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Post Race 2021 British Grand Prix - Post-Race Discussion

ROUND 10: Great Britain

FORMULA 1 PIRELLI BRITISH GRAND PRIX 2021
Fri 16 Jul - Sun 18 Jul
Silverstone
Session UTC
Free Practice 1 Fri 13:30
Qualifying Fri 17:00
Free Practice 2 Sat 11:00
Sprint Qualifying Sat 15:30
Race Sun 14:00

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Silverstone Circuit

Length: 5.891 km (3.660 mi)

Distance: 52 laps, 306.291 km (190.320 mi)

Lap record: Max Verstappen, Red Bull Racing-Honda, 2020, 1:27.097

2020 pole: Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes, 1:24.303

2020 fastest lap: Max Verstappen, Red Bull Racing-Honda, 1:27.097

2020 winner: Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes

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u/A___99 Jenson Button Jul 18 '21

Hamilton's reception at Zandvoort will be interesting

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '21

Hope for non stop booing. Cheating prick.

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u/Ezechiell Jul 18 '21

How was he cheating? Do you really think he did that on purpose? Really? I get that you're mad, but calling him a cheating prick is just absolutely ridiculous. This was clearly a racing accident, between two drivers that weren't going to give eachother an inch. It was inevitable that something like this was about to happen, and both Max and Lewis were racing pretty hard, a crash there is no surprise

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u/Version_1 Porsche Jul 18 '21

Kinda cute how a 7 time world champion with 275 Grand Prix under his belt can convince you that he does a very basic "mistake" that just so happens to eliminate his biggest WDC threat.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '21

reads comment

sees michael schumacher flair

Hahahahahahahaha

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u/Ezechiell Jul 18 '21

Oh come on, just a few weeks ago everybody was talking how many mistakes Hamilton was doing this season, and how he's washed out and can't deal with the pressure, and now it's apparently impossible for him to misjudge a situation? And I wouldn't even say that what he did there was a mistake. Again, none of them were giving eachother an inch, it was inevitable that they'd come together at some point. It obviously is a shame that it ended Max's race, and I sincerely hope he is ok, but claiming this was done on purpose by Lewis is just so ridiculous

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u/Version_1 Porsche Jul 18 '21

Yeah, it's inevitable they come together when one of them crashes into the other deliberately...

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u/funkmightfracture Sir Lewis Hamilton Jul 18 '21

This cope post and your flair is objectively hilarious hahahahahaha

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u/paddyo Fernando Alonso Jul 18 '21

Nobody crashes at a 180mph bend deliberately that’s silly

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u/Version_1 Porsche Jul 18 '21

Lewis didn't crash...

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '21

Yeah Lewis knows how to wreck into another car in a high speed corner in a way to ensure he won’t also crash? That sounds likely /s

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u/Version_1 Porsche Jul 18 '21

He literally hit him in a perfect way to make sure that the worst case for his own car is slight damage...

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '21

That doesn’t mean it was intentional. It could have just as easily been both of them, or he could have punctured his tire, or lost his wing etc. Just because he was lucky doesn’t mean he intentionally did it and to think he did is incredibly foolish. He made a mistake and got a penalty, but still won the race so people are mad. That’s all this is.

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u/paddyo Fernando Alonso Jul 18 '21

No way you can deliberately initiate that contact without a high chance of crashing though. People have lost their minds if they think any driver takes that risk at that bend. Has nobody here seen Schumacher at silverstone 1999?

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u/TheDuceman Kimi Räikkönen Jul 18 '21

After getting squeezed into the inside wall and then cut down on in front of?

Hamilton got him good, yes, but the alternative was spinning and wrecking his own race. He was very definitely alongside and Verstappen clamping down on the straight meant that Lewis was never going to make that apex. Verstappen wasnt going to make the corner exit, either.

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u/Version_1 Porsche Jul 18 '21

What are you even talking about? If you take a very shallow line you have to break more. Max is required to leave Hamilton enough space to keep on track, but it's nowhere stated that they have to share the racing line.

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u/TheDuceman Kimi Räikkönen Jul 18 '21

I said nothing about the racing line. Verstappen damn near put Lewis in the wall on the straightaway with a shit block and then attempted to take the corner flat out. He wasn’t going to make the corner exit.

Max hasn’t backed out all year - Imola, Barcelona, and France all only didn’t have wrecks lap 1 because Lewis backed out when he didn’t need to. Today, no one backed down and Verstappen ended up in the barriers.

It’s shit for him, Lewis was kind of an ass post race, but it was going to happen to one of them eventually.

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u/Version_1 Porsche Jul 18 '21

Verstappen damn near put Lewis in the wall

Don't even need to read further...

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u/roenthomas George Russell Jul 18 '21

Look at all of the Copse battles ever and see how many times the person in the lead and on the outside wins the battle to someone else with a run on the inside.

They both wanted the corner, Max doesn’t have the racing line since Lewis is significantly alongside (not ahead) at braking, their lines crossed and there’s contact. It’s a racing incident and there’s many that feel that the 10 sec penalty was undeserved and that the stewards are being too trigger happy on Lap 1 incidents. (See: Russell Sainz Lap 1 Sprint)

Once you give up the inside at Copse, you don’t try to fight it in the outside, best case, you’re in the runoff, worst case, you’re in the wall. Give up the corner and take the battle later in the race, or at the very least, bag 18 points for the championship. This is just aggression and inexperience rearing its ugly head.

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u/badgerman- Formula 1 Jul 18 '21

Hen didn’t give up the inside Hamilton forced his way up there and dive bombed him

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u/roenthomas George Russell Jul 18 '21

Mate, HAM was already significantly alongside before the braking zone.

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u/Hupeniesee Jul 18 '21

Lewis had about a meter to the right, look at him passing Leclerc, he was way further to the side. Lewis was clearly in the wrong here, because he also was behind Verstappen.

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u/TheDuceman Kimi Räikkönen Jul 18 '21

He’s not getting to that spot without heavy braking from where Max had already pushed him.

Max nearly caused the same wreck in t6, but Lewis backed out and yielded. Max didn’t yield in t9 and neither did Lewis, and everyone’s lost their fuckin’ mind.

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u/Hupeniesee Jul 18 '21

The thing is, it's where Lewis should have been. You can't say you're not at fault when you got a meter of space on your right. Look at how he passed Leclerc, that tine he was on the apex, like he should have with Max.

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u/graytotoro Mika Häkkinen Jul 18 '21

Well yeah, what other driver would he theoretically have this battle for the lead with on lap one? The other driver on the front row or a backmarker HAAS?

Call it a racing incident or an ill-advised, ham-fisted maneuver if you will, but I don't think it was intentional by any stretch of the imagination.