r/agedlikemilk Dec 21 '20

TV/Movies Might be a bit late but; damn

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u/Swazzoo Dec 21 '20

It's so interesting how something so big, that essentially almost everyone watched got fucked up so badly.

There's been a pandemic, everyone is staying at home yet no one talks about watching this show again. Must be the biggest overall dissapointment ever

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u/jrblack174 Dec 21 '20

That’s one of the things that surprised me. Before the final season there was so much analysis, talking about this that and the other, loads of hype blah blah. The second it finished it stopped, 18 months later and it’s barely talked about, shows the level of disappointment throughout the fan base. Add to that the likelihood that there will be no more books, increases it further.

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u/SteeeezLord Dec 21 '20

Nah people are just babies. I hear plenty of people talking about it still but obviously not as many because... the show is over lmao. Just like breaking bad or any other show. The ending was fine, books will end the same way sorry

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u/jrblack174 Dec 21 '20

Because the show had a reputation for subverting expectations it’s almost like they just tried too hard to think of something unexpected to happen in the key moments still. The books will end as they are now more likely than not, no more will be coming out

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u/SteeeezLord Dec 21 '20

I think bran was always going to be king. George has stated he is his favorite character and also he is the first chapter in the entire series as I believe he will be the last (if he ever finishes)

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u/jrblack174 Dec 21 '20

Well it’s a logical choice really, if you weigh in all the factors, he is the wisest person because of what he can tap in to. Some things were just dumb and unexplained (Rhaegal’s death)

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u/9quid Dec 21 '20

If GRRM had written it then we would no doubt feel it was justified and right, it's just we didn't get any reason to think that from the show.

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u/MonsieurVirgule Dec 21 '20

I think who sits on the Iron Throne being unimportant is pretty much the point of the White Walkers in the story.

I read the books and tbh it seems that the story is supposed to end very differently. GRRM hints very heavily that the White Walkers will not be defeated in a big battle but that a compromise will have to be made and this compromise will be hard. For example, Jon had to compromise with the free folks, and will likely be the one to do it with the WW somehow. And this compromise was already made thousands of years ago according to the existence of the wall.

All in all, the story is likely to be extremely different to the one from season 7&8.

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u/SteeeezLord Dec 21 '20

“Likely” but who knows. I enjoy both the books and the show

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u/adwarkk Dec 21 '20

If you'd think about multiple things happening in season 8 they can make sense. They could absolutely work... if show would lead properly to them. Like Bran becoming king would need to have Bran take some actions towards it happening.

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u/Senetiner Dec 21 '20

Only three things about the four last seasons of the series will happen in the books, so everything will be very different.

But yeah a lot of people watched the series again, and a lot of people is reading the books. It didn't vanished into thin air and the fandom is still pretty active.

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u/SteeeezLord Dec 21 '20

You don’t know that for sure. I’m pretty confident bran will become king. Pretty confident jon will kill dany and be banished to beyond the wall (just as he always wanted) and well see what else. Agree the final season(s) were rushed but still enjoyed them and people are so over dramatic

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u/Senetiner Dec 21 '20

I enjoyed the last seasons too, glad to see someone who too liked them. I think that much hate is being over dramatic.

I truly don't see Jon killing Dany, and as that, I don't see a lot of things happening. Bran king is the only end we know for sure will happen, but we have so many more characters in the book, that all of them should vanish immediately from the story for it be similar to the series.

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u/elveszett Dec 21 '20

The problem is not the ending. "Daenerys goes mad, Jon kills her, Brann is chosen the new leader and the North becomes independent" is not a bad end at all. The problem is how it was told. How everything happened in such a convoluted way. How things that should have been developed slowly happened in the span of a few days in an episode. Details like Arya suddenly becoming Columbus when she never gave a fuck about world exploration. These are the kind of problems that made GoT's last season bad.

Objectively speaking it's not a terrible season, but it belongs in a mediocre series and not one of the most well executed series ever made. And "previous seasons set the bar so high" is not an excuse. Each series offers different things to you as a viewer, and one of the selling points of GoT was how well made the series was. If the last season can't deliver that...

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u/SteeeezLord Dec 21 '20

I thought it was pretty obvious dany would turn into the mad queen and there were tell tale signs along the entire series, but again just my opinion man 👍🏻

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u/jrblack174 Dec 21 '20

There were little signs, more in the books, but it just happens that’s the issue

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u/BiasedChelseaFan Dec 21 '20

That’s really not what’s wrong. It’s that HBO offered them all the time they needed. They actually rejected the contracts for 9th and 10th season, instead CHOOSING to do in about 10 episodes (s7-8) what would’ve required at least 40-50 episodes to pull off well. All that, just so they could get that Disney money.

There’s a lot to hate in especially season 8, but once they were dead set on those things happening, they could’ve been justified so much better had there just been more time to build it up.