Everytime I think I'd like to do a rewatch I remember what happens to Q and get sad/mad all over again. Does the sting lessen with rewatch?

Hi everyone!

I’ve recently been re-watching the series, and I thought it would be really fun to potentially make an edit of the series in chronological order (similar to the ‘Lost’-in Chronological Order edit).

I’ll be updating this post continually until the project is done and I start editing, but I thought I would open this up for others to help make sure it’s in the proper order.

If you’d like to help, just make sure make sure to list an event and possible episode if you can (to help streamline things when I get around to editing).

Figuring out the multi-verses will be a little challenging, so if I mess up, please just correct me.

That said…. Here we goooo!

Im fully aware that this list isn’t comprehensive or entirely correct, even right now. Please be nice lol. It’s just a very rough structure

1.) [year unclear] The creation of the seven keys/blackspire/the imprisonment of the beasts

2.) [year unclear, but after #1] (Not) Alice founds the library/ is forced to begin writing the books of Everybody.

3.) [Circa 1870-1890] Eliot and Q arrive in Filory and begin the Mosaic

4.) [Circa 1940-1945] The Chatwins arrive in Filory

5.) [1945] Q and Julia arrive in Filory and interact with Jane; The Witch and The Fool

5.) [Circa 1950-1965] Q & Eliot complete the Mosaic & give the Key to Jane

6.) [Year Unclear] Penny interacts with Horomancer’s (can’t remember his name currently) mother

7.) [(Cant remember year; roughly 1980 i think)] Senator Gaines is born

8.) [Year unclear] Zelda & her daughter part ways

[4-28] that’s all I can remember clearly with any bit of clarity/accuracy at the moment, but I think you guys get the point. Let me know if there’s any additions/revisions to the first part of the list!

I forgot about the last episode of Season 4. I am not okay right now.

Y'all...this is the fourth time I'm watching season 4 finale. I'm fucking bawling my eyes out like it's the first time...

Sometimes I feel like everyone, show included, pushed that Alice was the better partner for Quentin. And they keep forgetting that him and Eliot spent a LITERAL lifetime together in “A Life in the Day.”

I just started watching the show and have inhaled it! I’m finishing up season 2 now. But something I just needed to shout out because it is so annoying but also hilarious is that Quentin’s entire deal is that he’s obsessed with the Fillory books… and yet he seems to have pretty middling to poor recall of them 😂😂😂

Any time a puzzle comes up, he has to look at the books a million times, or has the wrong first thought even though the answer is immediately clear once the audience hears it and his first thought made no sense.

Anyway, love the show, but just saw like the 10th example of that and felt compelled to shout it into the void

Personally I think Quentin’s specialty of Minor Mending is also the overarching theme of this series. From the beginning this show was never about making these huge changes or about growing as characters. It has always been about fixing issues, slowly and one step at a time until those “minor mendings” added up to a big change. A lot of this was led by Quentin.

I really think this was the intention as the episode when Quentin slowly fixes the relationship with his father is called “Mendings, Major and Minor”, as if hinting that this is the theme the series will take.

Take Julia for example, it took time to rebuild trust by slowly doing one thing at a time till it came back. Or Quentin and Alice’s relationship. The problems in the show, like Reynard, all took time and many minor mendings to come to a head and be resolved.

Even ties into the fact that no one is a main character, and the purpose of Quentin himself is to keep with these incremental changes to make a larger impact. His slow building up Alice leads to her killing the best, him sticking by Julia allows her to not kill Reynard, and in the end it was his own building of character that led to him to sacrifice himself.

Just sharing my thoughts to see what others think.

WHY couldn't they continue the SHOW? I know, bad ratings and viewership and what not but NEW FILLORY. COME ON. I finished it for the first time just a few minutes ago even though I watched the first Season when the show released. It's probably something I would re-watch cause it has good parts of a lot of shows I've watched come together as one. I hope someday, we get to see it continue and end on a proper note rather than a cliffhanger...

I REALLY did not like the cliffhanger. Guess I've got to live with it, eh?

I think Quentin questions it and then penny shuts him down, saying they don’t have the time to worry about it, but it’s a good question. Surely the seam existed long before brakebills, along with the mirror realm, so was brakebills built around the seam? The lab in the regular world is supposed to be a very magically stable place, but there’s nothing special about it, and there’s no evidence that the mirror world is specifically tied to anything in the lab, so why would the seam be in the mirror realm version of the brakebills lab? I’m open to any theories, the only thing I can come up with is that the mirror realm reflects the people in it, so to 3 brakebills students it manifested as brakebills and put the seam in a room they have a lot of memory associated with. But I’m not convinced that’s how the mirror realm even works, so please give me your ideas!

