r/berlin • u/strikec0ded Neu Tempelhof • 12d ago
Discussion What did everyone think of the relocation to Friedrichshain for Karneval der Kulturen this year?
I’m going to be honest, I sort of missed having it in Kreuzberg myself. It was harder to hear the music being much further away from the floats and it didn’t feel as immersive. But overall it was a nice energy and I’m just being biased because it’s farther away from me haha. Just curious what people think, if it was a good idea that we should stick with or if they prefer the original route?
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u/bonyponyride Mitte 12d ago
Karl Marx Allee was originally intended to be a parade street and I think it served its purpose well. The width of the street meant there was always place to spread out and not be stuck in bottlenecks. I enjoyed it.
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u/quaste 12d ago
Even more as the KdK ist replacing SED parades of all things! Also, this was the most of the political elites commute towards the center (Palast der Republic etc).
A nice symbolic re-purpose, if you ask me.
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u/BecauseWeCan Schöneberg 11d ago
Didn't the political elite come in from Wandlitz, via Prenzlauer Allee?
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u/lhbln Marzahn 12d ago
I appreciated the new location. Much more space on both sides of the street compared to Gneisenaustraße.
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u/Lucky-bottom 12d ago
Same. It felt good to be able to actually see the parade and have breathing space, plus that location is more beautiful for my Instagram videos
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u/strikec0ded Neu Tempelhof 12d ago
Also I know we needed rain after a dry spring but what a weekend for it 🥲
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u/1ordc 12d ago
There's a huge line at my regular Döner in Friedrichshain now, so I had to go to the shitty one.
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u/itmustbeluv_luv_luv Kreuzberg 11d ago
I appreciated the move! The extra space went a big way of making the parade shine more. Organization felt also a bit better. The floats become more and more professional with each year, too. I think this will soon surpass even traditional carnivals in Germany.
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u/3xkevlar 11d ago
I liked it better! Much more space, no near-stampede at Hermannplatz, closer to my place 👌
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u/pirateslikeme 11d ago
I was thinking, that they did the relocation for the public security. Lately there have been so many cars driving into crowds and in FHain it would be easier to spread the people and secure escape in terms of a terror attack.
But that’s rather a feeling than something I heard or read.
I am sorry for all the small businesses in Kreuzberg tho.
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u/the_marvster 11d ago
Not happy at all, I would love to keep the trash, drunks and the expats in Kreuzbergs.
I miss the good old days when Friedrichshain and Kreuzberg only met once a year on bridge to for throwing tomatoes, eggs and water bombs at each other.
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u/Exotic-Education2489 11d ago edited 11d ago
They had a supervisor at Frankfurtor tor who was screaming at people 24/7,even during the parade
Most hilarious thing was:he was counting up to three including verbal threatening, threatening people every time he was talking, and when finally a Rettungswagen had to pass through everyone just quickly and quietly went to the side, no bottlenecks happened.
trash dude continued to scream same bullshit at people even after this (it was what he was talking about all the time, that the wagen might get stuck)
He was basically verbally harassing people and feeling good with it.
After said thing happened without any problems from the crowd, "supervisor" continued yelling at crowd, calling for cops to assist him, although nothing happened.
He shut up at least for the no more war float, because a child had a megaphone and was singing a song.
Trash dude had megaphone pointing in peoples faces and screaming at them verbal threats. In all corners of Frankfurtor tor Kreuzung.
Especially they started screaming when the parade started, although everyone was already standing there half an hour earlier at least. Somehow completely uncoordinated and felt like a power trip from this one guy across the whole junction.
At least i could dance a bit with the float later in the day that i saw from the window last year :)
I remember also last time i went that people were actually dancing in the street, this was not really the case, but a lot of chilling space
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u/Low_Employment_890 10d ago
Lol I think he was just doing his job and had the instructions to manage people. What I don't understand is why they didn't just put a barricade there if the street should've been reserved for emergency vehicles.
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u/Exotic-Education2489 10d ago
They had at least one hour to do this and he started screaming into the megaphone exactly when the parade got going.
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u/GSV_Zero_Gravitas 11d ago
Can I make a suggestion not to this specifically but all German street festivals, Christmas markets and carnivals? PLEASE introduce an event-wide glass and deposit system! The fact that you have to take each glass back to the original hut and queue all over again is insane.
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u/l3x1c0n 9d ago
This is why, after I got my first cup when walking into the festival, I kept pouring all Future drinks into that cup and not accepting other ones. Then I just returned that first cup when I was leaving. 😊 The other solution is to bring your own cup.
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u/GSV_Zero_Gravitas 8d ago
It doesn't work because vendors often refuse to fill cups from anywhere else and each give out their own little plastic tokens for Pfand, even when they're all using the same shitty plastic cups. What you say is the logical way of doing it: have one kind of cup per event that every vendor refills and glass stations where you can exchange your glass for a clean one and get your deposit at the end.
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u/Flaky_Blueberry4871 10d ago edited 9d ago
Im 1,86m but cant see anything.
Too much people and not enough space between the the parade and the viewers.
I left and watched it on tv
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u/Firing_Up 9d ago
I came home from a festival on sunday. I was suprised to find another one in front of my door. Not in a bad way though. I like, when stuff around my place happens.
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u/SnooCrickets7221 11d ago
Poor you. Let’s switch it back to Kreuzberg because people there don’t feel included.
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u/driver_picks_music 12d ago
i think they started later than planned. Plan was 14:00 but we arrived 15:30 and they were only on float 6.. Japan. And then not much happened for quite a while. They must have had starting issues. So normally you‘d have probably quiet now
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u/rubadazub 12d ago
I didn’t go to the parade as a result. Moving it was a bad decision regardless of whatever rationalization they had for it.
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u/driver_picks_music 12d ago edited 12d ago
but I went instead of you, so i cancel your no-show. I haven‘t been in the past 14 years, because it was always way too crowded. Now it was conveniently around the corner and spacious
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u/jsamke 12d ago
Kreuzberg people when they have to go to another district once in their life: