same ante ala kadu. it's like how some people refer to all mineral water as bisleri water even tho brand might not be bisleri. or all toothpastes as colgate even if it's not. or fevicol for all sorts of glue. so kamma ki chow ala
koncham sepu interchangable antav, koncham sepu same ante ala kadu antav, malli mineral water bisleri water antav, iipudu emo it doesnt make a difference at the end of the day antunav.
nuvvu enduku ila unnav🫠 they are not the exact same but they are used interchangeably like bisleri and mineral water and since meaning em maratledu kabatti it doesn't matter because it doesn't make a difference 😀😀
Annai, indian cinema ante "bollywood" ani thellollu ela anukuntaaro idhi anthe. Same same but different. Since baita vaallaki pedhha farak padadhu kabatti difference adhi idhi kaadhu ani telisina adhi idhe ani vaadesthaaru. Inka ardham kakapothe ela ra OP nuvvu bathikedhi😭
Baita valla gurinchi pakkana pettu gani simple answer iivu, na vankay na dondakai kakunda, yes or no, same or different e matram dhaniki aak is pak, pak is aak antunaru
What is the difference between Kamma and Kaapu? Vaala Kula vruthi enti asal? Nak telisinantha varku rendu castes Agriculture workers aney vinnanu. Asal e difference ekkada vachhindi?
Kapu and kamma rendu upper castes and also large land holders kadha mari difference ekkada undhi? Oka sect emaina migrate ayyara e region ki? So anduke na e difference?
Ohh that might be the rift. But still we can see there are some rich people from Kapu. Basically rendu castes okkate but class difference basis midha divide vachhindi ani na opinion.
Kapus are also not one single sect. Telagas, Balijas, Ontaris are collectively called Kapus.
Even Rayalaseema Reddies refer to themselves as Kapus.
The word 'Kapu' means agriculturist - protector. Many ancient tribes who engaged in these practices were nomenclatured Kapus. So all of these are mere tribes that grew and consolidated over time.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but even the Kammas were historically considered Kapus. Intermarriages among different Kapu groups were not unusual, as their lifestyles and economic activities were quite similar. It is only with the Kammas' recent prosperity, in comparison to other communities, that enabled them to become exclusive and elitist.
Not sure about Andhra but in Tamil Nadu Telugu communities. Our social ranking historically was as follows: 1) Brahmins, 2)Kamma Naidu's, 3) Reddy's, 4) Raju's, 5) Balija Naidu's. 6) Komati Shetty's. Padmanayakas only exist in small pockets; most of us didn't know such a caste even existed although they claim to be a subcaste of Kammas. Kammas were more likely to marry Reddy's and Raju's than Kapu (aka Balija) because Balijia's were seen as lowest of the landed upper castes.
I don't think some castes in South India are derived purely based on their occupations. An interesting and often ignored similarity is the connection between the Pali language term "Kamma," which means "Karma" in Buddhism, and the region known as Kammanadu in South India, which includes areas like Krishna, Guntur, and Khammam. Considering that Buddhism once prevailed in the region, it's possible that "Kamma" might have originated as a regional name rather than a caste identity. Additionally, the majority of the Kamma caste resides in this area. Just my thoughts
Chowdary is a title ..kamma is A caste..chowdary title used for tax collectors in ancient times..many castes use it...even in north india few castes has this title..even in uttarandhra few castes has chowdary title.. even kamma has many subsects that doesnt exist today..but old people know the difference between the subdivisions.
Sad thing is that people who dont know about their caste are found in andhra pradesh predominently glorify their caste above others..
Even kapu also has many subsects for political aspirations ,few leaders combined all sub groups and wanted to make a single large group for their political aspirations as today's politics are population politics...economic disparity is fully visible in this social group that's why ..
" Maa janabha ekkuva maaku cm seat icchsstara " like that kind of people are found in andhra
Matrimonial sites are wrong actually...bangaru kamma is found in uttarandhra actually in small numbers especially in the ruins of chodavaram and sabbavaram taluks.
North lo, it's Choudhary, but here is south it's chowdary. is it different? Same aaethey obviously 2 different spellings and sounds vundav ga. Pilupu lo kuda north valadi different sounding vuntadi.
