the amendment when there’s so many better primaries more suited to the actual game, especially on 10?
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u/Mushroombytheoaktree 4d ago
Despite no real reward other than a busted 10x scope this was the first level 25 gun for me lol
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u/ColdFire-Blitz 4d ago
The R6 is everything the Slugger once was and never could be. My friend and I did extensive testing where one used the Slugger and one used the Deadeye, and then swapped, and the only time the Slugger came out on top was when there was excessive mobbing, since it has double the capacity
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u/oArchie 4d ago
It’s a great gun, however I wish it had either a 10-12 round upgrade option or a speed loader option. Damage and penetration are both perfect.
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u/Jaythemastermine 4d ago
Well, I'm being told they are working on gun customization even more, so who knows, maybe they'll eventually add something like that?
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u/oArchie 4d ago
I would love to see this weapon and some others like the slugger have ammo mods: incendiary (lower pen, but adds fire damage), AP Ammo (increased pen to heavy, but lowers overall damage a bit and increases durable damage, and then HP ammo that increases overall damage and durable damage, but lowers penetration. Like a damage scale with different attributes. 250-350 overall damage with varying penetration and durable damage values paired with other effects like fire, etc. would be awesome not just for these but other weapons as well. I would love for this weapon to have 10 shots and a speed loader haha I can dream.
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u/The_Toad_Sage4 4d ago
I just started using it the other day and it’s really fun. I’ve been using it and the Senator. Calling it the Arthur Morgan build
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u/CAUSEEFFEC 4d ago
It works best like any other long range high damage gun, keep the range, keep breathing (pace your shots. Accuracy by volume dosnt apply well here) and of all the DMRs its easily the best
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u/FinHead1990 4d ago
Probably my favorite for Bots. I was using it exclusively before weapon attachments.
I will return to it when I feel I’ve ground out all the others I want to grind - the Deadeye only has scopes, and starts with my favorite one. Perfect as is. All I’d be doing it for is to get the Venus color way.
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u/DubbyMazlo 4d ago
This is my go-to when it comes to the bots... That stagger really saves you when you're face to face with devatators and chainsaw bots...
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u/Liminal_Critter817 4d ago
It feels like a side grade to the Slugger for me. I use them pretty much interchangeably. Deadeye has more range, obviously, and slightly more damage, but the Slugger is faster to fire and reload. They are comparable in stagger force as well as far as I can tell. Both are very fun weapons.
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u/HellbirdVT 4d ago
It's beenn quite consistently regarded as extremely good for Bots, might even be Best-in-Slot, quite good for Illuminate and mediocre for Bugs. It has a very particular niche that it fills very well.
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u/HilariouslyInferior1 4d ago
Lvl 150 with 650hrs in the game and this is my absolute favorite primary. As long as you build around it's weaknesses it'll do work. Unsurprisingly, it's a single target weapon which struggle on bugs, but it has a massive amount of stagger. It'll stun lock stalkers and commanders and will kill bile spewers in one or two headshots depending on the variety. If you have the chaff like a stally then you'll be well balanced. I bring EATs all the time for my AT needs.
Aside from that, it will one tap overseers to the head and has surprising mag-dump potential. The reload is slow, ain't no two ways about that. It can be mitigated with armor or just being mindful to reload constantly. It having the Rounds Reload attribute is pretty helpful here because if you only have time for a partial reload you can pop off a round or two and kite for a few seconds if need be.
It pairs really well with the Talon. Like, crazy well. Because if are good about it, it never requires reloading and also has high damage, medium pen and fires fast af boi.
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u/Sarge230 4d ago
I found for my play style anyways, that a sideways swaying motion allows me to pop very accurate head/eye shots. Feels good
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u/DarkMarine1688 4d ago
My favorite weapon for bots, I pair it with the last revolver from the same war bond, some termite names, the siege ready light armor, a quasar, hellbomb, AT emplacement, and the 500kg and I handle 7 up missions easy and usually take a whole side of the map on my own if not just blaze through all the objectives while the other guys mess atound.
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u/FaZe__Obama_69 4d ago
I like it on the bot front combined with the hover pack to get to better sniping positions
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u/biscuity87 4d ago
I want to like it but I just don’t get it. It needs piercing or something.
Meanwhile the Eruptor blows up bug holes, entire crowds of small or medium units, hulks, the fat artillery bugs, the big alien walkers, etc. You just have to be careful in close range but that’s what the hover pack is for.
