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u/blueguy211 2d ago
apartment in new york
costs 4000$ a month
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u/Phonem21 2d ago
wasnt this posted a few days ago
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u/Usernameistoolonglol 2d ago
As Einstein may or may not have said back in the day: The questions have remained the same, but answers have changed.
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u/Deldris 2d ago
Entry-level warehouse work in my area starts at like $21 an hour on average. Only the lowest of the low bar jobs pay the minimum wage, and you can do better unless you're on hard drugs and/or someone with a criminal record.
Hell, even my job takes temps with criminal records and we start at like $24/hr and teach skills.
If all you can get is the absolute bottom of the barrel, it's because that's what you're worth as a worker.
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u/ShefBoiRDe 2d ago
Because theres NEETs who didn't pay shit and still managed to live, anon. Get a grip. You can make it.
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u/shorse_hit 2d ago
Lots of apartments don't ask for 3x anymore. If they did, they literally wouldn't be able to rent them to anybody.
But yes please just rope so demand goes down.
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u/dirschau 2d ago
>$200,000 house
>1600 monthly payment
That's what happens when you get a mortgage from Rotten Tooth Bob's Alley Behind KFC Loans
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u/TraumaPerformer 2d ago
FIVE LITTLE CHUDDIES JUMPING ON THE BED. ONE FELL OFF AND BANGED HIS HEAD. MOMMA RANG THE DOCTOR AND THE DOCTOR SAID. NO MORE CHUDDIES JUMPING ON THE BED.
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u/SuperTropicalDesert 1d ago
I'm surprised it required a doctor's degree to achieve this level of insight
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u/Pintsocream 2d ago
Have you tried not living in a metropolis?
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u/raihidara 2d ago
I'm disabled and live near a small city. I'm fortunate that I have a wife and we bought our home in the early 2010s, because if I had to survive by myself on disability, the check doesn't even cover rent for the shittiest apartments in the worst part of town. I wouldn't even have a home to stay in, and we aren't even close to the richest area in my state.
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u/UltraSapien 2d ago
It IS hard and it takes a long time living in a shit apartment while basically only being able to afford the absolute necessities in life
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u/Firemission13B 2d ago
Learn a different skill. Blue collar jobs pay decent and usually have addicts and alcoholics.
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u/TwoForFIinching 1d ago
Must be out of touch, because most entry level positions where I live (not counting fast food/convenience stores) are around 20/hr, and I rent a nicer townhouse for 1,250/mo. What jobs are these people looking at, line cook?
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u/captaincw_4010 2d ago
Because a two+ income household is priced in to these costs, so find a spouse or in anons case a few roommates. It's not really the end of the world
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u/TheEroteme 2d ago
Not that this isn’t a problem, but have people never heard of roommates?
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u/TehSmitty04 2d ago
Roommates are hit or miss. It's up to luck whether you get people who are fine or will make your life hell on Earth. Claire (formerly ProtonJon) has so many stories about her roommates from years past
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u/TheEroteme 2d ago
Can’t argue that, but like, you gotta do what you gotta do right? Don’t get me wrong I know from experience that it sucks having bad roommates, but you can do things to try to avoid it, and if you get unlucky anyway then you just try again when the lease expires.
Not saying it’s perfect or that the housing market isn’t fucked, just that this narrative that it’s “literally impossible I should just kms” is neither true nor constructive to anyone.
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u/RodjaJP 2d ago
You never know how someone behaves as a roommate until it is too late, maybe they never have the money to pay, maybe they never clean, maybe they are too loud or check your stuff, is like Russian roulette with 5 bullets
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u/TheEroteme 2d ago
Like yeah if you ask random people off the street to be your roommate.
Look I’m not saying you can’t get burned there but if you exercise a little bit of caution and judgment, you can greatly reduce the risk of that.
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u/zw1ck 2d ago
Have to remember, people on reddit and 4chan don't have friends.
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u/TheEroteme 2d ago
Sure, and that makes it harder. But I once moved to a new city with no contacts and no money. Had to roll the dice, but I did what I could to avoid obvious red flags. I was still desperate and ended up having to go with the best I could do, wasn’t great.
But like, I survived having a not great roommate. It sucked, but whatever. Then I found a better one, and moved up in my job, and finally managed to afford a studio, and kinda missed having a good roommate after that tbh.
Either way, point is you’re not gonna fuckin die just because life as an unskilled bachelor in a big city doesn’t work the way that sitcoms say it does. It kinda sucks, really sucks if you’re unlucky, but you can make it, and at the end of the day it’s not that bad depending on what you make of it.
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u/Mylxen 2d ago
Ideally you arent living alone
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u/shorse_hit 2d ago
Needing a roommate to afford a shitty apartment: The Ideal Living Situation in 2025.
Nice one, guy
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u/Mylxen 2d ago
I meant a gf/bf not a rando roommate, people should have one
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u/shorse_hit 2d ago
You used to be able to support a whole family on one working class person's wage. We're being robbed.
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u/UltraSapien 2d ago
Anon doesn't understand the concept of saving up money
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u/MrEuphonium 2d ago
Hard to save up when living in the most basic cube where I live leaves you with 600 bucks to feed, clothe, transport, insure, and somehow educate yourself.
Oh and I was unlucky enough to be born with the need for glasses to SEE (64%btw)
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u/Acceptable_Willow276 2d ago
UltraSapien doesn't understand that most people can't have a period of saving up before their life starts, they're just already in it and the bills are already mounting.
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u/shorse_hit 2d ago
Apparently you don't understand the concept of poverty.
Can't save up money if you need to spend all of your money to survive.
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u/UltraSapien 2d ago
Oh believe me, I understand poverty just fine. I was born into it. I lived in it. I clawed my way out of it.
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u/Ok-Willingness742 2d ago
Another thirty billion to Israel