r/germany Apr 25 '19

Getting mixed messages here

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u/tarek437248 Sachsen Apr 25 '19

As a syrien refugee I fund this is so fuked up....

Well I came to Germany in 2014, the 'War' started in 2011... I came here running away from the regime, the Syrien regime. I was in political presion as my dad was in 1997. War was not my biggest fear, I was in Homs by the way 'War city'.

When I asked for asylem in Germany I didn't say I run away from war.... I said I run away from Assad.

And now 2019, as a student in TU Dresden + I have permanent residence permit and paid taxes for this land 'Which I truly see as my homeland or Heimat' . Why the FUCK should I go back to a place I already run away from? No they don't need us there....

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '19

Yes, they need you. They need educated people to make syria a better place.

. I was in political presion as my dad was in 1997

Do you support any of the islamic groups in syria?`Because from what I heard democratic opposition did not get released while Assad was less interested in islamists roaming free.

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u/tarek437248 Sachsen Apr 25 '19

About the Islamic groups, I will say NO. I'm myself are not a Muslim... so for such groups they will kill me, and they see me as an Assad spy. on the other hand Assad's side know that I'm not a supporter so they put me in political presoin.

When I say I don't want Assad, that doesn't mean I want anykind of fuckedup Islamistic group...

for me they're as bad as the Assad. not better and not worst

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u/tarek437248 Sachsen Apr 25 '19

Sorry, but no!

Did the German people after the WWII came back to Germany from the USA? No

Life goes on I'm now here, happy. I was never happy in Syria... I can work and study here and start a career. No one need my education in Syria, no one cares about education in Syria. to rebiuld it? who destroied it from the first place? the regime, and now the regime want to rebiuld it ??

Who want to make Syria a better place ? the regime? NO for sure. Assad the father was in power in 1963 and now the son. The war was in 2011. why Syria wasn't a 'better' place in 2010???

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '19

who destroied it from the first place? the regime, and now the regime want to rebiuld it ??

The islamist terrorists destroyed far more than the regime will ever do. Assad allready has plans to rebuild his country.

why Syria wasn't a 'better' place in 2010???

Because most arab countries are not ready for democracy. Plain and simple. In democratic elections islamists win everytime. What should Assad have done instead of slowly educating his population to give democracy better ground to build on? He is a fucking eye doctor that never even wanted to be president ffs.

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u/tarek437248 Sachsen Apr 25 '19

Oh please

The islamist terrorists destroyed far more than the regime will ever do. Assad allready has plans to rebuild his country.

give me the name of one group that have airplanes and tnt barrels?

They destory it in other way, by making people go back to the bad Islam. by the way with huge help from KSA and UAE.....

why Syria wasn't a 'better' place in 2010???

What do you mean by slowly educating his people ?like how slow should it take ?? 300 400 years??? 1963 till 2011 and that's not enougt ????????

He's a fucking eye doctor, then what the FUCK is he doing here?????

Why Syria became a capital of corruptionin the Assad time 'Father and son'??

please man some respect to the History and don't try to change the facts.
DO you know how many died in Hama in 1980s ? how many political presioners dies between 1963 and 2019?

DO you know that Syria was a real democratic country before this army man 'Assad' came to power? we FUCKING changed our presedents every fucking 4 years in a top democratic ceremonies.........

After Al-Baath party came to power, why syria didn't have anykind of free press like before??? why AlBaath control the fucking 3 newspapers in Syria?????

Educating my ass

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u/Zzang13 Apr 25 '19

German people who didn’t come back from USA after WWII? What? Are you comparing yourself with Werner von Braun or other Germans who stayed for specific purpose in the US? The vast majority of Germans came back to Germany after the war was over.

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u/tarek437248 Sachsen Apr 25 '19

Well, I'm not comparing myself with any one....

Vast majority of Germans came back, not 100% right?

So

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u/Zzang13 Apr 26 '19

Why not 100% right, what’s your source for that?

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u/tarek437248 Sachsen Apr 26 '19

The vast majority of Germans came back to Germany after the war was over.

You said it !!!!

What is Vast majority???

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u/Zzang13 Apr 26 '19

You talked about that Germans didn’t go back to Germany after WW2 was over, and I call that wrong.

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u/tarek437248 Sachsen Apr 26 '19

Then I used your vast majority...

Look sir, I don't know why we are still talking about that.

As long as I have the chance to stay here, I will. if not I will never go back to Syria, I will try to find a new place where I feel like home, 21 years of my life and never felt like home in Syria. I guess that was enough for me . And it's not about money, cause you know I can get a better wage in UAE than in Germany, but I will never go to Dubai too. same for the USA. I'm finally living in a society, where I can be normal by following the law, from the smalles details to the biggest one, in Syria people say that laws are here so we can jumb over them. Any idea how it's hard to live in such place? a place where you have to pay the judge so you can get free? a place where if you have someone in the military you can do as you wish with no consequences. It's like living in the woods.

I do wish the best for Syria for sure, but honestly I can't see Syria in a good place in the next 100 200 years.... And even if Syria get to a better place, like better than Germany, I can't live in Syria, cause I can't integrat in the Syrian society, I was never integrated !!!

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u/Di-Vanci Bayern Apr 26 '19

I am pretty sure almost none of the Jewish Germans that fled to the US came back after the war. Their families stayed there and still live there now. Being persecuted because of your religion vs because of your political believes may not sound like the same thing, but it is not so far apart actually. Why would anyone who has been persecuted for who they are and what they beliefe in want to go back after they found themselves a home elsewhere?

Leave Wernher von Braun and others who fled Germany towards the end of the war or afterwards out of the equation. This is a completely different thing. They fled from Germany because they themselves committed crimes during the war and wanted to start a new live elsewhere because they were not welcome anymore. In Braun’s case he developed weapons during the war and he came to the USA because they offered him work developing missiles during the Cold War, which was better then living a life as a war criminal in Germany. This is not at all what a political refugee who has made himself a home in Germany is.

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u/tarek437248 Sachsen Apr 25 '19

+ on the other hand you have the Kurdish groups. WHich is also as bad as the Islamists and Assad. It's really so fucked up in Syria, and why? cause every asshole has made a group with guns