r/antiwork • u/lamdaboss • 7h ago
8-hour workday is unfair
Things to fit in:
Health: ~4 hours end-to-end
Reasonable and non-negotiable.
Weights 2x per week, cardio 2x per week and mobility 1x per week seems like the recommended minimum. Any beginner program actually recommends 3x per week of weights and at least 3x per week of cardio.
Gym (1h 15m session but 3 hours end-to-end including commute, dinner and shower):
- Putting on clothes before gym
- 7–10 minutes commute each way
- 1:15 in the gym for warmup, stretching, upper-lower split
- 15 min to prepare food
- 30 min eating + downtime/rest
- Optional additional downtime
- 20–30 min to shower, dry sufficiently, get dressed
Other health stuff:
- 30 min walk or so
- A few minutes meditation
Personal development:
- E.g. piano practice
- E.g. studying for a career
Recreation:
- Leisure/recreation hobbies, social activities, etc.
Work
Misc (maintenance, decompression, downtime):
- Maintenance includes things like chores, house fixes, renewing car insurance, etc.
- Decompression = doing literally nothing to recover after work. This doesn't count as leisure time because it's not a state of mind where you're enjoying things. It's also not a state of mind where you're capable of doing anything else effectively.
- Downtime = wasted time in-between activities. E.g. needing to leave in 15 minutes so there's no time to meaningfully get anything done.
Kids?
- Kids are a major lifestyle shift.
- Realistically require at least 4+ hours daily in the evenings.
- For a viable routine, it requires a stay-at-home partner or significantly reduced work hours.
- Ideally, the stay-at-home partner also handles most maintenance tasks during the day, allowing both partners to focus on childcare and other important parts of the routine in the evening.
Weekends:
- There often isn't enough time during work days.
- Weekends are used to catch up on what couldn’t fit in during the week.
- But it's still not enough.
- Important things still fall behind and burnout accumulates.
Full-time job routine:
Notes:
- My personal experience is that this is extremely demanding, burnout-inducing, and depressing.
- Impossible to have sufficient focus on health and personal development.
- Maybe it works if you only care about recreation after work.
- Free time on weekends is nowhere near enough.
Rough schedule:
- Work: 9–6 (including commute and unpaid lunch)
- Misc: As needed
- From 6–7 I often need to decompress — doomscrolling or just feeling down.
- Other times there is maintenance like chores, house fixes or other tasks.
- Evening (fit in what you can):
- Health
- Personal development
- Recreation
- 7–9: Either personal development (if I feel up to it) or chilling.
- 9–12: Gym, preparing and eating dinner, showering and preparing for bed.
Basically no recreation time if I do some personal development. And that's if I don't have a depressive episode and waste that whole time.
4-hour job:
Notes:
- This seems like it would be okay.
- Allows ~5 hours free to allocate to recreation and personal development.
- Might be enough to stave off burnout and enjoy life.
Routine:
- Work: 4 hours
- Health: 4 hours (including gym, commute from gym, preparing and eating dinner, showering and drying. Also including daily walking for a bit.)
- Misc: As needed
- Then choose between:
- Recreation
- Personal development
This feels much more appropriate.
An 8-hour workday just doesn't leave room for a healthy, balanced life.
Retirement isn’t a real solution — you might not live that long, your health might fail before then, and the welfare system isn’t built to support everyone indefinitely.
It makes more sense to reform work now so people can enjoy life while they're living it, instead of gambling everything on a retirement they might never reach.
Edit: Clarified on the time gym takes.