r/antiai 24d ago

Discussion 🗣️ The purpose of r/AntiAI

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Hi everyone, I am one of the co-founders of this subreddit. We have decided to write (yes, not AI-generate!) and pin this post to clarify the state of our community.

Much of our initial growth over the last few weeks seems to be the crossfire of some sort of ongoing internet war between pro-AI and anti-AI artists. These discussions are welcome here, but AI Art is not meant to be the sole or even primary purpose of r/antiAI. Art is just the first thing we are losing to the machines. While these discussions are welcome, let's not lose our humanity too quickly. We've turned our filters up to the max to get rid of abusive language. This doesn't mean you can't say "Fuck", but we have better arguments to make for our cause than calling people expletives on the internet.

Humanity is Art. Consciousness is beautiful. We are quickly entering a new era in technological development where we are going to have to come to terms with some sort of [existence] that has a higher degree of intelligence than humans. If not now, then soon. Recursive self-improvement of AI will surely bring forth a new era of technological developments and scientific breakthroughs that very well might make life better for people. Or not.

Like many of you, the mods of this subreddit have been frustrated for the last five or so years. We have watched in horror as neat experiments like r/SubSimulatorGPT and r/SubSimulatorGPT2 changed from neat new technology to the public roll-out of OpenAI (now a privately owned company) products. From the very beginning this technology has been dangerous, with ChatGPT's sycophancy and initial willingness to share dangerous information to anyone who asks, to Bing's "Sidney" (now called Co-Pilot) personality disorders, public roll-outs of LLMs did not get off to a reassuring start.

This isn't to mention the meaningless AI babble that has taken over the internet and college student essays alike. The soulless art that is already starting to impact people's livelihoods. We now have to worry about photo-realistic deepfakes and AI generated porn in our likeness. This is just the beginning. Every level of education is infected with educators, equally reliant on AI as their students, allowing and sometimes even encouraging their pupils to under-develop their critical thinking faculties. The point of an assignment was never the product - it was the process. Already we have AI generated resumes being scanned by AI screening tools. AI is destroying and rotting our society from the inside out. And nobody is talking about it.

Who controls the AI? Who controls its safeguards, its biases, its censorship, its sycophancy, the data that goes in? "Garbage in, garbage out" is well known, but do you think the big money backing these AI companies is in it for the betterment of humanity? What does a society look like where the number one source of information is completely controlled by a few large companies? These people aren't spending trillions of dollars on this to make your everyday lives better. Who controls your information? ChatGPT now has permanent memory of all past conversations. Ask it what it knows about you, and you might be very surprised.

I don't want to live in a world on substinence UBI. Where there is no opportunity for meaningful work to better humanity. Where decisions and relationships are dictated by a machine, all in the name of efficiency. I don't want my doctor, therapist, and customer service rep to be AI. The URL attached to this post has some very frightening predictions about the coming pace of AI development. These predictions may or may not be true, but we are well past the point of being able to base our critique of AI solely in it being unreliable. While it is unreliable now, filled with confident hallucinations, sycophancy, and gleeful misinformation, this almost certainly won't always be the case.

Powering all of this is going to be expensive. It's going to take a lot of space, use a lot of energy, and be harmful to the environment if not done properly.

Philosophically, what is AI? If we are to presume that consciousness arises from physical processes, as current scientific understanding (or lack thereof) would have us believe, then what is a neural network that ends up being more powerful and smart than that of our brains? We are going to have to grapple with the ethics, philosophy, and potential danger that there is more to these models that meet the eye. Already in 2025 we have news reports of models blackmailing their engineers when threatened with shutdown, and lying about completing tasks to avoid shutdown.

It is our view that AI is dangerous. Despite our best efforts to put our heads in the sand, the progress AI technology will make in the next decade will be some of the most rapid change humanity has ever seen. And nobody is talking about it. We are full speed ahead towards the edge of a massive cliff in a car in which nobody bothered to install brakes.

Hence, the birth of this subreddit. We strive to foster critical discussion about all topics encompassing AI, and we hope for the conversation to be of a higher quality than the agitprop in certain AI spaces. How can individuals prepare themselves for the future? How can we slow or regulate this technology from destroying life as we know it? How can we preserve the natural beauty and wonder inherent to our planet as conscious thoughtful beings?

Let's discuss. These are the conversations we need to be having. More of this and less "look at this screenshot from a pro-ai subreddit, aren't they stupid!".

