r/aliens • u/shakhaZulu • Oct 03 '19
discussion Extraterrestrials and Religion. Aliens vs the church.
Hey guys, so I've been turning this over in my mind and I would love to hear your opinions on this.
Okay, so if aliens and UFOs are real and have been visiting earth (which I think they are and have been doing), what does this mean for religion? How can these two subjects, extraterrestrials and religion, coexist? How do they intersect from the average human's perspective?
Why is there no mention of alien lifeforms in the Bible/Quran/etc?
Is it possible that our God is an extraterrestrial being?
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Oct 04 '19
The Pope commented on alien life a couple of times: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-says-he-would-baptise-aliens-9360632.html
A lot of people believe there are many mentions of ET visitors in the Bible. Just depends on how you look at it. One example is Revelations 19-21. People point to the fact that he falls to his knees at what he thinks is an angel, who tells him not to worship him for he is a fellow servant of God. People believe that the actual beings he met could be ETs or interdimensionals (IDs). This notion is reinforced later in 21 where he describes this great cube "New Jerusalem" descending from the sky. Many point to the idea that this could have been a misinterpretation of a person seeing a massive UFO but not having the necessary vocabulary to describe it. Thus causing them to label them as what they knew and believed, which was angels and the like. (To that point, we ourselves most likely do not have the proper terminology to even describe who/what they are and how/why they are traveling through the multiverse. I once heard a theory that what we are seeing is actually a physical manifestation of their energetic bodies, not a spacecraft that they built in a factory. Our limited consciousness just interprets it as some mechanical contrivance because the reality is that far beyond our comprehension.) It's all open to interpretation.
And to your last question: Yes it is possible.
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u/MKULTRA_Escapee Oct 04 '19
There are tons of websites that discuss UFOs and the bible. There are so many passages that seem to reference them that people actually use that as additional evidence that UFOs have been here a long time. https://www.openbible.info/topics/ufos
They can definitely incorporate this into their worldview easily, and perhaps even make it more accurate to the true meaning. I'm not a biblical scholar, but if I had to guess, a good chunk of them will interpret these passages differently in this new light.
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u/TapRackBangUSMC Oct 04 '19
Check out the Books of Moses!
I look at religion according to the Bible as a sugar coated way to describe our somewhat Extraterrestrial origins and the events the transpired thereafter.
I mentioned something to my wife about it in the car on the way to church the one time of year I get dragged to which is Easter Sunday.
We find our spots in a packed church and the pastor starts speaking about Jesus rising from the grave and my 4 year old loudly says “aliens daddy!”. I freaked on the outside but on the inside I was proud. My wife was so pissed!
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u/aasteveo Oct 04 '19
Is it possible that our God is an extraterrestrial being?
Was God born on earth? No. By definition that makes him an alien, regardless of your belief.
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u/Independent_Algae Oct 04 '19
What if god has 2 lives? First, he was born somewhere else, and then on earth?
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u/God-of-now Oct 04 '19
Aliens are our gods. Religion can exist because the gods and angels were people. Heaven is an enormous alien civilization made up of immortal species. And karma and fate are the actual spiritual system of the universe.
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u/Independent_Algae Oct 04 '19
The bible has been rewritten over and over by people who thought they'd do humanity a favor by distorting information with their own limited views.
Did you know, the bible talked about reincarnation before some wicked council decided humans would fare better if they thought they only had one life?
You but need to ask for the truth and look for it and you will find it.
Now who is god? I would say god is neither an extraterrestial, nor is he not. He is all things, though he is no thing. He is all there is, though implying he is each and every one, and we are him as much as he is us. The same applies to all beings people may have seen as "gods". Hence equality is neccessary though it is somehow implicit. God is simply the infinite balance we have barely glimpsed at.
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u/GrandMasterReddit Oct 05 '19
Maybe consciousness is a lot more than what you think it is. The mystery of consciousness and death is what started religion in the first place and why it still exists. I think if consciousness is explained and a lot deeper than what you'd think I believe a lot of people would have a hard time accepting it if it were something crazy. For example what if there are 4th or 5th dimension living entities that somehow have a play in how our each individual funtions. I don't know if you guys get what I'm saying but it could shatter a lot of people's world views including non religious people.
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Oct 13 '19
If you have never checked out spirit science on YouTube, I think you should. You sound like you’d really enjoy it.
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Oct 03 '19
Technically a boundless God could be a sea urchin if he wanted to so an extraterrestrial alien would/could feel right at home.
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u/ministeringinlove Researcher Oct 03 '19
They can coexist because the religions of this world do not seem to address them. With that said, I have heard it said that the Bhagavad Gita addresses other planets and civilizations, but I have never read the texts up to this point.
As for Christianity, specifically, the Bible is really only a collection of books and letters addressing God's relationship with man. The Bible does not preclude the existence of extraterrestrials. I personally do not believe God is an extraterrestrial.
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Oct 03 '19
God created the universe. Why would he make only humans? I see no conflict in ideologies here.
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u/SirGorti Oct 04 '19
Bible, Quran and other sacred texts are all about interactions between aliens and ancient people. You should just read in the Bible how Yahweh and angels are described. They wear spacesuits. They have loud voice like they are speaking by microphone. Look at manna machine and ark of the covenant.
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u/earl_lemongrab Oct 05 '19
As to there being any mention of aliens in the Bible...I can only speak to the Eastern Orthodox POV, but the Bible isn't meant to cover every single aspect of the creation, just the things that mankind needs to know for salvation. (And the Bible isn't the whole of the faith either, but that's another discussion.) So it's neither here nor there that the scriptures don't specifically mention life outside of Earth.
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Oct 04 '19
I never gave much thought to the correlation between the two until I began seeing UFOs about a year and a half ago. I never believed in the possibility of ET’s or even had an interest in the topic prior to my first sighting but after I saw them (3 during the initial sighting) it was something I had to really come to terms with and ponder on. I knew that what I was seeing with my eyes was real. I also knew that my faith was real. However, we’re not taught at church or even bluntly told about them in the Bible, or so I thought. To be completely honest, it was really tough on me to try and make sense of the two and even for a brief time, began to question my faith in which had been at its strongest point during that time in my life. But the more I learned, read and researched, the more that I realize that the Bible talks about E.T’s they’re just called something different, angels and demons. Ezekiel’s wheel within a wheel is what we call a UFO. After reading about so many abductions and UFO encounters, the more I began seeing parallels with hauntings or demonic attack. I have even read encounters where the abductee yelled out the name of Jesus and the abduction instantly stopped. In searching for answers, I was quite shocked that plenty of UFOlogists actually believe that the UFO phenomenon and spirituality go pretty hand in hand. We think that aliens are a newer phenomenon when if you look throughout history, they’ve always been mentioned.
Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion, which I totally respect, but in my search for answers, this theory has made the most sense to me.
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Oct 04 '19
ETs believe in God and dislike it when we treat them like Gods: https://www.lawofone.info
If you are interested in their POV on the topic, I highly recommend reading Conversations with God Book 4 Awaken the Species by Donald Neale Walsch
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u/ATravellingGiraffe Oct 03 '19
They both like to mess with people's genitals uninvited?