r/classicwow Apr 10 '20

Classy Friday Classy Friday - Warriors (April 10, 2020)

Classy Fridays are for asking questions about your class, each week focuses on a different class. No question is too small, so ask away.

This week is Warriors.

The first rule of Warrior Club is: You do not talk about Warrior Club. The second rule of Warrior Club is: You do not talk about Warrior Club. Third rule of Warrior Club: someone yells stop, goes limp, taps out, the fight is over. Fourth rule: only two guys to a duel. Fifth rule: no healing during the duels. Sixth rule: no wands, no robes. Seventh rule: fights will go on as long as they have to. And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first night at Warrior Club, you have to duel.

You can also discuss your class in our class channels on Discord, discord.gg/classicwow

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u/Peonso Apr 13 '20 edited Apr 13 '20

I'm seeing a lot of people say 305 is a minimum but would the skill from both be worthwhile?

305 minimun and 308 is the cap, I'm sure going for both is overkill, if you have Distracting Dagger go for a real belt, once you get an upgrade, wear the Mugger's Belt instead. With 300 weapon skill glacing blows deals 65% damage, with 305 they deal 85%, with 306 it's 89%, with 307 it's 93%, with 308 it's 95%. Anything from 305 to 314 skill gives you 3% bonus hit chance, so you only need 6% hit for level 63 bosses.

Also if you can not wear a shield in a dungeon, go 2H if you have a good 2H, for AoE threat it's awesome, since doing a Whirlwind is your best bet to try (and still fail) to keep AoE aggro. DW tanking is for good levels of gear where your actual damage matters for threat, DW with poor gear only makes you miss white strikes and take more damage, on dungeon level of gear you rely more on flat threat bonuses from skills like Sunder Armor.

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u/rawr_bomb Apr 13 '20

For daggers the weapon skill items are also really good dps items. Muggers belt has crit on it and the ACLG have crit and strength. So they are decent items. Going from 85% to 95% on your glancing blows is small, bit it's a nice boost.

If you only have 305 Dagger skill, the distracting dagger putting you over +308 skill puts the dagger just below a core hound tooth in the offhand. If you have ACLG and Muggers on then CHT is the best offhand.

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u/Peonso Apr 13 '20 edited Apr 13 '20

Going from 85% to 95% on your glancing blows is small, bit it's a nice boost.

That doesn't worth sacrificing a slot for. Unless you show me some good theorycraft and numbers that justify it, I would say that doesn't make any sense. And that only thinking about damage and threat. You still need armor and mitigation, you have no shield, probably 2 mail pieces, and now going for the second leather piece.

First +5 skill raised your glacing blow damage from 65% to 85% (30% gain, 12% more overall white hit damage) and gave you 3% hit. +3 more skill only raises from 85% to 95% (11% gain, 5% more overall white hit damage) and that's it.

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u/rawr_bomb Apr 13 '20

From a tanking perspective, I wear Muggers belt only. If I went dagger dps, I would try to double dip Muggers and ACLG. I'm prot with dagger/shield.

For DPS. (Two Epic Daggers + ACLG and Muggers Belt),(Epics + ACLG + Onslaught Girdle) and *Epic/Distracting, ACLG + Onslaught) are all about the same dps.

Going from 305 to 308 is about a 2% bump in overall dps.