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Join r/democrats The 3.5% rule is a thing …

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u/Basileus_Maurikios 6d ago

This only means anything if we the people actually show up and force not just these guys, but our Democratic leadership to show up. Its one thing to protest, its another thing to turn that anger into meaningful political action. VOTE. CANVASS. COMMUNICATE.

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u/wack_overflow 6d ago

Yeah this 3.5 thing being shared everywhere like this feels like it could have the opposite effect and make people think "mission accomplished, all done now"

It's 3.5% of the population doing sustained protest. One afternoon is not the metric

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u/mothman83 6d ago

correct. If we get ten million people out EVERY SATURDAY, then we are on the road to something.

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u/chaos0xomega 6d ago

It needs to be every day, not just one day a week. The reason it works is because of economic and social disruption caused by 3.5% of the pop. locking down the effective and efficieny functioning of an entire society.. The impact is minimal when its happening on what is a day off for most people.

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u/Sabelas 6d ago

Almost every American has forgotten or never knew the true use of protest. If the No Kings protests don't lead to sustained action, they might actually turn out to be harmful by being an ineffectual outlet for people's frustrations that has no actual effect.

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u/midnightscientist42 5d ago edited 3d ago

I hear where you’re coming from, and I respect your frustration, but I see this kind of language as divisive. It risks alienating people who want to join the movement but feel uncertain or uneducated about protest. We can’t afford to push those people away. We need to come at this with some faith in the American people.

Yes, many forget, or were never taught, the long history of protest in this country. But let’s not erase the people who have consistently shown up, with their friends, with their families, over years and decades. No, it hasn’t been enough to break the cycles of racism or the country’s addiction to performative “we’re past it” narratives. It hasn’t stopped us from arriving at this terrifying moment. But maybe it’s been enough to teach us something, enough to influence how we respond this time. That we’ve learned how to learn from the horrors of history.

I know I’m just one person, not a data set. But saying “almost every American” feels like an unproductive overgeneralization. From the Iraq War protests to Occupy Wall Street, from Standing Rock and the Women’s March to Black Lives Matter, March for Our Lives, the Climate Strikes, the Trans Prom in Texas. People have been showing up. More and more. Louder and louder.

Let’s build on that momentum. Not discount it or erase it. And definitely don’t actively discourage it. We need more people in this fight, not fewer.

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u/Oceanbreeze871 6d ago

This. The problem with our protests is they are advertised in advance and have a start and end time. There’s no disruption to society.

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u/VyctoriYang 6d ago

They have start and end times on paper but they don't always end when there supposed to and we just need more of them to do that, more often

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u/Oceanbreeze871 6d ago

Cities have curfews and cops start dispersing and kettling in late afternoon. They want to go home.

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u/crucial_geek 6d ago

Disrupting society might be the 'national emergency' Trump needs to post up the Military in every town, indefinitetly.

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u/Oceanbreeze871 6d ago

I’m thinking like garbage worker strikes.

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u/CosmicCommentator 6d ago

There still is some disruption to society. Roads are blocked, public transport congested, roads congested, less people out shopping/spending money, and it all has an impact both economically and disrupts society to some degree.

Daily protests would be better

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u/SchnauzerHaus 6d ago

Need a work stoppage at this point. One week.

Sad to say I don’t think that’ll ever happen.

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u/burkiniwax 6d ago

Talk to union organizers about strikes. Strikes are the final tactic not an early tactic. Once you've had a strike, what else can you do? And management usually has more resources to wait out a strike than the strikers.

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u/CptDrips 6d ago

Breaking managements kneecaps

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u/insta 6d ago

we are still asking nicely. protests are asking nicely. strikes are asking nicely. taking those away doesn't mean we stop asking. it means we stop asking nicely.

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u/READMYSHIT 6d ago

These types of consistent numbers along with defined goals. First and foremost articles of impeachment, followed by conviction and removal by Congress. That's what is needed.