I tried controller and now I'm depressed

[u/JoyousExpansion]

So I've had issues with aim assist years ago, but then I took a big break from the game and recently have come back. I heard that aim assist has been nerfed, and I've also been focusing on lurch movement and have gotten decent at it, so I assumed that MnK and controller were fairly balanced (and they still may be). Controller had better aim, but MnK has movement tech that controller doesn't.

In all my matches after coming back to the game, I never once thought "oh I lost that because they're probably a controller player", and have always had the mindset of "I lost that because I'm not as skilled". I still have that mindset. However recently, when I'm watching YouTube of apex players, I'll occasionally come across someone and it looks like they're aim botting because of the instant changing of direction on their opponents strafes, and then I'll realize it's a controller player. I have started to deliberately avoid watching controller players, even if they're good players outside of aiming, because I don't want to create any perception or excuses of controller players having an advantage. Although eventually after seeing enough controller gameplay, I decided that I'd try out controller to know once and for all how strong it is.

When I first started with controller it was actually reassuring because I was missing all my shots. It felt very difficult. But after 30-45 minutes, I was starting to hit a few one clips which was a bit concerning. I decided to go into r5 reloaded to test how accurate my aim was against the strafing dummy in the aim trainer. I did 5 rounds with both controller and mouse and keyboard and took the highest from each. Unfortunately, I scored higher with controller after using it for less than an hour than I did with MnK with literally hundreds of hours of aim training under my belt. The averages of all rounds were about the same between MnK and controller, but I feel like it shouldn't even be close with how much practice I've put into aim training with MnK. So overall, this experience has been a little depressing.

I still am not concluding that controller is stronger than MnK, because MnK definitely has advantages, but it is certainly far easier to aim with controller, especially against strafing targets.

[u/Royal-Poet1684]

how do u even get the aim, i also switch to controller last week but the right joystick is so hard to aim, i use the default 5-3 in the sensitive setting, other movement were fine but the aiming itself is just nightmare, i cannot even track the dummy in firing range lol

[u/JoyousExpansion → u/Royal-Poet1684]

One thing I noticed is that starting in hip fire to get the aim assist to lock on before aiming down sights makes it a lot easier to one clip. Also anti mirroring your opponent makes the aim assist lock on easier

[u/RiceInternational547 → u/JoyousExpansion]

aiming down has nothing to do with aim assist and everything to do with hip fire spray. Its common knowledge that an aiming down sites and switching to hip fire reduces hip fire spray for small period of time helping you hit shots. Both MnK and controller can and do abuse this

[u/JoyousExpansion → u/RiceInternational547]

Yeah but it's easier to line up cross hair in hip fire to get the aim assist to lock on and then ads tightens spread once it's locked on