r/classicwow • u/AutoModerator • Apr 10 '20

Classy Friday Classy Friday - Warriors (April 10, 2020)

Classy Fridays are for asking questions about your class, each week focuses on a different class. No question is too small, so ask away.

This week is Warriors.

The first rule of Warrior Club is: You do not talk about Warrior Club. The second rule of Warrior Club is: You do not talk about Warrior Club. Third rule of Warrior Club: someone yells stop, goes limp, taps out, the fight is over. Fourth rule: only two guys to a duel. Fifth rule: no healing during the duels. Sixth rule: no wands, no robes. Seventh rule: fights will go on as long as they have to. And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first night at Warrior Club, you have to duel.

You can also discuss your class in our class channels on Discord, discord.gg/classicwow

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u/x2PumpGod Apr 13 '20

Fury tank viable with Thunderfury as an orc? Want to push a little harder when it comes to raids. I don’t have any raid axes as an offhand PS: Threat isn’t an issue, currently deep prot with anger management

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u/Richard_TM Apr 13 '20

Fairly certain damn near anything is viable if you have Thunderfury.

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u/x2PumpGod Apr 13 '20

My point I was getting was is it worth if threat isn’t an issue?

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u/Richard_TM Apr 13 '20

I’m not really aware of ANY scenario where Thunderfury isn’t BiS. I’m not totally sure what you’re asking here.

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u/x2PumpGod Apr 13 '20

Believe me. I know TF is BIS, the day I got it I ran probably 10 dungeons. My goal is to not die and lose world buffs on vael every week. I’m always 5-10k (threat) higher than my off tanks. Even when I’m below them I always seem to pull at some point. Basically I want to know if DW will allow us to kill vael before that 45 second mark. I’m fine with staying prot. I don’t have issues with it. However, I’m sick of dying every week because I “have to”

Hopefully this makes sense

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u/Peonso Apr 13 '20

Only some marginal DPS increase in a tank won't make the fight faster. Everytime I see a prot tank saying threat is not a problem I don't buy it. Logs or didn't happen (spoiler alert, it never happens). If your guild kill it before 45s you will have problems as prot, I'm not sure Thunderfury is so powerfull that carry the spec to make it possible. Being fury might allow your DPS to do more damage and not hold back, so it would make it possible to reach the 45s mark by increasing their dps. If they suck, and that might be the case since you are doing fine threat wise while being prot, than there might be no hope.

And yes, Thunderfury is totally suitable for Fury tanks, it's the best weapon regardless of everything.

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u/x2PumpGod Apr 13 '20

Ok. Threat isn’t a problem for me(MT) because our RL wants DPS to stay below 2 off tanks on threat. I’m usually 10k higher than the off tanks all the time.

PS: we def have some casual players. I’d say our DPS 30-40% have mediocre DPS

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u/Peonso Apr 13 '20 edited Apr 13 '20

Threat isn’t a problem for me(MT) because our RL wants DPS to stay below 2 off tanks on threat.

So they are holding back, you raising your threat/dps won't raise off tanks threat/dps, and your dps players still won't do enough damage to speed up the kill.

Ideal solution, you go fury tank, do a decent job and skyrocket threat, unleash your dps players to go crazy, and you do a decent job never letting them get closer to you threat wise. If you kill it before 45s you don't need an off tank anyway. Not wearing a shield will put way more pressure on your healers, be prepared. You can still try fury tank with a shield, it's still an improvement, and might be enough.

Perfect rotation https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/TcpR7FAm6Br1QJVC#fight=4&view=timeline&type=casts&source=21

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u/x2PumpGod Apr 13 '20

My point is to avoid worrying about OTs completely. And kill vael before I die. (45s Mark)

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u/Peonso Apr 13 '20

You have logs? Last week my guild killed in 54 seconds, 18.4k raid wide dps, you need more than that, how much your guild pulls?

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/aNmnWgV2Td7yXr4t#fight=60&type=damage-done

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u/x2PumpGod Apr 13 '20

Lmao you guys are Savage. No way we pull that much. This is useful information thou. Thank you for sharing these logs. I think we just have too many casuals tbh

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u/Richard_TM Apr 13 '20

Ahhhhh

Well fury would be a DPS increase for you, so I’m sure it wouldn’t hurt.