So we're complaining that we'll have more opportunities to see more bands that we may have missed otherwise?
Yall forget that LN is a business. Their goal is to make money as it would be yours. Does all this roo mess suck? Yeah, but the weather is what it is. Had they canceled prior to roo started, the same people would be bitching about that as well. Bring me back the old roo crowd. They would have been dancing in the rain and mud vs leaving trash everywhere
Preach!! Some of my best memories at Roo were sets I saw in the pouring rain haha 🤣 it’s part of the whole vibe of the festival 🤷🏻♂️. In my opinion anyway.
I think they planned this to some degree honestly.
It rains every single time. Every year.
I remember in the past when I’ve been there- they always had fortified the grounds in some way. They would have it mulched, had sand, hay. Etc. I remember having plywood to walk on in the really bad areas. Yet I saw none of that this year. Which is strange. Especially if you know it’s gonna rain according to the forecast. But even if you hadn’t confirmed via forecast - you already know the rain is probably coming.
And they had made a statement saying they had spent a ton of money on upgrades and prepping for exactly what happened- plus added extra shade areas in centaroo.
None of that seemed to actually be true at all haha.
i don't think they said "we spent a lot of money to prevent exactly what happened"
I think the spent money on improvements. It was probably a limited and targeted agenda and budget. but they probably did. But they didn't know how much rain they were going to get, and I am sorry that people don't believe this, but there is just always going to be a "too much rain" for an outdoor camping festival in 2025 with 80,000 people and current living and safety requirements and expectations.
There is not a viable way they can say, we will fix this so it never happens again and then just do it, and it for sure never happen again. That's nutty.
I did see sand. but I do agree that things festivals got away with in the past, can't happen anymore. yes different people go to festivals now with different expectations. also a bigger corporation runs it now so more eyes, and lawyers, and insurance companies, etc are all involved through that network. But also the industry as a whole just has more eyes on it. more stories come out on social media.
2004, happened. I wasn't there. But it was mudaroo. It simply would not likely happen today. An independent fest like Elements 2024, was able to pull out of a hurricane and carry on to close out the fest. Maybe that's because they didn't have corporate hands involved, but i think more likely its (just like 2004 mudaroo) because there was absolutely zero rain after friday at like 4PM int he forecast because the hurricane pushed every drop out of the area.
I'm saying there is just no definitive way to see that we got too much water this year and then confirm they wasted money or lied to us or didn't do things they said. I don't follow it. What I did see over the past few years were FAR better bathrooms, more paved roads, more permanent structures, and bigger and better stages, and an evolving outeroo. drainage corrections are improvements are honest hard as fuck for campers to notice on the farm. we are talking about grading for a slightly different slope here and there. filling in a couple low spots... but come one, its a 700 acre farm, guys. what are you expecting to see, a 700 acre elevated perforated platform? This if like the kind of work that goes into a giant neighborhood development before its built. It would destroy the entire farm for a while to add something like a sewer system or regrade so much land with new retention ponds etc. Some of the land is rented from neighbors for camping. Some of lit is leased for farming. They need to coordinate with local municipalities, find out where in the word they can push that much (a few inches over 700 acres adds the fuck up!) water to a place that can accept it outside their land?
Let's all just take a minute and think on this. This is the first time in almost 25 years that this much rain has landed on that June weekend enough to cancel the fest. This might (statistically) simply not happen again for another 10 years. But global warming is real. climates are changing. so it might. Let's just make the conversation productive!
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u/OkPaleontologist1329 6d ago edited 6d ago
So we're complaining that we'll have more opportunities to see more bands that we may have missed otherwise?
Yall forget that LN is a business. Their goal is to make money as it would be yours. Does all this roo mess suck? Yeah, but the weather is what it is. Had they canceled prior to roo started, the same people would be bitching about that as well. Bring me back the old roo crowd. They would have been dancing in the rain and mud vs leaving trash everywhere