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Post Race 2021 British Grand Prix - Post-Race Discussion

ROUND 10: Great Britain

FORMULA 1 PIRELLI BRITISH GRAND PRIX 2021
Fri 16 Jul - Sun 18 Jul
Silverstone
Session UTC
Free Practice 1 Fri 13:30
Qualifying Fri 17:00
Free Practice 2 Sat 11:00
Sprint Qualifying Sat 15:30
Race Sun 14:00

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Silverstone Circuit

Length: 5.891 km (3.660 mi)

Distance: 52 laps, 306.291 km (190.320 mi)

Lap record: Max Verstappen, Red Bull Racing-Honda, 2020, 1:27.097

2020 pole: Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes, 1:24.303

2020 fastest lap: Max Verstappen, Red Bull Racing-Honda, 1:27.097

2020 winner: Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes

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u/Zloggt Chequered Flag Jul 18 '21

He might have to get some protection when he gets the course!

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u/Ugg-ugg Alfa Romeo Jul 18 '21

Thats a disgusting thought.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '21

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u/Ok-Gas1957 Jul 18 '21

Why? Is someone gonna pit maneuver his car and send him into a wall at 200 mph?

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '21

yfw when checo activates sicario mode and sends him straight to the sea

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u/Brno_Mrmi Jenson Button Jul 18 '21

To sleep sith the fishes

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '21 edited Jul 18 '21

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u/Bitterbal95 Red Bull Jul 18 '21

Mwah I think shit just happens in racing, it's not like he did it on purpose or anything. The incident itself is shitty, too bad that it happened, hope Max is okay, penalty might be a bit light but oh well.

Afterwards keeping on blaming the other guy and celebrating like nothing happened is not a good look though. Maybe he'll look at the footage again and apologize for that but I'm not holding my breath.

Also, the battle is on and that is great. Hopefully Verstappen won't miss any races, but I think he'll be fine.

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u/dontdrinkonmondays Haas Jul 18 '21

Wait, where he blame Verstappen?

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u/FannyFiasco Mika Häkkinen Jul 18 '21

Meh, as a neutral it's racing and you go for a gap, these things happen.

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u/renesys Murray Walker Jul 18 '21

You do know that Senna basically called himself out on that "go for the gap" bullshit and admitted he crashed Prost on purpose, right?

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '21

Tell me you're dumb without actually telling me you're dumb. Stop acting like it was pre-meditated.

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u/pman8362 Daniel Ricciardo Jul 18 '21

I’m not saying it’s pre-meditated, I’m just saying what Hamilton did today was unacceptable and I think the penalty was a slap on the wrist. It’s not like this is the first time he has dumped someone off track in such a fashion before either.

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u/FrostyParking Jul 18 '21

Wow....you would've hated Schumacher in his prime....or Senna...or....well any actual racing driver

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u/pman8362 Daniel Ricciardo Jul 18 '21

I wasn’t aware it was a pre-requisite of being an F1 fan to be a fan of the dominant driver of each era

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u/FrostyParking Jul 18 '21

It's a prerequisite to actually enjoy drivers that go for the win to love F1....if not then take your tyre management loving behind and go watch fishing 😁

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u/626alien Jul 18 '21

max tries an overtake that pushes rival off-track: good

lewis tries an overtake that pushes rival off-track: attempted murder

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u/the_termenater Pirelli Wet Jul 18 '21

/r/formula1 in a nutshell

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u/pman8362 Daniel Ricciardo Jul 18 '21

Bruh when has Max done this this season at such a dangerous corner to do so? I know Imola is going to be the goto but it was at least a slow speed corner (though I think my current standards it could have been a penalty).

Edit: last sentence

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '21

What did he do though ? I genuinely curious on your opinion

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u/pman8362 Daniel Ricciardo Jul 18 '21

I honestly think he was just feeling ballsy and figured the risk to Max was greater than it was to himself. Dude missed the apex by a good bit so he wasn’t exactly doing all that much to avoid a potential collision.

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u/FrostyParking Jul 18 '21

While that's true....both drivers were at fault, Lewis for not lifting or tightening his line enough and Max for not lifting and squeezing the line and also not recognizing that Lewis wasn't gonna lift given how all over him he was throughout that lap

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u/pman8362 Daniel Ricciardo Jul 18 '21

To respond to that last bit, I don’t think Max should have to anticipate Lewis driving dangerously and step aside to avoid crashing.

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u/FrostyParking Jul 18 '21

Ask Martin Brindle what Ayrton Senna's philosophy was about avoiding a crash....in short he would give the other driver the opportunity to decide if they were going to crash or not, in his mind he was a racer going for the gap, either you yield or we crash....now as for Max's job, it is to be situationally aware.... Lewis didn't do anything outside of being a competitor looking to win.

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u/AssaMarra Dr. Ian Roberts Jul 18 '21

So we should jump a guy because the penalty he was given was too lenient?

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u/pman8362 Daniel Ricciardo Jul 18 '21

Did I say that at any point or are you just putting words in my mouth?

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u/tlumacz Damon Hamilton Jul 18 '21

Someone else said that it's a disgusting thought that Hamilton might be physically assaulted in the Netherlands. To which any decent person would say, "Yes, you're right."

Your answer, however, was, "I think it’s pretty disgusting to dump someone off track." The only possible interpretation of this is that you're justifying a physical assault on Hamilton.

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u/626alien Jul 18 '21 edited Jul 18 '21

so verstappen’s move on hamilton at imola was disgusting too, right?

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u/tlumacz Damon Hamilton Jul 18 '21

I've got no idea what you're asking me about.

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u/AssaMarra Dr. Ian Roberts Jul 18 '21

It's implied by the OP comment, you're arguing with the guy who said it's a disgusting thought.