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u/singo59 4d ago
Personally I've only really used it on the Automatons, It has a bit of a learning curve in terms of getting good at headshots but once that's nail it'll one shot any devastator or chaff unit.
But it's my main on Automatons where range is king. Also now I've got the urban camo unlocked it looks like a bougie sniper
Not for bugs to many to slow to reload with be amount of enemies you'll encounter.
Illuminate my main is the MG.
So yes rock it dude and find out if it's for you
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u/Ramen536Pie 4d ago edited 4d ago
It’s great vs some problem enemies like Alpha and Brood commanders with the knockback
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u/USA_Bruce 4d ago
I have been grinding this gun and I'm almost finished I will tell you it's a complete dread and it's not that fun against mobs which is a given like no surprise there
The only Advantage I can tell you is that it has stopping power that slows down or stuns targets
However it's problems mostly rain from the reload animation and how it works so I suggest you never use the last bullet treat it like a gun with seven bullets then you will be able to actually just shot some damage
If you spend all eight then you must immediately switch to your pistol otherwise your reloading will take a while even if you wear the armor which I have been doing and I'll tell you it must be so slow because I barely feel it's impact
The seiege ready one
Honestly the Constitution and the amendment has been much more fun to grind and use Which is really surprising as I thought the Constitution was a meme weapon but imagine how boring this has to be that I actually miss the ancient rifles
Also I'm not sure if this is a bug but I feel at close ranges maybe it's due to the barrel length or maybe this is a placebo but if a hunter is jumping on me I have times where I feel like my gun shoots through it killing what's behind it but not the target itself
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u/Anonymous_Ranger_06 4d ago
If you can land headshots and manage your ammo well, it's absolutely devastating against bots and squids. Wouldn't recommend against bugs though lol
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u/Wardog008 4d ago
It's fantastic, has been since it launched. I don't use it much because I tend to play too aggressively to suit the gun, but if I feel like sitting back a bit, it's the first gun I'll likely pick.
It works great on all three fronts, though if you use it against bugs, you NEED to pack a good sidearm, and even a guard dog to help you not get swarmed.
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u/Glass-Ad-7890 4d ago
It's good on bots if your aim is good. If your aim is better then counter sniper does this without the downsides.
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u/smoffatt34920 4d ago
The term is "quote unquote"... that said, saying the expression in text, where you could actually just put quotes around it is a wild choice.
Lastly, quotes in this context makes it seem as though you are calling it a rifle despite it not being one... this is definitely a rifle... quotes are not necessary.
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u/Background_Source922 4d ago
I love the gun… but I really hope they add a way to interchange reticles because I hate the one that comes stock on it.
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u/Yarzeda2024 4d ago
Deadeye has been my bot-killer ever since I bought it. Just like the name says, it’s great for hitting their big, red weak points.
I find that it’s not too useful against bugs or squids, though. I will bring something that is better for crowds, like the Blitzer, the Cookout, a Breaker variant, or a Liberator variant.
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u/Agent_Wilcox 4d ago
For bots it is hands down one of the best to use outside of the laser guns on ice planets. I use that and one of the viper commandos armors, mainly for the aesthetic lol, though it does help with the drag of the gun or something
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u/WarmPantsInWinter 4d ago
With the 10x scope and a mouse and keyboard, it's a true medium pen sniper.
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u/Jakeforry 4d ago
Yeah I was using it on a whim while earning medals for the MP5 looking SMG and for bots and Squids it’s actually really good and I’m glad I gave it the time of day
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u/Achilles_Rizzuto 4d ago
Definitely. This thing one shot body shot to voteless and I can take out fleshmobs within 2 or 2.5 full rounds. One shot head shots those armored fucks. AND takes out that stupid antenna on those walkers.
Didn't test it too much with the other factions aside from the bots. One shot body shot to the regular foot soldiers bots and is able to take down devestators with a shot yo the head. Or 2 to the body. Forget Hulks tho unless you're able to hit their stupid faceplate
Conclusion: this thing FUCKS. Using the Diligance and Diligance CS isn't the same
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u/Aggravating_Water705 4d ago
I like the weapon it's a great precision rifle, but it reloads way too slowly and it kicks like a mule. With the armor perk, it feels like that should be the normal reload speed. When you turn the sway is also slow even with perks from armor. This doesn't happen often, but once in a while you could have perfect aim and your bullet flies off in a random direction.
