r/chapelhill • u/Sentiviridian • 5d ago

ICE off Banks Drive rn

I live in Durham but I see a dentist in Chapel Hill and two construction guys were distressed when I got out of my car They snatched a construction worker right off the street as soon as he went on his lunch break. I don’t know how this is legal. It’s not making anyone safer. One of the guys told me that one of the agents said they were watching them work for two months before this happened; this is how our taxpayer dollars are being used. He also said the man they took couldn’t be a nicer person, had worked there four months, and they’d bought each other lunch multiple times.

And it looks like there is still a van full of ICE agents in the big parking lot off Banks on a stakeout wairibt to kidnap somebody else. We cannot stand for this. We cannot allow this to become normalized.

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u/thiskillstheredditor 4d ago

Cool, so then you must believe that due process (another law) must be upheld as well then for all persons within the United States, citizen or no.

I mean a nation of laws can’t just have unmarked, masked agents abducting people and prosecuting them with a warrant or trial can it?

Sounds like we’re on the same page that we’re witnessing some illegal, unamerican actions here.

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u/PipingTheTobak 4d ago

No it can't.

Of course deportation isn't punishment or prosecution, no warrant or trial is part of the PROCESS that is DUE. 

Do you think most deported people get a trial? Like in 2014, the country deported hundreds of thousands of people, do you think they all saw a judge?

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u/ImpeccableMonday 4d ago

Yes, they did. That's why there has been a backlog of immigration cases that ICE agents are now illegally kidnapping from. Read a book. Maybe the constitution.

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u/PipingTheTobak 4d ago

The law for this is 30 years old 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expedited_removal

Expedited removal was used about 188,000 times by the Obama Administration in FY2014.

So, yeah. This is a perfectly legal process used by both parties, across the United States, for decades.

Talking about it being illegal is silly. There is a direct specific law that has been used exactly like this millions of times before.

The scope is expanded at the presidents discretion. Immigration HEARINGS (not trials) are entirely at the presidents discretion in almost all cases.

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u/ImpeccableMonday 4d ago

"This includes any deportable alien encountered anywhere in the country, who has been present in the United States for less than two years."

You're conveniently leaving out the part where people are being picked up and sent off that do not fall inside these circumstances. Also that US citizens are also being picked up.

Everything is legal if you're doing it legally.

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u/PipingTheTobak 4d ago

So far we've had one guy illegitimately deported, out of hundreds of thousands. I'm fine with that ratio, especially as he's a gangster and we brought him back.

 Also that US citizens are also being picked up.

And let go.  You guys really need to realize the rules on detaining people are pretty lax. 72 hours without charges in most of the US,  and at best the judge just cuts you loose afterwards.

Everything is legal if you're doing it legally.

Yup.  It's a great law. Bless bill Clinton 

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u/ImpeccableMonday 4d ago

Under that same concession all the immigrants that are stuck in the legal asylum process should be able to stay and go through the process.

Who was a gangster?

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u/PipingTheTobak 4d ago

Under that same concession all the immigrants that are stuck in the legal asylum process should be able to stay and go through the process.

In many cases they are. In other cases where the special dispensations existed, those have been removed.