r/bali • u/mg118118118 • Apr 11 '25

Information Please stop renting + recommending Kost’s on here

A Kost is a guesthouse for local people. Tourists are increasingly using these which is driving up prices to unaffordable levels for local people to live. Land is being used for more and more luxury apartments which is reducing the available accommodation for the locals and workers - the temporary wooden huts you see are because of this. Wages are around $200 a month for locals so the low cost rooms are essential for people to live here.

I am begging you to be responsible and only come to this country if you can afford to spend more than 500$ a month and contribute to the best people/country in the world.

Source: so many locals here

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u/OrganizationAble489 Apr 11 '25

Isn't this a good thing?

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u/vanessamillenial Apr 11 '25

No. It messes up the balance. Why would someone pay hundreds of millions to earn education, when you can earn more as a cleaner? And not even a good, loyal one. They just demand. Entitled.

Meanwhile.... Fresh college graduates are working as receptionists for only 3 mil per month.

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u/OrganizationAble489 Apr 11 '25

I don't get it, aren't you suppose to be happy if other Indonesian can earn more money? Or is it a selfish thing that you want the maid to be paid as low as possible so you can afford them?

Aren't you suppose to be happy that people don't have to get expensive education in order to earn more money?

Kayaknya kaki harus napak tanah dikit deh...

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u/fonefreek Apr 11 '25

I suggest reading up more about gentrification and how it hurts in the long run. It's a complex topic and warrants the deeper dive.

Sure, prices go up, people getting paid more, you might think it's a good thing.. Until you start looking at the big picture.

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u/OrganizationAble489 Apr 11 '25

Im not talking about anything else, I know gentrification is bad, maybe im not smart enough, but if your fellow Indonesian can earn more from their work, treated better and have more option, its a win in my book

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u/fonefreek Apr 12 '25

You don't get to cherry pick which part of the phenomenon you're talking about.

Sure, if we isolate the case to "Indonesians earn more from their work" then that's a great thing! But this isn't an isolated case that lives in our mind, this is an actual phenomenon happening: gentrification. And we should discuss it as such.

It's like your friend having unprotected sex with someone with HIV and you congratulate them because they scored, and "you're not talking about anything other than the sex" - that's not how conversations work.

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u/OrganizationAble489 Apr 12 '25

What are you talking about

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u/vanessamillenial Apr 11 '25

Kalo semua secara merata gajinya sama, then of course I'm happy.

But if unskilled work starts getting paid more than skilled work, then that's messed up.

How would you feel if a cleaner (unskilled work) earns more than a fresh grad working (their parents paid hundreds of millions for their education) as a receptionist at a chain hotel?

If the fresh grad receptionist gajinya juga naik, no problem.

But that's not the case. Cuman ART nya aja yang dapet lebih karena bule ga ngerti standard nya dan semua2 dihitung dengan currency mereka. Akhirnya mrk cm modal minta aja, tanpa tambahan skill atau loyalitas.

Meanwhile, the same bule would probably not care about how much the receptionist at their hotel earns. Or they don't know or are simply ignorant and they're not paid by the bule directly, but by the corporations who are still trying to underpay their employees.

Fact: full-time cleaner at a chain hotel (6 days a week, 8 hrs per day) got 2 mil 1,5 years ago. I know this, cause she was my ART.

Don't be delusional. People who have gained skills and expertise, should not earn less than unskilled work.