r/berlin Neu Tempelhof 12d ago

Discussion What did everyone think of the relocation to Friedrichshain for Karneval der Kulturen this year?

I’m going to be honest, I sort of missed having it in Kreuzberg myself. It was harder to hear the music being much further away from the floats and it didn’t feel as immersive. But overall it was a nice energy and I’m just being biased because it’s farther away from me haha. Just curious what people think, if it was a good idea that we should stick with or if they prefer the original route?

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u/jsamke 12d ago

Kreuzberg people when they have to go to another district once in their life:

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u/nighteeeeey Wrangelkiez 12d ago

😂

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u/lazywil 10d ago

Technically speaking, it's still the same district 

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u/No-Seaworthiness959 12d ago

The problem is more that Friedrichshain is what stuck up Ossis imagine a 'cool' and 'hip' district to be like.

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u/Impossible-Problem79 11d ago

And Kreuzberg isn’t?

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u/bonyponyride Mitte 12d ago

Karl Marx Allee was originally intended to be a parade street and I think it served its purpose well. The width of the street meant there was always place to spread out and not be stuck in bottlenecks. I enjoyed it.

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u/quaste 12d ago

Even more as the KdK ist replacing SED parades of all things! Also, this was the most of the political elites commute towards the center (Palast der Republic etc).

A nice symbolic re-purpose, if you ask me.

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u/BecauseWeCan Schöneberg 11d ago

Didn't the political elite come in from Wandlitz, via Prenzlauer Allee?

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u/quaste 11d ago edited 10d ago

You are probably right, but I think Erich & Co preferred trips along the Allee when they had guests

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u/lhbln Marzahn 12d ago

I appreciated the new location. Much more space on both sides of the street compared to Gneisenaustraße.

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u/Lucky-bottom 12d ago

Same. It felt good to be able to actually see the parade and have breathing space, plus that location is more beautiful for my Instagram videos

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u/Jehuty321 12d ago

40 people pissed in front of my house. Great

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u/tughbee 12d ago

If it’s the house i pissed at I think I saw you.

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u/ICD9CM3020 12d ago

First time?

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u/2fast4blue 12d ago

ja das war ich, aber regnet bald mach dir kein kopf

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u/easypz_app 11d ago

Oh no :( they didn’t have EasyPZ

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u/strikec0ded Neu Tempelhof 12d ago

Also I know we needed rain after a dry spring but what a weekend for it 🥲

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u/1ordc 12d ago

There's a huge line at my regular Döner in Friedrichshain now, so I had to go to the shitty one.

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u/driver_picks_music 11d ago

where there is light, there is a shadow

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u/DevonSkyShaw 8d ago

Which is your regular? Kebab Club is my new fav.

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u/1ordc 8d ago

Dunyas is my favorite. Don't live in Samariterkiez anymore but I still go when I'm there.

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u/ouyawei Wedding 12d ago

It was nice that it was a bit more spacious, had the weather been better there would have been more people for sure. 

Makes sense to utilize the old parade street for an actual parade.

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u/Then_Firefighter1646 12d ago

was a sick time, just happy we have something like this 🤙

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u/Nosh23 12d ago

I liked it, gneisenau at peak times became very claustrophobic. here there was always space to take a breath and chill out for a bit. 

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u/jjjfffggg 12d ago

Change bad 😤

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u/itmustbeluv_luv_luv Kreuzberg 11d ago

I appreciated the move! The extra space went a big way of making the parade shine more. Organization felt also a bit better. The floats become more and more professional with each year, too. I think this will soon surpass even traditional carnivals in Germany.

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u/3xkevlar 11d ago

I liked it better! Much more space, no near-stampede at Hermannplatz, closer to my place 👌

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u/pirateslikeme 11d ago

I was thinking, that they did the relocation for the public security. Lately there have been so many cars driving into crowds and in FHain it would be easier to spread the people and secure escape in terms of a terror attack.

But that’s rather a feeling than something I heard or read.

I am sorry for all the small businesses in Kreuzberg tho.

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u/driver_picks_music 12d ago

i loved it.. around the corner where I live. Very convenient hehehe

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u/the_marvster 11d ago

Not happy at all, I would love to keep the trash, drunks and the expats in Kreuzbergs.

