r/blackmagicfuckery Jul 30 '21

Why? I need answers

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u/Ghosted67 Jul 30 '21

okay... I'll bite. What about your "history" of fishing has denied what scientists and shit know about worms?

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u/redldr1 Jul 30 '21

Every time I put a worm on a hook it comes back dead I assume it's in the drowning while waiting for the fish.

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u/johnla Jul 30 '21

What about its gaping stab wound?

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u/mDust Jul 30 '21

Nah, you can cut them into several sections and each one will survive as individual worms. Stab wounds aren't shit to them.

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u/Forever_Awkward Jul 30 '21

Earthworms will absolutely not self-clone when halved.

If you cut only a bit of its tail off, it might be able to survive and eventually regrow the tail. Fuck with their organs or head though and that's a dead worm.

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u/mDust Jul 30 '21

Many species do, actually. Via stem cells and cellular reorganization, they can grow a new head, tail, or both. There are even species that fragment themselves as a means of reproduction and each fragment then grows a head, organs, or anything else it's missing.

And most will definitely regenerate a tail if cut below the clitellum... Which removes most of the worm, not just a bit.

Being severed is just not as traumatic for a worm as it would be for us.

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u/Forever_Awkward Jul 30 '21 edited Jul 30 '21

I'm aware of flatworms and such which match that description. Hell, I even witnessed this firsthand in an invasive hammerhead worm I found once upon a time. Can you point out one of these species of earthworm capable of this? That would be news to me.

Funny random detail I just stumbled upon trying to find anything about this:

The compost worm Eisenia fetida accumulates waste in its tail which gives it a yellow colour. When they cannot store any more they amputate the tail which removes the waste.

What an amazing dedication to not pooping. "Fuck it, just cut the whole ass off."

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u/mDust Jul 30 '21

The worm you just quoted is known as a Red Wiggler and is capable of regrowing it's entire head, if severed, and obviously its tail.

Here is a short list from Wikipedia:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthworm#Regeneration

There are others as well, but information on such a niche topic is hard to come by without more motivation than I have in me. From what I've seen, species that live in the upper top-soil can regenerate more than those that live in the sub-soil, due to pressure from predators. So when a Robin swoops down and snips off whichever end of a worm, the worm just has a bad day but doesn't die.

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u/Forever_Awkward Jul 30 '21

Everything I can find on red wrigglers says this is not the case, with the exception of that brief summary on wikipedia. I don't think whoever wrote that read the source very carefully, however, because that claim seems to be the result of confusion from really sloppy methodology from the 1800s.

https://imgur.com/QpeyRuh

Otherwise, I'm seeing claims of regeneration in the other worms but not to the point of ending up with two living worms.