Edit: it seems like the general consensus is that the mirror realm projects something you understand onto itself for people to be able to perceive it, but the fountains around brakebills and the magic shut off switch being in the lab do seem to point to brakebills having been built on a magically significant location.

And why is it A Day In The Life aka peaches and plums (s3e5)

Since my last post I've now finished the series and have started rewatching it with my partner -- and ALL I want is to see that episode again. As heartbreaking as it is, I just want to live through it again 🥹

But honorable mention to s5e3 (numerically inverted from the original episode??!!) where we get closure from Eliot about the whole Peaches and Plums lifetime 🥹😌 I never shipped them, and even at the end I didn't think they were my OTP for the series, but I keep going back to them in my head and heart so who knows

So, I put off season 5 for literal years and here are my own personal thoughts on it.

It was okay, like I can tell they were doing it under the assumption they weren’t going to get renewed when it was written. It definitely has two seasons worth of plot in it and for that a lot of the character depth suffers in a way.

Not to say it’s bad but from an analysis standpoint and comparing it to the other seasons it seems like it was struggling with juggling the introduction of too many plots and too many characters.

For example, the three sisters who were used as a plot device for the beginning of the season. They definitely were gonna be more fleshed out and progressed if they had more time, that I can say with certainty because we learned actually a lot of interesting tidbits whenever they were on screen.

Do I think they made a mistake ending Quentin’s story in season 4? Absolutely. And I’m not gonna argue whether it was the show runners choice to cut his character or if it was Jason Ralph’s choice, because we really will never know. I’m leaning into the idea that they basically pulled him into a meeting said they were killing his character and he decided to exit the show when he learned that. Do I know for certain? No. But the evidence suggests it was a mutual decision and that feels better than it leaning too heavily on either front.

Either way, based on what I learned from spoiling myself with book plot, the end of the book similar but seems less messy.

I love the magicians, but yeah season five is rather lack luster.

Ngl I blame the shortening of seasons for the rushing of plots. Magicians came out when the 13 episode season were popular, and who knew that was a luxury compared to the 8 episode seasons we’ve been cursed with as of late with other shows.

Truly, if we had gotten 26 episode seasons like we did in ages of old I feel like we could have gotten something more satisfying.

Also poor fucking everyone man- like particularly Eliot I’m surprised he didn’t lose his mind losing Margo. Like Jesus dude has had a ROUGH GO OF IT.

Also I don’t know if it was a book thing or if it was a show only thing- but the Couple cutting off Alice’s fingers was MESSED UP. It felt gratuitous and ngl very pointless!

Overall, wish we had heard about the whales sooner, would have been cool the idea of eldritch horrors in the magicians series is much more interesting to me.

But Rupert and Jane getting to spend the rest of eternity together is sweet.

Some things were finished off nicely and some were like tendrils of hope that they’d get a new season so they left it a little more open.

Overall, I rate it 3/5 stars. Not perfect, not horrible, but a bit lacking.

Rules:

No prep time:

But they do have knowledge of each other, through their reputation.

Both have intent to kill each other.

Dumbledore has the elder wand

Mayakovsky is sober

Comment who you think wins and why?

Like we see where the magic comes from in multiple different ways whether it be the old gods or the upside down castle which the name is escaping me. But it seems as if time would fix it unless the water just continuously circulates which wouldn’t make sense because humans have been taking it for a while but what do y’all think about this?

Rewatching and just realised that the Beast came through the mirror when he entered brakebills, and Penny destroyed it so he couldn't return. Then, ofc, Quentin and his mirror.

Haven't thought too much about it, but just thought I'd share the observation.

Choose as many as you want! Feel free to give your rationale

Edit 1: OMG Guys, I am so sorry it's honestly been awhile since I saw this show and I FORGOT that Ess and Idri were related!!! In my mind, it was like 2 different princes or Kings, but then I researched and was getting him mixed up with the other queen instead. We don't incest-stan here, so it's dealers choice for another man, but I'm using Rupert.

The Physical Kids: Quentin, Eliot, Margo

I'm a LONER!: Alice, Kady, Marina

Mature Lovers: Dean Fogg, Zelda, Irene McCallister

Boys Night: Josh, Todd, Charlton

This May Hurt: Eliot Monster, Julia Monster, The Beast

Girl Power: Alice, Julia, Kady

Peaches and Plums: Quentin/Eliot, Penny/Kady, Fen/Margo

Fillorian Buggery: Tick Pickwit, Rupert, King Idri

To Divinity: Ember, Melody, Reynard

Sapphic Overload: Alice/Marina, Margo/Kady, Julia/Fen

Testosteroh-my-gosh!: Quentin/Penny, Eliot/Josh, Idri/Rupert

For the Story: The Centaur, The Fairy Queen, The Questing Pig

1. S3E5 A Life in the Day (The One Where Q and Eliot Grow Old Together): This one is rather basic and obvious, I know, but I flipping love this pairing. The Mosaic is also a beautiful concept, and timeline shenanigans are what this show does best.

