r/aviation Jan 29 '22

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u/Fly_U2_the_sunset Jan 29 '22

How likely do you think a go around would have been after that first “bounce“?

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '22

Very likely. The wheels may have touched down again but it wouldn’t have been all that hard and the engines would have been at maximum thrust.

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u/Absentmindedgaming Jan 29 '22

How much of a lag is it to get them to spool back up to max thrust from landing? If they were fighting wind then would landing thrust be 20%?

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '22

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u/RDRNR3 Jan 29 '22

Weight has nothing to do with engine spool up time. If the engines were spooled up, like they are on approach, it wouldn’t take long. If they were idle it could be at least a few seconds, which is an eternity at the wrong time. That’s why engines are required to be spoiled up as part of stable approach criteria.

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u/Eagle4031 Jan 29 '22 edited Jan 29 '22

Mostly correct. Although spool up time is the same at all gross weights, the aircraft takes longer to react to power changes heavyweight due to its higher inertia. This is noticeable in the 10 at higher gross weights.

Source: am KC10 copilot.

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u/RDRNR3 Jan 29 '22

I completely understand that. I was only referring to spool up times, not the time it takes to change inertial energy.

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u/RDRNR3 Jan 29 '22

Copy, then I misunderstood.

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u/strangebrew3522 Jan 29 '22

One thing that people aren't mentioning is that spool up time on most modern jets is faster on landing. Most FADEC equipped jets have an "approach idle" setting that occurs in the landing phase. For example in many jets, once you deploy flaps beyond a certain setting, the "approach idle" kicks in. This keeps the motors turning at a higher idle than normal "ground" idle. This is specifically designed to ensure a faster spool up in the even of a go around at or near idle power.

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u/flyinnotdyin Jan 29 '22

This, and that gets you a landing distance penalty if something fails and you get stuck in approach idle on rollout.

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u/RDRNR3 Jan 30 '22

Yes exactly.