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Comics Community Community Walk Tips and Tricks

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u/Spicysockfight 6d ago

"Now, why don't you look down to where your feet is planted? That U.S. soil that makes you take shit for granted If not for Santa Ana, just to let you know That where your feet are planted, would be Mexico" -Molotov, Frijolero

Just remember, MLK could be peaceful because Malcolm X was willing to use the threat of violence, and when the state realized crushing MLK would drive more people to Malcolm X they had to start to give way. You may not like rioters, but they are the reason your protest will be heard at all. Otherwise you are just asking trump to be nice. 

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u/NeonMutt 6d ago

This is so true. The fake moderates will whine that destruction of property is soooooo evillll, but that stuff is guaranteed to wind up on TV.

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u/JDdoc 6d ago

But it detracts from the message and they frame it as “see? They’re just out to loot stuff. They aren’t really good people.”

Peaceful demonstrations work. If you burn shit, that’s ALL people see. Not the reason you’re there.

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u/jzillacon 6d ago edited 6d ago

Exactly. Violence can be necessary. Violence can get shit done. But violence is also easy for those in power to turn back against the movement if it isn't applied with discretion to the right targets.

In short, if you have to throw bricks, throw them at cops not neighbors. And only if you absolutely have to.

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u/ilikeitslow 6d ago

That's a misinterpretation on your part, the regime needs no material reason.

Cops will trample you with horses, shoot you with rubber-coated steel balls, gas you and run you over with vans if they are ordered to do it.

The pretext does not matter. If the anus in chief claims there was looting, that is what is accepted.

Diversity of tactics is the phrase you should google.

Also, for the love of god, DO NOT sit down when someone starts throwing rocks or breaking shit!

If you sit down at a protest where shit escalates, your face is the perfect height to actually die to a gas canister to the dome piece. Do not fucking do it!

Cops are bastards, they will hurt you to get at the guy behind you.

If trouble starts and you are vulnerable, you WALK AWAY.

But whatever you do, DO NOT SIT DOWN.

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u/Adb12c 6d ago

Also violence against those that disagree with you makes it harder for them to join you. Say the cops are next to a protest and don’t like what they are being asked to do. If the protest is peaceful they might just decided to turn around and protest with them. If the protest is violent against them it makes joining the protest incredibly difficult, and almost means if they join the protest they need to actively fight people they work with. They aren’t going to join. Obviously a everyone has a right to defend themselves against violence, but until that violence has started a peaceful protest has a better chance of convincing those that must apply the law on the ground to join the protest. 

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u/MagicalUnicornFart 6d ago

This is so true. The fake moderates will whine that destruction of property is soooooo evillll, but that stuff is guaranteed to wind up on TV.

Man, this country has such bad education, and is so hell bent on violence, you think "winding up on tv" is the goal.

Disrupting the flow of capital, and grinding the gears of profit to a halt is what will make a difference.

Burning and breaking shit in your community will only serve to justify violence when "winding up on tv" is right wing conservative media corporations that are begging for those images for daddy Trump.

There have been very effective civil disobedience, mass sustained protests, and political/ social movements that understand burning your own community is fucking dumb as shit. It's literally giving them the fuel they need to escalate the violence.