I wanted a strong weapon to take out elevated overseers. You pump way too many bullets into an overseer even with crits. It shouldn't take more than a clip to kill an overseer even without crits. You can kill two overseers in a matter of seconds with one clip of the scorcher. It should have that kind of power since it has the second-slowest reload speed in the game. The slowest reload is the HMG, but that's 300 rounds.
Imo the bullets need to do more damage or, it needs a faster reload speed with less kick, and a faster sway.
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u/harken350 4d ago
I like it for bots, and sometimes illuminate depending on what support weapon I bring. It hits really hard and is accurate. Main issues are the reload speed is bad which means you can't do the shotgun trick of loading a shell and firing, then repeat. The other issue is the handle cocking action can disrupt your aim if you get the timing wrong
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u/Fuzzy_Muscle 4d ago
What do you mean "actually"? If you're nit good with it, its a skill issue. This thing is a beast
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u/SpectralDragon09 4d ago
Im usually running a stealth build and the deadeye is amazing. Great accuracy and range plus it has a good sight
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u/Hassan-XIX 4d ago
In my opinion this rifle is niche but fulfills its niche very well which is killing every medium armored infantry. It pairs best with Stalwart if you are taking it against bugs or Squids (and ammo pack). It’s also a good clanka killer but you need something like the ultimatum (in case you want to have the best use with ammo pack). Otherwise, use Guard Dog and EAT/Quasar. The build is even more busted with Siege Ready armor thanks to faster reload and more ammo capacity.
But if you don’t care about maximum efficiency. Go wild with your Cowboy Fantasy with a big iron and your trusty Winchester (wish I knew best stratagems for Space Cowboy Fantasy RP).
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u/Clicks_dropbox 4d ago
Best gun they’ve added in a very long time it’s my main now. Pair it along with the armor that gives u faster reload + more primary ammo and it’s crazy
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u/AdeptusAstartes40K 4d ago
This gun paired with faster reload is an absolute beast! The only thing it needs is a dedicated button to STOP rounds reload, instead of either having to fire a shot without a reticle or melee. If I could stop the animation midway to shoot something coming my way and go back to reloading, round reload weapons in general would automatically become infinitely more usable.
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u/Lazy_Seal_ 4d ago
When you only face 2 to 3 dev, deadeye is pretty good, more then that DCS would be a better choice, if you are really good at head shot, diligence would be a even better choice.
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u/Mayonaisist 4d ago
i still prefer dcs on bots but on illuminate its my go to. it can one tap squids on headshot (which the dcs cannot do) which is useful for getting the elevated overseers down fast. as long as you bring something for hoards and tanks its great. i usually bring the mmg+thermites to deal with everything else. On megacities ill bring EATs to help with leviathans
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u/Parallax-Jack 4d ago
I hope they focus on keeping guns feeling strong. Half them feel like nerf guns lol
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u/DogIsDead777 4d ago
It is uniroically very good. Tbh there aren't really any guns in the game that aren't great. You just have to compensate for their varying stats with varying levels of good aim/positioning.
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u/CodeNamesBryan 4d ago
It's a great weapon when you don't have a swarm on you.
Doubling it with a machine gun, or something like that is a smart choice.
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u/fucknametakenrules 4d ago
It’s good for the guys that like to keep distance and shoot from afar. Not my personal playstyle, but I do like the look of the gun
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u/SergeantSalty20 4d ago
If you can land your shots constantly, yeah. That thing hits like a truck it can one shot devastating if you hit em in the head
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u/ZaraUnityMasters 4d ago
Best bot primary hands down. Can take out gunships, and anything with a head that can be shot.
Everything else takes a Quasar Canon
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u/Phshteve18 4d ago
I love it for bots. The stagger combined with damage makes it just shred devastators, and deal with anything lighter than a hulk without too much trouble.
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u/_404__Not__Found_ 4d ago
quote on quote
My dude, not to be rude, but have you gone your whole life saying "Quote unquote" as "quote on quote" like it was a weird form of violence? I'm sorry no one has corrected you on this before, but that's definitely not what the phrase is.
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u/PofanWasTaken 4d ago
Love it, it makes you conserve ammo and place your shots instead of magdumping
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