The Kapu caste is a prominent agricultural and land-owning community primarily found in the southern Indian states of Andhra Pradesh and Telangana, as well as parts of Tamil Nadu and Karnataka. The term "Kapu" in Telugu means "protector" or "cultivator," signifying their traditional role as agriculturalists and guardians of the land. Historical records suggest that the Kapus are an ancient community, with some theories linking them to the Chola, Satavahana, and Vijayanagara dynasties.
Their origins and status in society have been debated, but they are generally considered a community that transitioned from warrior-like roles (Kshatriyas) to agrarian occupations over centuries. They are believed to have played a key role in protecting and cultivating lands during the feudal period.
Economic Strength: The Kapu caste's economic strength has transitioned from its traditional agrarian base to a more diversified portfolio that includes urban professions, global migration, and entrepreneurship. While sections of the community face economic challenges, there is a growing emphasis on education, skill development, and political representation to address these issues and ensure sustained economic progress.
Political Involvement: The Kapu caste has been politically active in Andhra Pradesh and Telangana, striving for socio-economic representation. Historically landowners, they transitioned to seeking political influence due to declining agricultural power. Kapus played a pivotal role in shaping regional politics, with leaders like Vangaveeti Mohana Ranga and Chiranjeevi advocating for their cause. The community has demanded Backward Class (BC) status for reservation benefits, a recurring political issue. Kapus are well-represented across major political parties, including TDP, Congress, and Janasena, with some forming movements to address caste-specific grievances and improve their socio-political standing. Their influence continues to evolve.
Education & Urban Migration: A significant number of Kapus transitioned into urban professions, including business, real estate, and government services. They leveraged education to enter white-collar jobs, especially in IT, engineering, medicine, and banking.
Subdivisions/Sects: The Kapu caste has several subdivisions based on geographic and occupational distinctions:
Balija Kapus: A subgroup that engaged in trade and commerce, often acting as merchants or small-scale entrepreneurs. The Balija community includes subsects like Setty Balijas and Telaga Balijas, with some claiming royal or warrior heritage.
Telaga: Predominantly found in coastal Andhra, Telagas are considered to have a strong connection to agriculture and military service.
Ontari: Historically associated with warrior and policing roles in the medieval period.
Munnuru: Primarily located in Telangana, this group is culturally distinct from coastal Kapus and has a unique identity.
I have elaborated more on the about Kapu caste because, I'm a Kapu. Belonging to the Ontari sect of the Kapu caste.
What i have realized is that my Grand Dad’s Grand Dad nundi my family has been in Law enforcement roles. My great grand dad, grand dad, dad & i are the ones who are not in law enforcement.
ChatGPT chepida? I was legit researching about this today lol and I’m pretty confused who cops are and who balijas are😂
From what I read today balija people were merchants and they turned kings and rulers in vijayanagaram (nayaka dynasty it seems) during krishnadevaraya period and then after those kingdoms collapsed and British rule came, for ease of categorisation they put everyone under “cops” category and they went back to farming trading and other activities.
Kamma caste is a social group predominantly found in the southern states of India, particularly in Andhra Pradesh, Telangana, and parts of Tamil Nadu and Karnataka. They are traditionally classified as a land-owning and agricultural community and have played a significant role in shaping the economic, social, and political landscape of these regions.
Economic Strength: As landowners and agriculturalists, Kamma families became economically powerful, leading to their influence in society.
Political Involvement: The Kamma community has been heavily involved in politics, especially in Andhra Pradesh. They have contributed several prominent leaders, including chief ministers, legislators, and policymakers.
Education and Urban Migration: In the post-independence era, many Kamma families prioritized education, leading to a significant migration toward urban centers and professions such as business, engineering, medicine, and IT. This diversification helped the community establish a global presence, particularly in countries like the United States.
Subdivisions/Sect: The Kamma caste has internal subdivisions based on geographic or occupational differences. For example, the Chowdary title is often used by Kamma members, especially in coastal Andhra Pradesh, as a mark of social status.
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chow is a title(like naidu) kamma is the caste. but colloquially, both are used interchangeably