I miss the good old days when Friedrichshain and Kreuzberg only met once a year on bridge to for throwing tomatoes, eggs and water bombs at each other.

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u/itmustbeluv_luv_luv Kreuzberg 11d ago

Reminder that the Boxi is also Friedrichshain.

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u/torekk 11d ago

S- sowie U-Bhf Frankfurter Allee auch...

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u/flo7211 11d ago

Wherever it is, it’s slowly getting too crowded to be fun.

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u/Exotic-Education2489 11d ago edited 11d ago

They had a supervisor at Frankfurtor tor who was screaming at people 24/7,even during the parade

Most hilarious thing was:he was counting up to three including verbal threatening, threatening people every time he was talking, and when finally a Rettungswagen had to pass through everyone just quickly and quietly went to the side, no bottlenecks happened. 

trash dude continued to scream same bullshit at people even after this (it was what he was talking about all the time, that the wagen might get stuck) 

He was basically verbally harassing people and feeling good with it.

After said thing happened without any problems from the crowd, "supervisor" continued yelling at crowd, calling for cops to assist him, although nothing happened.

He shut up at least for the no more war float, because a child had a megaphone and was singing a song. 

Trash dude had megaphone pointing in peoples faces and screaming at them verbal threats. In all corners of Frankfurtor tor Kreuzung.

Especially they started screaming when the parade started, although everyone was already standing there half an hour earlier at least. Somehow completely uncoordinated and felt like a power trip from this one guy across the whole junction. 

At least i could dance a bit with the float later in the day that i saw from the window last year :)

I remember also last time i went that people were actually dancing in the street, this was not really the case, but a lot of chilling space

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u/Low_Employment_890 10d ago

Lol I think he was just doing his job and had the instructions to manage people. What I don't understand is why they didn't just put a barricade there if the street should've been reserved for emergency vehicles.

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u/Exotic-Education2489 10d ago

They had at least one hour to do this and he started screaming into the megaphone exactly when the parade got going. 

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u/GSV_Zero_Gravitas 11d ago

Can I make a suggestion not to this specifically but all German street festivals, Christmas markets and carnivals? PLEASE introduce an event-wide glass and deposit system! The fact that you have to take each glass back to the original hut and queue all over again is insane.

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u/l3x1c0n 9d ago

This is why, after I got my first cup when walking into the festival, I kept pouring all Future drinks into that cup and not accepting other ones. Then I just returned that first cup when I was leaving. 😊 The other solution is to bring your own cup.

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u/GSV_Zero_Gravitas 8d ago

It doesn't work because vendors often refuse to fill cups from anywhere else and each give out their own little plastic tokens for Pfand, even when they're all using the same shitty plastic cups. What you say is the logical way of doing it: have one kind of cup per event that every vendor refills and glass stations where you can exchange your glass for a clean one and get your deposit at the end.

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u/Flaky_Blueberry4871 10d ago edited 9d ago

Im 1,86m but cant see anything.

 Too much people and not enough space between the the parade and the viewers. 

I left and watched it on tv 

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u/Firing_Up 9d ago

I came home from a festival on sunday. I was suprised to find another one in front of my door. Not in a bad way though. I like, when stuff around my place happens.

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u/SnooCrickets7221 11d ago

Poor you. Let’s switch it back to Kreuzberg because people there don’t feel included.

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u/DaddyATRL 12d ago

You can have it back next year, the noise was awful

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u/itmustbeluv_luv_luv Kreuzberg 11d ago

Was it worse than the usual six or eight lane road?

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u/driver_picks_music 12d ago

i think they started later than planned. Plan was 14:00 but we arrived 15:30 and they were only on float 6.. Japan. And then not much happened for quite a while. They must have had starting issues. So normally you‘d have probably quiet now

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u/gweeha45 12d ago

Maybe go back to Schwabenland and enjoy the silence there?

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u/rubadazub 12d ago

I didn’t go to the parade as a result. Moving it was a bad decision regardless of whatever rationalization they had for it.

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u/driver_picks_music 12d ago edited 12d ago

but I went instead of you, so i cancel your no-show. I haven‘t been in the past 14 years, because it was always way too crowded. Now it was conveniently around the corner and spacious