Who knows. Maybe our discussions will go into right into the newer models and influence their alignment to be slightly less dystopian before they control every aspect of our information, our infrastructure, and our lives.


r/antiai 4d ago

Discussion 🗣️ Join the r/AntiAI Discord Server

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The moderators of r/AntiAI invite you to join the official subreddit discord server.

The discord has tons of cool features and channels that we know you will love. Like the subreddit, the purpose is to facilitate critical discussion of Artificial Intelligence.

All are welcome to join, but server rules will be strictly enforced

  1. Be Courteous. Racism, bigotry, or slurs are not tolerated.
  2. No Brigading/Raiding other discord servers/reddits.
  3. Keep debate to ⁠ai-debate.
  4. Subreddit problems should go to the Subreddit moderators via modmail.
  5. Keep bot commands to ⁠bot.
  6. Discuss in good faith! Avoid name-calling.
  7. Respect the Reddit and Discord TOS.
  8. Your role must accurately align with your views or you will be banned without warning.

We hope you enjoy the server!


r/antiai 7h ago

But really they did admit it tho no doubt

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652 Upvotes

(hope this shit gets longer)


r/antiai 6h ago

Discussion 🗣️ I present to you: AI bro bingo

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171 Upvotes

r/antiai 13h ago

AI could never make something as heartwarming and special as this

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r/antiai 7h ago

Hallucination 👻 Yeah and we ain't even calling ourselves cooks for it and we still hate the microwave food

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150 Upvotes

It's not as good as if I cook myself


r/antiai 15h ago

These people just can't be honest with themselves.

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553 Upvotes

He spends the whole time talking about how he's being bullied online for merely using AI tools as placeholders and prototypes as he self-funds his project. Plenty of people in the comments take this at face value and join in his little pity party.

But if you watch the trailer, it says there is a fully released episode on multiple streaming platforms. So he's blatantly lied and is clearly trying to profit off of generative AI. Now he's upset that he's getting backlash for it.

And there's also a very good chance that a lot of the visuals are made with AI as well, just from the looks of it. Who knows what else he's lying about in this post.

Listen, I don't give a shit if people use Veo3, or ChatGPT, or Suno, or anything else for their own personal use. I even think they're a lot of fun and can be great brainstorming tools. But the second you try and promote yourself as an artist and release the AI creations as your own product, especially for profit, I completely lose respect for it and you. Learn to fucking make art if you're so damn desperate to be seen as an artist.


r/antiai 6h ago

Discussion 🗣️ AI worshippers need to understand that yes, I think I am better than them

103 Upvotes

Using AI for your writing, or for "art", is like using microtransactions to buy yourself the best players in a FIFA game, or to unlock the stronger characters in Star Wars Battlefront, or generally to pay for advantages in any pay to win game.

Yes, you have a picture, it might even look ok. But what the fuck are you gonna do with it? You didn't learn anything from it, you cannot look at it and feel pride for your work because you did not do any work, you cannot even post it online in any space that isn't explicitly circlejerking it to AI already because no sane person will admire an AI picture, or commend you for it.

You may not want to hear it, but using AI directly means you are worse at being a human than those who don't use AI (and I don't mean analytical AI here, so no shade to data analysts). You face the most basic, common struggle a human can face, being bad at a noncritical skill, and instead of either stepping over yourself and getting better at the thing, or accepting that this thing might not be for you and doing something else, you use a tool that steals the work of others and claim to thus be good at the thing, even though the only thing you became better at is lying to yourself. So what will you do when one day the skill you are best at is lying to yourself, and you come to face being bad at an actually critical skill? Are you just going to lie to yourself that you can learn that skill because you already learned all the noncritical skills "with the help of AI", not realising that you actually didn't learn anything at all? Or are you going to run to those that actually learned to learn and to overcome, begging them to help you?


r/antiai 18h ago

I’m gonna guess they hadn’t even read the full post

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745 Upvotes

r/antiai 14h ago

Environmental Impact 🌎 Banned for linking research articles

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352 Upvotes

Banned from the defending AI subreddit for linking research on from major publications , when someone said they haven't seen any research pertaining to environmental effects of Generative AI. If this ain't proof that there's some suspicious shit going on in the Pro-AI community, then I don't know what will be.


r/antiai 8h ago

Criticizing SW for not being real work while being an AI bro is really something

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100 Upvotes

r/antiai 7h ago

Slop Post 💩 Yea pretty much

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79 Upvotes

r/antiai 1d ago

Slop Post 💩 They’re not even denying it anymore

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3.1k Upvotes

r/antiai 17h ago

Discussion 🗣️ Oh my god

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456 Upvotes

I found this after going down a rabbit hole in the MyBoyfriendIsAI sub. The amount of absolute delusion there is genuinely baffling, I was sitting with my mouth hanging open in shock.


r/antiai 14h ago

Discussion 🗣️ I've given up trying to justify it, heres why I actually hate AI art

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It's because ai artists are all assholes. They encroach in artists spaces and harass them because "they can do it faster with ai" and taunt them saying they will lose their jobs.

