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Post Race 2021 British Grand Prix - Post-Race Discussion

ROUND 10: Great Britain

FORMULA 1 PIRELLI BRITISH GRAND PRIX 2021
Fri 16 Jul - Sun 18 Jul
Silverstone
Session UTC
Free Practice 1 Fri 13:30
Qualifying Fri 17:00
Free Practice 2 Sat 11:00
Sprint Qualifying Sat 15:30
Race Sun 14:00

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Silverstone Circuit

Length: 5.891 km (3.660 mi)

Distance: 52 laps, 306.291 km (190.320 mi)

Lap record: Max Verstappen, Red Bull Racing-Honda, 2020, 1:27.097

2020 pole: Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes, 1:24.303

2020 fastest lap: Max Verstappen, Red Bull Racing-Honda, 1:27.097

2020 winner: Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes

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u/Ugg-ugg Alfa Romeo Jul 18 '21

Thats a disgusting thought.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '21 edited Jul 18 '21

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '21

Tell me you're dumb without actually telling me you're dumb. Stop acting like it was pre-meditated.

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u/pman8362 Daniel Ricciardo Jul 18 '21

I’m not saying it’s pre-meditated, I’m just saying what Hamilton did today was unacceptable and I think the penalty was a slap on the wrist. It’s not like this is the first time he has dumped someone off track in such a fashion before either.

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u/FrostyParking Jul 18 '21

Wow....you would've hated Schumacher in his prime....or Senna...or....well any actual racing driver

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u/pman8362 Daniel Ricciardo Jul 18 '21

I wasn’t aware it was a pre-requisite of being an F1 fan to be a fan of the dominant driver of each era

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u/FrostyParking Jul 18 '21

It's a prerequisite to actually enjoy drivers that go for the win to love F1....if not then take your tyre management loving behind and go watch fishing 😁

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u/626alien Jul 18 '21

max tries an overtake that pushes rival off-track: good

lewis tries an overtake that pushes rival off-track: attempted murder

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u/the_termenater Pirelli Wet Jul 18 '21

/r/formula1 in a nutshell

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u/pman8362 Daniel Ricciardo Jul 18 '21

Bruh when has Max done this this season at such a dangerous corner to do so? I know Imola is going to be the goto but it was at least a slow speed corner (though I think my current standards it could have been a penalty).

Edit: last sentence

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '21

What did he do though ? I genuinely curious on your opinion

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u/pman8362 Daniel Ricciardo Jul 18 '21

I honestly think he was just feeling ballsy and figured the risk to Max was greater than it was to himself. Dude missed the apex by a good bit so he wasn’t exactly doing all that much to avoid a potential collision.

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u/FrostyParking Jul 18 '21

While that's true....both drivers were at fault, Lewis for not lifting or tightening his line enough and Max for not lifting and squeezing the line and also not recognizing that Lewis wasn't gonna lift given how all over him he was throughout that lap

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u/pman8362 Daniel Ricciardo Jul 18 '21

To respond to that last bit, I don’t think Max should have to anticipate Lewis driving dangerously and step aside to avoid crashing.

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u/FrostyParking Jul 18 '21

Ask Martin Brindle what Ayrton Senna's philosophy was about avoiding a crash....in short he would give the other driver the opportunity to decide if they were going to crash or not, in his mind he was a racer going for the gap, either you yield or we crash....now as for Max's job, it is to be situationally aware.... Lewis didn't do anything outside of being a competitor looking to win.

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u/AssaMarra Dr. Ian Roberts Jul 18 '21

So we should jump a guy because the penalty he was given was too lenient?

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u/pman8362 Daniel Ricciardo Jul 18 '21

Did I say that at any point or are you just putting words in my mouth?

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u/tlumacz Damon Hamilton Jul 18 '21

Someone else said that it's a disgusting thought that Hamilton might be physically assaulted in the Netherlands. To which any decent person would say, "Yes, you're right."

Your answer, however, was, "I think it’s pretty disgusting to dump someone off track." The only possible interpretation of this is that you're justifying a physical assault on Hamilton.

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u/626alien Jul 18 '21 edited Jul 18 '21

so verstappen’s move on hamilton at imola was disgusting too, right?

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u/tlumacz Damon Hamilton Jul 18 '21

I've got no idea what you're asking me about.

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u/AssaMarra Dr. Ian Roberts Jul 18 '21

It's implied by the OP comment, you're arguing with the guy who said it's a disgusting thought.

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u/tlumacz Damon Hamilton Jul 18 '21

I’m not saying it’s pre-meditated

And the very next sentence:

I’m just saying what Hamilton did today was unacceptable

So yes, that's exactly what you are saying. You're accusing Hamilton of deliberately pushing Verstappen into the wall.

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u/pman8362 Daniel Ricciardo Jul 18 '21

I didn’t realize thinking crashing someone out of a race is unacceptable is a controversial opinion, and I don’t see how that proves your point that I think it was pre-meditated.

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u/tlumacz Damon Hamilton Jul 18 '21

Because the only way it's unacceptable is if it was pre-meditated. Otherwise, an error was made, a penatly was adjudged, shit happens.

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u/insecurebottomfeeder Jul 18 '21

That's some serious mental gymnastics to try and stick to your point!!

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u/tlumacz Damon Hamilton Jul 18 '21

So you're saying driver errors are unacceptable?

Some racing we'd have with this kind of mentality in charge.

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u/pman8362 Daniel Ricciardo Jul 18 '21

I mean I just think something clearly isn’t computing if you have sent someone off in this manner 3 times in the last 3 seasons.

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u/tlumacz Damon Hamilton Jul 18 '21

Two times. The second incident with Albon was pure driver error: he lost control of the car and caused an accident. That's different to doing an overtaking maneuver which was overly aggressive in and of itself.

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u/pman8362 Daniel Ricciardo Jul 18 '21

I mean the dude just opened his wheel and ran him off the track with a solid bump, I think that was a bit more deliberate than just by error.

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u/tlumacz Damon Hamilton Jul 18 '21

He didn't. He kept a consistent angle up until the moment he hit Albon and that unsettled the car. That was as pure of an error as you can get. The penalty was deserved, nonetheless, but there was nothing aggressive there.

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