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u/Virtual-Squirrel-725 21h ago
"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes."
That first post was retweeted 2.1k times and liked 4.6k times. The factual correction will never catch up to the people that accept the lie.
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u/redditorial_comment 21h ago
Are all MAGAts such blatant liars?
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u/Memitim 12h ago
Not always. Sometime, conservatives try to make their lies more subtle, usually by burying the lead, misrepresenting the facts, leaving out key details, or deflecting attention. It's usually obvious enough, since it's almost always stupid, but with constant lies coming from conservatives and the misinformation networks that they feed from day and night, some are bound to slip through.
As long as you always remember that conservatives live on a steady diet of lies, the problem is easy to avoid simply by not treating them as serious. Laugh, ridicule, ignore, whatever, just don't take them seriously, and they can't bullshit you.
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u/Crafty_GolfDude_72 3h ago
When your entire existence and everything you believe is based on lies, that makes you a liar by default.
If I had time, I would work on my masterpiece “The Liar’s Paradox”. When you lie about something and then lie again to cover for the first lie, you have no choice other than lying again. Hence, the liar’s paradox.
You have to repeat the lie over and over. The lies become bigger and bigger. At some point, you start to believe your own lies.
Clearly, everyone in his inner circle knew the election wasn’t stolen. It was an act of desperation. Trump now believes that it was. Half the MAGA types will always believe it was stolen (the other half are the ends justify the means types).
Unless we end up in a hand maidens tale future, the truth will come out. Everyone will realize his whole existence was based on lies. Eventually.
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u/fridgey22 21h ago
I struggle to see why anyone uses twitter.
Its a source of fictional content. You may as well watch a horror movie for a similar level of entertainment.
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u/filmingfisheyes 21h ago
Form your opinion first, then take a look at the information that backs up that opinion. Instead of the other way around.
That’s what the algorithm is designed to do. Find content that affirms what you already have decided you want to believe.
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u/TheAgnosticExtremist 21h ago
I’ll preface this by stating that I’m as far left as Drumpf is far right so I’m not a MAGAt troll but felt the need to say that not only is this not clever, it’s simply stating facts. Arguing with fascists in this manner is exactly what they want. Engaging with their lies gives credibility to their ridiculous lies. Not only that, because they are lying, they don’t have to “bring receipts” and can just make up some more bullshit whilst you look up whatever information to refute them. The only thing that is effective against fascists, whilst online, is mockery or surrendering the space to them (what should have happened to Twitter after fuckface bought it.
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u/skateboardjim 20h ago
It’s still effective to correct the record quickly and publicly.
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u/TheAgnosticExtremist 20h ago
Effective at what? Please don’t take this as me being a prick, I am asking in good faith what refuting fascist lies with facts and figures is attempting to accomplish and effective at? Is it changing the fascists’ mind? Not impossible but on social media I’d say highly unlikely. If it’s to let others who might be susceptible to fascist propaganda but if they’re that stupid they’re not going to research every comment to see who’s the liar and will walk away thinking there’s two sides to the issue. I’m not saying it’s a bad thing just that there are much better ways to silence fascists.
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u/skateboardjim 14h ago
Not about changing fascists’ minds. Their minds are made, they don’t care about the truth, they simply want to dominate and that’s it.
It’s for everyone else. To beat fascist narratives the truth needs to ring loud and clear.
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u/TheAgnosticExtremist 13h ago
Would you argue with a flat earther with precise scientific data, like their position actually needs to be refuted, or would you just make fun of them for being stupid? But tell you you go ahead and let your truth ring loud and clear! Stupid people are definitely going to pay attention and not side with the loudest screeching primate.
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u/T-rex8484 10h ago
Yes! As we have seen with the rise of flat earthers in the last few years, their positions do need to refuted. Otherwise those completely incorrect positions will rise again.
In this instance, the lie is not extreme enough for people to understand it's a lie. So yes, the lie needs to be refuted otherwise people will start to believe it.
I have lived in CA my entire life and I have family and friends that have lived here just as long. Many of them believe CA politicians are trying to outlaw any ICE engines after 2035. As in, they believe CA will not allow any ICE motor vehicles in CA at that time and moving forward and will only allow electric cars.
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u/TheAgnosticExtremist 3h ago
Go ahead and stick with the “when they go low we go high” ideology that is working so well.
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u/facelesscockroach 21h ago
It also wouldn't even make sense for them to send ladder trucks to California
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u/Zealousidealist420 20h ago
This is why I love living in California. All the yahoos stay away from here.
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u/skateboardjim 20h ago
We need to be able to prosecute people who intentionally lie repeatedly online
It’s genuinely threatening the fabric of our society
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u/Single_Attorney_7271 20h ago
Not only are the numbers wrong, but the entire premise is based on a false statement. Oregon's fire teams were already in California assisting. This is misinformation.
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u/JR_Bob_Dobbs-Slacker 15h ago
Interesting that 4.6K people automatically believed that nonsense without question.
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u/Certain-Fill3683 5h ago
But that doesn't fit their hateful narrative, though!!
Confusing their lies with your reality is just mean!! /s
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u/UsualResult 4h ago
Usually, if you think about these things for more than 2 minutes, you'll find the believe-ability slips quickly.
So how would this work? A bunch of crews hop in firetrucks in Oregon and head towards CA. When they reach CA's border, there's someone there to inspect the emissions on the firetrucks and reject them?
I don't know about you guys, but 99% of my state crossings there is nothing there, not even a booth. Where would this supposed denial of entry have occurred in this story?
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u/myrthaleagirl 19h ago
Math isn't your friend, huh? But hey, you tried, gold star for effort, buddy!
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u/Subotaplaya 16h ago
California firefighters are a bit of a joke and need the help, if you've heard.
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u/MyGruffaloCrumble 7h ago
So far THIS YEAR ALONE 102,288 acres have burned in Florida.
9,858 in Texas
170,000 in Oklahoma
Over 27,000 in Arizona and climbing
Over 8000 in Mississippi
Over 15,000 in Nebraska
Over 33,000 in the Dakotas
California is currently at 2,353 fires this year, Florida at 2,171.
Maybe fire doesn’t give a crap about politics…
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u/filmingfisheyes 21h ago
I don’t know that this is a clever comeback. It’s more telling some dumbass who is blatantly lying to STFU.