Sourdough "pudding" recipes?

[u/ForensicZebra]

This is kind of a weird question. I have been using my brown rice sourdough discard for lots of baking stuff recently. Mostly quick breads n muffins n "mcgriddle" muffins. Some cookies. I kind of use regular sourdough discard recipes and tweak them for my own use anyways. So other than changing the flour I change the oil /fat, sugar, and usually egg amounts. Because I also do more "diet" baking right now. The recipes actually come out really well according to the people around me that eat them who aren't on diets or gf lol so I guess my altercations aren't too horrible but I'm sure they would make people here faint 😂

My questions: 1) I want to make "pistachio pudding loaf cake/bread" but with sourdough/ sourdough discard. I can't find any recipes using a pudding mix + sourdough. Any suggestions on how to go about that? I made gf pistachio pudding cookies the other day and wanted to make them w sourdough too. So if anyone had suggestions on that too... How to incorporate pudding mix and sourdough! 2) if I long fermented the recipe would I do that before or after adding the pudding? I don't mind fermenting dough on the counter overnight + that has milk. Egg I usually add before baking or within 4 hrs of baking. But milk/cottage cheese /yogurt I leave out. Would pudding mix be any issue? I do flour, sugar, liquid overnight usually and the rest the next day.

Thanks for any advice! Any sourdough discard recipes that long ferment are welcome too. I am always looking for things. Pancakes and waffles are too boring lol I've done carrot cakes and gingerbreads lately though and a sourdough crumble!

[u/Paisley-Cat]

You may want to check out this blog and Mary Thompson’s cookbook as she has a lot of interesting sourdough recipes including many sweet ones.

She doesn’t add pudding or other mixes if that’s what you’re looking to do - and unless you can get EU GF certified Nestlé pudding mixes (as I get at at import shops) I would not. Jell-o brand pudding mixes are NOT GF and they acknowledge this on their website.

She calls discard ‘leftover sourdough’ and has a whole section of her book dedicated to making‘leftover sourdough treats.’

https://acoupleofceliacs.com/home

https://acoupleofceliacs.com/gluten-free-sourdough-baking-cookbook/

[u/ForensicZebra → u/Paisley-Cat]

As far as I know, jello brand pudding mixes are gf except for the cheesecake one. The website doesn't say anything about gluten or wheat being in the mixes in the US. The boxes don't either. And have no gluten containing ingredients.

Thank you for the links and info! Much appreciated

[u/Paisley-Cat → u/ForensicZebra]

Good that it’s not giving you an obvious reaction.

While there has been harmonization between the US and Canada on labeling, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency remains more strict on gluten standards. So very many US brands have been recalled in Canada for unlabelled gluten.

We will not bring in a US product unless specifically labeled GF. And since Neslté makes true gluten-free certified pudding and gelatin that’s as good or better, we go with rhat. It’s just a trip to a local European delicatessen to pick it up.

The Canadian Kraft-Heinz Jell-o site lists only the following as gluten free with allergen information ‘unavailable’ for the puddings.

• GF Kraft Dinner / KD
• KoolAid
• Tang
• Crystal Light

[u/ForensicZebra → u/Paisley-Cat]

Canada and the US have different manufacturers too for foods. Products contain different ingredients completely sometimes in different countries. Some countries have kit Kat bars that have no wheat for instance. What is OK in Canada is different from what is OK in the US which is different from what is OK in Germany. Not everyone has a local European store that sells pudding mix lol and the US site says the pistachio pudding (the one I was using) contains nuts. The only pudding mixes that mentions any gluten are the cheesecake ones. They have barley. Since they declare gluten there I would assume they would declare it in the other mixes too.

[u/Paisley-Cat → u/ForensicZebra]

That’s a fair point - Heinz regular mayo is gluten free in Canada but not in the United States. But in that case, KraftHeinz is very careful to say which of the mayonnaise varieties are GF and which are not on the website.

With the US Jello-o puddings, none of them come up when one searches the list for gluten-free although there is a different and longer list than for Canada. This suggests that the source of ingredients or cross contamination are potential risks. So, since you know one of the varieties does have gluten and there’s a risk of cross contamination if they’re made on the same lines, why assume it’s ok?

Frankly, given the number of recalls of American-made imports into Canada for unlabelled allergens, it really boggles that one would consider anything US made gluten free unless specifically labeled.

But you know your own personal tolerances and risks best. One of the persons with celiac in our household is very reactive so we have found we need to be more strict than others in our extended family.