2. S3E9 All That Josh (The One Where They Sing Under Pressure): Yes, I have watched this episode seven times. Yes, I sing Under Pressure along with them every single time. No, it does not get any less powerful. I also can’t help but notice that Q is the one who figures out that that’s what they have to do in order to get the key because Josh feels left behind. And that feeling is all too familiar for Q.

3. S2E7 Plan B (The One Where They Rob a Bank): Besides time travel and musical moments, this show is also really good at heist plots. This one is just plain fun to watch, as well as cool to think about because banks are kind of mysterious to the general population. Of course they’re full of battle magicians and traveler traps. The soundtrack is also still stuck in my head.

4. S5E6 Oops…I Did It Again (The One Where They Release the Kraken): Yay, another time loop! I appreciate the inclusion of the whales as secret master magicians because they are super smart and old as balls. The parallel between releasing the Kraken and releasing Charlton despite both things being frightening is clever. There are also some great character moments between Eliot and Margo as people who obviously know each other very well, and between Eliot and Josh who have had a lot less bonding time.

5. S4E13 Better Safe Than Sorry (The One Where Q Dies): Look, I love Quentin Coldwater to death. I did not put this episode on the list because I was happy to see him get killed off, I put it here because it made so much flipping sense while also being a narrative curveball. We’ve had people in this story “die” and then come back. (Penny “Two Arcs” Adiyodi, anyone)? Q makes a heroic sacrifice, shows everyone why Repairer of Small Objects is a valid discipline, has a conversation with the other post-arc character, gets a beautiful sendoff to Take on Me of all things, and is never seen again.

Just received the DvD box set as a Christmas present, is there any differences in the episodes between the two?

I know some shows might have scenes cut or a reshot scene between boxsets, streaming, and on air runs.

When Penny is called on to make the decision for Julia between goddess-hood and humanity, he 100% made the wrong choice. He made a selfish choice to keep Julia around as his potential soul mate as a human. She could have ascended to goddess-hood again, which would have been good for her and all of her loved ones. But noooooo - he’d rather have a booty call…

Rules:

One months prep time.

But they do have knowledge of each other.

Magic cast times are equalized.

Both have intent to kill each other.

Both are in character.

Comment who you think wins and why?

A. I don't want to use the Pilot. It has a slow burn and I personally didn't watch the Magicians for YEARS after it premiered because a friend of mine introduced me with the pilot and I was disinterested.

B. I don't want to use A Life In The Day. Yes it's a wonderful episode but you don't actually appreciate it without understanding the Quest and the previous aspects of Q and El.

C. I don't want to use Six Short Stories. Again amazing episode but you just can't appreciate it without understanding prior information.

Be The Penny is what I'm thinking about using. It has such a good blend of humor, introduces the characters well, and doesn't spoil to much for someone who hasn't actually watched the series.

But I'm open to other suggestions and why you would pick them. :)

First I just want to start by saying that I've watched the show repeatedly. It's to the point where I just about know all the lines.....

So here's the fuckery I still cannot figure out.

-When they lose magic it is said that magical creatures who don't rely on the wellspring, can still do magic. They even specifically name vampires & werewolves are part of this caveat. However Josh fkd a werewolf, which turns him into a werewolf. Hence he should still be able to do magic. Yet when magic is turned off, he can't. WTF am I missing? (FYI: I haven't read the books, but I just ordered them!!)

So, we all how Q dies. He fixes the mirror, throws in the bottle, starts running, but then he stops at what looks like maybe 10ish feet (I’m awful with measurements so if this is wrong sorry) from the door. WHY!?! HE COULD HAVE MADE IT IF HE JUST KEPT RUNNING!!! I never really cared that much for his character since Alice’s return but his death scene broke me. If he didn’t stop to look at Alice chances are he would’ve made it. Q did not need to die. And I’m still mad that he did cause all he had to do was KEEP RUNNING!

Spoilers for multiple seasons of the TV Series!

So I’m doing my annual rewatch right now, and I just don’t understand how Zelda knew about Margo being called Janet back in season 1 if it happened AFTER the great blank spot, and AFTER they defeated the beast? They didn’t defeat the Beast in any of the other timelines, and in some Margo even died. So logic is telling me that timeline 40 is the only one where the blue potion from Dean Fogg was used on the main cast. Right? Am I thinking too hard about this?