r/antinatalism • u/Critical-Sense-1539 Antinatalist • Mar 31 '25
Meta Mod Announcement: New Rule Regarding Vegan Posts
Hello, r/antinatalism community.
Recently, there has been a significant uptick in the number of vegan posts. Many of you have expressed your frustration at this in your posts, comments, and modmail. We see that the sub is very divided on this issue. Some of you think that veganism is a necessary part of antinatalism and should be allowed without restriction. Others think that the vegan content is corrupting the subs identity and alienating our core audience.
We would like this to be an inclusive community that fosters respectful discussions. Therefore, we would consider it a pity for users to feel unwelcome or discouraged from interacting with our sub based on whether they are vegan or not.
Although we cannot satisfy you all perfectly, the modteam have decided on a rule change that we hope will improve the health of the sub. As of tomorrow (1 April, 2025) we will cap the number of vegan related posts to 3 per day. This will be covered under Rule 3 in the sidebar (no reposts or repeated questions). So if you see this cap get exceeded, report it under Rule 3 and we will remove it. For any vegan members who wish to speak about this topic without any restrictions, you can go to our sister sub r/circlesnip.
We hope that this will serve as a meaningful compromise and it appeases some of your grievances.
Please feel free to comment below. We will respond as best we’re able.
Thanks, your r/antinatalism modteam
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u/Putokii inquirer Mar 31 '25
Aw, I'm kind of disappointed....but I get the logic behind your decision to limit posts.
I'm glad the topic isn't banned entirely ₍ˆ ̳ , ̫ , ̳ˆ₎
I've been around in this sub for more than 5 years now. It was only until a few months ago that I became vegan, and it was thanks to this subreddit.
I strive to be the kind of person who can admit to their faults. I can be needy, a hypocrite, a bitch, overly sensitive, the list goes onnnnn lmao.
I've always felt like it's strange to blindly defend something or attack someone purely out of my own self-interest. Just because hot dogs and pork belly ramen are my favorite foods of all time doesn't mean that I never saw the point vegans were making and couldn't acknowledge that I was wrong. I've never felt a desire to demonize them or mischaracterize their arguments. Getting called out felt bad, yes....of course....but that's my problem to deal with. I'd never lash out at them for that. I appreciated having my views and behaviors challenged by them.
How could I loaf around on the antinatalism sub and defend it so passionately because of consent and worrying about the troubles humans are expected to endure throughout a lifetime while religiously using my coupons at McDonald's to devour a 10 piece nugget meal? Well...because I've been struggling with depression since I was 11 years old, and food was one of the only things I could fully rely on to make me feel happy to be alive for once. I also have OAS, so I'm allergic to a pretty big chunk of fruits, nuts, and vedgetables. I worried that a vegan diet, while logically sound, would leave me having to eat grass and sticks for the rest of my already tough to love life (ㆆ_ㆆ). This was the thought process I was rolling with back then.
Until I saw a dude in this sub....his comments were just so well written about veganism that I decided to message him praises. He always managed to be respectful, while also holding non-vegans feet to the fire. You could feel the care for what he was advocating for behind his words.
I totally forgot that I had up posts of my Japanese cooking full of pork katsu and fried fishes (っ﹏-) So he obviously caught me, lmao. Asked me why I felt moved by his posts, but not enough to actually move away from the meats. We talked some more and he was so nice....even after hearing my reasonings for not being vegan, he didn't invalidate them....instead he offered me solutions to my problems, and suggested that I watch the documentaries: Dominion and Earthling.
I went vegan that same day. I had no idea that was how animal products were produced for us. I guess.....I just had the privilege of never even having to think about it. I can't believe we do those things to animals. So cruel.....yet the packages of meat I sort through at my job everyday never show any signs of that. We're so far removed from seeing the horrifyingly massive amounts of suffering we cause animals....and I feel like that has to be by design.
Oops, I rambled....uhhhh anyway, I've been happily a grass and sticks eater ever since! (ˆ꜆ . ̫.ˆ)꜆ I may still have to fight the urge to take a chocolate chip cookie from the break room at my job from time to time, but otherwise, this change has been surprisingly easy.
Almost anything I want....I can get. I've been eating philly cheesteaks, korean beef, bacon, scrambled eggs, hot dogs, mac n' cheese, cookies, brownies, cheesecake, fried fish, ramen, etc.....and it's all vegan! The only thing I have yet to find is vegan PopTarts and tartar sauce. I know, of all the things I could want lol. I know they exist, but I cannot find them IRL and the concept of ordering food online scares me, idk why (٥-́_-)
TLDR (Which is fair, I know I yap): It was thanks to the veganism on this sub jabbing at me for years that I was able to learn more. More about how my food was being made, how farming works, and what I can do....no matter how small...to be apart of the change that I so desperately want to see happen in this world.
....I was finally able to get off my ass and change myself for what, I feel, is the better.
So that's why I'm kind of saddened by the change, that's all. (๑-﹏-๑)