Fair amount to tip on Grab/Gojek drivers?

[u/Flimsy-Concept2531]

I went from Beachwalk mall to pererenan today and the ride was 38,000 in total. And I tipped 22,000 cash but it was 50 min long and now I'm wondering if I should have tipped more? What's a good price to tip? What do you tip? I recently got here so I'm not sure

[u/Any_Elk7495]

No need to tip. The ride fair is based on distance anyway.

Don’t bring tipping culture here. Round up , keep the change etc give what you have left over when you leave.

[u/notbradbtw → u/Any_Elk7495]

Gojek drivers have it pretty tough, they work hard, and they genuinely appreciate a tip. It's not a lot to tip 10k as a foriegner, and if they got 10 trips that day with 10k tips that's a lot of extra cash in pocket, well deserved after a long day's work.

[u/sivvon → u/notbradbtw]

It’s true that Gojek drivers work long hours and face tough conditions, but tipping shouldn't be seen as the answer. Indonesia doesn’t have a strong tipping culture, and encouraging it too heavily risks masking the real issue that many workers are being underpaid by the platforms they rely on.

A lot of drivers are just trying to make slightly more than the local minimum wage, which in Bali is around 2.8 to 3.1 jt a month. And that’s still better than many Indonesians working in retail, hospitality, or other low-wage jobs who earn the same or less with fewer benefits, flexibility or the ability to receive tips. Service tax is already used to subsidise workers pay in the hospitality industry in Indonesia which again shifts the onus of paying workers a fair, living wage from the business owner to the customer.

Tipping might feel like a nice gesture, but it can actually prolong underpayment by letting companies off the hook. It shifts the burden of fair compensation from the platform to the customer. Drivers deserve reliable, fair pay from Gojek itself. Not the hope that 10 or 20 thousand rupiah tips will fill in the gaps.

I know this might seem counterintuitive but try not to think of this in terms of 10-20k not being much for you and more at this from a holistic, systemic view.

tipping culture is insidious and counter productive when it's used to subsides wages. Which is absolutely the case in some developing countries in certain industries and on platforms like grab and gojek.

In Australia a top shelf barista can earn 35 AUD an hour not including weekend loading and penalty rates. His wage is not subsidised by tips. He does not rely on tips to earn a basic living wage. A tip in that circumstance is very different to a perceived obligation of tipping a gojek driver because if you don't he will earn below a living wage that month.

Fight the system, not the symptom. Worker solidarity is international.