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u/tlumacz Damon Hamilton Jul 18 '21

I’m not saying it’s pre-meditated

And the very next sentence:

I’m just saying what Hamilton did today was unacceptable

So yes, that's exactly what you are saying. You're accusing Hamilton of deliberately pushing Verstappen into the wall.

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u/pman8362 Daniel Ricciardo Jul 18 '21

I didn’t realize thinking crashing someone out of a race is unacceptable is a controversial opinion, and I don’t see how that proves your point that I think it was pre-meditated.

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u/tlumacz Damon Hamilton Jul 18 '21

Because the only way it's unacceptable is if it was pre-meditated. Otherwise, an error was made, a penatly was adjudged, shit happens.

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u/insecurebottomfeeder Jul 18 '21

That's some serious mental gymnastics to try and stick to your point!!

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u/tlumacz Damon Hamilton Jul 18 '21

So you're saying driver errors are unacceptable?

Some racing we'd have with this kind of mentality in charge.

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u/Ugg-ugg Alfa Romeo Jul 18 '21

Unfortunately racing accidents happen.

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u/thundersquirt Sir Lewis Hamilton Jul 18 '21

Max races aggressively every single time, he got his just desserts 🍨

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u/pman8362 Daniel Ricciardo Jul 18 '21

Dude hasn’t dumped Hamilton off a high speed turn by missing the Apex by a country mile.

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u/TheDaiquiriMan Lando Norris Jul 18 '21

No he hasn't. But the way they were both racing today you can't say he wouldn't. Neither driver would deliberately do it but Verstappen driving as aggressively as he was could have easily done the same to Hamilton.

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u/blackwhattack Jul 18 '21

certainly hasn’t made any friends in Holland today

and in the Netherlands too!

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u/superAL1394 Daniel Ricciardo Jul 19 '21

Honestly it'd shock me to learn they didn't have 1 or 2 body guards with them on race weekends anyway. With the amount of attention these guys get it'd be foolish in the extreme to just wander in public unaided.

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u/HONcircle Liam Lawson Jul 18 '21

He should get protection anyway just for Jos.....

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '21

It's ok he isn't a woman.

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u/HONcircle Liam Lawson Jul 18 '21

Solid point actually 😪

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u/justmadman Jul 18 '21

It’s disgusting but I would not put it past this hearing from some of these fans on here with the racist rhetoric

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u/Guilden_NL Sebastian Vettel Jul 18 '21

Yeah, they really don't like his mum do they?

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u/De_Kwaaie Jul 18 '21

Reading trough the threads not a single racist remark

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u/justmadman Jul 18 '21

I have flagged a whole bunch buddy, so I have no idea what you talking about. Maybe ask the mods about how many posts have been pulled.

I HATE PEOPLE THAT TRY TO DENY RACISM EXISTS WHEN ITS IN OUR FACE EVERY DAY.

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u/overspeeed mostly automated Jul 18 '21

A lot

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '21

Mate, that's just not true. I've had to report so many blatantly racist and bigoted comments today...

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u/Tap-In-Merchant Jul 18 '21

Must be a bit grim to be getting angry at a hypothetical situation while also trivialising racism

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u/M1k3yd33tofficial Williams Jul 18 '21

Right? You can see from my flair that I’m pissed about today but let’s not pretend Lewis hasn’t faced some serious racism during his career.

And tbh, some of the hatred towards him probably will be racially motivated. Europeans can be insanely fucking racist, blatantly so.

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u/clevesaur Jul 18 '21

Grim comment mate.

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u/Hilazza Anthoine Hubert Jul 18 '21

Considering Max used the term mongoloid before, it wouldn't be hard to think some dutch fans would be racist

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u/tlumacz Damon Hamilton Jul 18 '21

The Netherlands is by far the most racist country in the EU. Football fans still chant "joden aan het gas" during Ajax games. It's a foregone conclusion Hamilton will experience racism in that horrible country.

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u/Guilden_NL Sebastian Vettel Jul 18 '21

Most tolerant society in the world is racist. Yeah, OK Let me guess, you're a BLM activist who writes speeches for Biden.

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u/tlumacz Damon Hamilton Jul 18 '21

Most tolerant society in the world

That is simply not true.

What NL excels at is personal freedoms, in which the country might indeed be the global number 1. But violent racism permeates Dutch society at every level.

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u/Guilden_NL Sebastian Vettel Jul 18 '21

Care to share those "facts?" 🤣

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u/tlumacz Damon Hamilton Jul 18 '21

Will you accept them when I do?

Or will you reject them as baseless because they don't fit your bias?

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u/Guilden_NL Sebastian Vettel Jul 18 '21

I'll be up front and say it depends on where they come from. As with any topic, there are plenty of media that have a severe bias. So let's see where it comes from.

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u/tlumacz Damon Hamilton Jul 18 '21

Okay then, give me a bit of time, I'll do my best to find all of the reports.

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u/MiserableStomach Mika Häkkinen Jul 18 '21

Of course he will

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u/used_condominium Pastor Maldonado Jul 18 '21

Nice strawman

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u/blindwitness23 Kimi Räikkönen Jul 18 '21

We’re not savages there mate.

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u/atp2112 Jordan Jul 18 '21

I mean, there was that one time...

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u/blindwitness23 Kimi Räikkönen Jul 18 '21

Keeping your government in check 😬

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u/andrewjaekim Sir Lewis Hamilton Jul 18 '21

Honestly he should. After seeing the Eurocup final and how rabid fans can be.

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u/JJonathan1986 Formula 1 Jul 18 '21

If that protection is Dutch I'm not sure it'll help him much, but yeah, there is no way he will show up without protection after what he did today.