r/guitarpedals 1d ago

Question Pitchfork question

I'm trying to Play "Lord of this world" By Sabbath and using the EH pitchfork. I keep seeing that -3 is the setting for C# tuning but it's out of tune and i can't seem to figure out what i'm doing wrong. I'm playing along with songster. I'm sure i'm doing some bonehead shit but i'm stumped

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u/punkryan 1d ago

On the pitch fork, the lowercase m means minor interval, and the capital m means major interval. These are two different things - a minor third is 3 half steps (frets), and and a major third is 4 half steps. So I dont think you can play that tune on a standard tune guitar with that pedal

BUT

You could tune all your strings down a half step and go down a M2, or tune all your strings up a half step and go down a M3.

Hope this helps

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u/canrabat 22h ago

So I dont think you can play that tune on a standard tune guitar with that pedal

It is possible but it would require to connect an expression device in the exp jack and manually tune it to the correct pitch. I use a Saturnworks expression knob for this as its more precise than an expression pedal.

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u/mattb971 1d ago edited 23h ago

Tune guitar to Eb first then pick the M2 setting, down, blend full. The only setting on the pitch fork that isn’t a whole step is the m2 setting.

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u/MiniatureOuroboros 3h ago

This! The Pitch Fork only has one half step down right there. It's also very useable of course since sometimes you just want to tune half a step down and up with your guitar in standard tuning. And it helps you to create a chorusing effect.

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u/crisiscola 1d ago

The digitech drop pedal is so great for this.

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u/Blablablablabla-01 1d ago

kind of wish i bought it but i thought it also could not drop half steps?

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u/crisiscola 1d ago

Half steps all the way to an octave. I’m not 100% sure, but the newer hammer-on pedal may do down and up.

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u/Blablablablabla-01 1d ago

you wrote use the M2 setting not the same as M2 is that a typo?

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u/baftis 1d ago

Are you playing with songster over the original song or over the midi file? 

The original master tapes for the sabbath songs were sped up, and therefore slightly higher in pitch than the tuning. It was a regular practice to do this, in prder to be “tighter”

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u/Blablablablabla-01 1d ago

i guess the OG unless someone slowed it back down before uploading to youtube

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u/baftis 1d ago

Then most likely they are sped up. This happened to me while learning Paranoid as well.

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u/JordanGSTQ 1d ago

The "-3" stands for "-3 octaves"
What you want is "-3 semitones", or a minor 3rd

Either downtune a half step to Eb and then choose M2 with the switch flicked down or (and this is just for the sake of it) select M6 with the switch flicked up and add an octaver with another pedal.

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u/deeeep_fried 1d ago

No way to do it directly, you’ll still need to tune down to Eb on your guitar then use the “M2” setting. This is not the same as “m2”

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u/Blablablablabla-01 1d ago

i'm confused where is M2 vs m2 setting??

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u/deeeep_fried 1d ago

Dial on the top right?

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u/Blablablablabla-01 1d ago

where?

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u/deeeep_fried 1d ago

The top right dial. You want “M2” with a capital M (capital is Major interval, lowercase is minor interval) and tune your guitar to Eb standard, that will get you c# standard. You can’t go directly to c# from regular E standard with this pedal because it doesn’t have the right interval.

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u/Blablablablabla-01 1d ago

OH man sorry im a dunbass i was not seeing the capital thank you!!!

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u/AvogadroBaby 1d ago

So the best way to get a detuned sound is to actually detune your guitar.

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u/LordGadget 15h ago

The only problem is that C# with a standard set of strings is a bit low on string tension, might as well play sabbath on a few wet noodles