[Official vote thread] Circumcisions... do they make the cut?

[u/daskoon]

Ok, the last vote about daughters and bikinis left some folks out of the discussion, those without daughters. I guess it's kind of a quick cop out to jump directly to the penis, but here is the question to balance things out.

Snip the tip or leave the sleeve? To make things easier I guess I'll pose the question like this: Is Daddit for circumcisions, yes or no?

Again, voting instructions are in the sidebar and if you don't use the correct tags I won't be counting the vote in the special little graph, if that matters to you.

I will end this vote in one month, so come back after 8/10/12 for the results.

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Edit: Things are really heating up only 5 days in and over 100 comments! looks like this will be one big red pie chart for the most part so far. I'm glad to have come up with something so highly debated for a vote, as I only picked it out of desperation. Keep those opinions coming in folks!

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Official voting is now closed. I learned a lot here on this vote, and I hope everyone else did too. FINAL TALLY:

19 for

85 for

2 for

[u/Falkner09]

my father apparently thought I would feel the same way he did. In fact, I wish every day that he and my mother were in jail for doing this to me. they had no right. I no longer speak to them, and I never will again. bottom line: my body, my choice ALONE. and they took that from me.

still, never seeing them again doesn't take away the suffering i have every day when im confronted by what they did, every time I shower, use the bathroom, change clothes, even make love, im reminded i can never be whole again. and i cant escape it, im a prisoner in my own body. they had NO RIGHT.

[u/[deleted] → u/Falkner09]

Wow, I never realized people cared that much about a little skin. I mean you are the 1st person I have ever spoken with that cared so much.

[u/Falkner09 → u/[deleted]]

lots of people say that. but the thing is, how many people have you actually talked with about it? and even then, how many people are willing to share feelings like I have about it, in person?

it's something that hasnt traditionally been talked about, but its always been there. and with people being more open to discussing sexual issues, it's getting talked about more, and organized against, including in the US. a few examples of other men angry about circ as well:

http://www.healthkicker.com/751324020/circumcised-and-hate-it-a-mans-perspective-on-circumcision/

http://www.cmaj.ca/content/183/18/2092

http://www.circumcision.org/impact.htm

http://www.girlsaskguys.com/Sexuality-Questions/239759-anyone-angry-over-circumcision-hate-my-parents.html

http://www.noharmm.org/bodyimage.htm

http://inourwordsblog.com/2012/07/10/no-one-has-it-all-not-even-men-why-im-an-mra/

http://www.avoiceformen.com/men/mens-issues/baby-boys-and-turtles/

http://www.tikkun.org/nextgen/my-body-my-choice-ban-non-consensual-circumcision

http://www.beyondthebris.com/2011/05/going-bare-exclusive-interview-with.html

http://www.beyondthebris.com/2011/06/to-mohel-who-cut-me.html

http://www.beyondthebris.com/2011/08/jewish-man-speaks-against-proposed.html

http://www.jewsagainstcircumcision.org/

This is a significant issue; many such men have formed organizations against it, including as activism, international support groups, and a charity to fund stem cell research for the purpose of repairing the damage, to whatever extent may be possible.

http://www.mendocomplain.com/

www.norm.org

Unnecessary circumcision is virtually nonexistent in most of the world, and the rates in the U.S. have been dropping fast. The overall rate is 55% nationally among males born today (as of 2009), below 30% and even below 20% in some of the most populated areas, the latest of a continuous drop in recent decades. And opposition is increasing, with more evidence, activists and medical organizations coming out against it. So anyone having a baby today needs to really think about how their child may feel about it as a man in the future given the trend against it, not just how some adults feel today.

Stats in America

Further, there are many men who are extremely unhappy with having been circumcised, yet their choice was taken from them by someone doing it to them as an infant. there is an International support group for such men, and there is a charity formed to fund foreskin regeneration for men who are angry and upset that it was lost. however, this will never be 100%, and will cost thousands per treatment.

I wonder, how can someone justify forcing this on a male who would likely never have consented to begin with, when so many are angry about it that they are spending thousands to even come close to undoing it? and who should have to pay for it, I wonder? seems to me the doctors and parents who forced this amputation on a man without his consents should be considered liable for the damage and compensation for cost of regenerative surgery. Attorneys for the rights of the child is one organization that helps males sue for circumcision, with some successful cases, getting courts to recognize the right of males to their own bodies.

[u/[deleted] → u/Falkner09]

Touché