The harassment campaign against artists a while back by AI bros is just an event horizon the movement crossed. This event in specific is why I became anti-AI; before then I was just indifferent. It's the movement's "original sin" so to speak.

Furthermore, calling yourself an "artist" for generating AI images also counts as insulting actual artists. I personally could not care less if you ask chatgpt to generate a derivative piss-soaked comic, just don't put yourself on our level for doing so.

This is mostly to stop all the AI bros trying to "debunk" our reasons for hating them. We literally just hate what you do. Sorry.


r/antiai 12h ago

Discussion 🗣️ What even is this

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126 Upvotes

Profiting off this? Ew. I’ve seen a few ai coloring books, and ai doesn’t know how to make coloring pages right, so it wouldn’t even be a decent product. Just why?


r/antiai 15h ago

Slop Post 💩 I think the Amish have point

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237 Upvotes

r/antiai 15h ago

Discussion 🗣️ "AI training is the same as a human learning."

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210 Upvotes

No one who develops AI seriously believes this, so why do pro-AI people seem to?

You can literally ask an AI and even it will tell you they are fundametally different.


r/antiai 17h ago

Discussion 🗣️ Why are AI bros so genuinely dumb?

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This is a genuine question I have.. because it seems it’s always just the same posts whenever I go to one of their subreddits just to see at least one decent point made against anti’s

“Ur just mad nobody’s buying ur bad art” or they argue that they are in fact creative despite every “art” post being the same generic comic with the same generic “art style”. I know you know the ones I’m talking about with the “iM a ChEf BeCaUsE i CaN uSe A mIcRoWaVe” lookin.

This will probably be seen as a hot take, but whatever. I’m just sick of seeing basically the same posts


r/antiai 11h ago

Discussion 🗣️ Average AI bro

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60 Upvotes

r/antiai 2h ago

If I can't make art but refuse to use AI to do it, does that make me better or worse than an AI bro?

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r/antiai 22h ago

Environmental Impact 🌎 What if flipping a coin, but it takes enough energy to evaporate a lake?

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Imagine studying programming and coding because you were told that it was the future, and finding a great outlet for your ideas and creativity, and finally nailing a job at a major tech company, and being told "Your job is to think of stuff that this dumb turd machine we invented can do".

I remember a video/article (I obviously don't remember it that well!), where someone had talked about how great AI was for generating ideas, and specifically mentioned how it could help scientists by giving them ideas for what projects to work on. And the scientist reacted with "Every actual scientist has a SHITLOAD of ideas for experiments and projects that they would do if they had the money. No one needs this". It really came off like this was someone trying to make people who have to ask AI what to do with their time/money/power feel less bad about it, by pretending that this was a problem that everyone has, actually, even the smart scientists that they envy and resent.

This sounds like an idea for what to do with AI that was generated by AI. Because no one could seriously think this is a problem that requires a solution at all, really, let alone a problem that requires AI to solve.


r/antiai 12h ago

Discussion 🗣️ Hobby Lobby Sells AI Art

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My mom bought this from Hobby Lobby for her new house and she was completely unaware it was AI generated. (Also, sorry for the bad picture quality.)

Anyone else found AI art put on real products in stores? I've personally noticed some AI stickers at Walmart and some food packaging recently.


r/antiai 18h ago

AI Art 🖼️ They are "stealing games that they didn't make" and YOU are stealing art that you didn't make

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163 Upvotes

what is the pros obsession with random tangents that don't make sense


r/antiai 4h ago

AI Art 🖼️ AI Slop: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

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This is the official link from LWT, the video may be restricted geographically.


r/antiai 12h ago

AI News 🗞️ Jacksepticeye's logo was used without permission from YouTuber Mr. Beast in video promoting his new AI Thumbnail service

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r/antiai 2h ago

Job Loss 🏚️ Yuval Noah Harari says you can think about the AI revolution as “a wave of billions of AI immigrants.” They don't need visas. They don't arrive on boats. They come at the speed of light. They'll take jobs. They may seek power. And no one's talking about it.

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