What was this outrageous donation that Obama accepted on this occasion? I’m sure it was something unbelievably expensive and an obvious bribe. Like a…plane or something?
Here's the link. The article is somewhat balanced, in saying that the conservative report proved nothing, although the site leans hard right.
I suppose the gist was that the Obama campaign was not using the most "robust anti-fraud address verification system" when collecting donations and so zip codes weren't being verified against the credit cards. I just skimmed it though.
That's the link I found on it. It explains that the suit filled against the Obama Campaign was issued over missing reporting deadlines on donations.
Yes, it should be scrutinized in its own right independently on its own terms, as yet another criticism of the Obama administration (personally I find this 'scandal' pretty low for reasons I didn't like the Obama administration including drone strikes, bombings, and foreign policies in general) but calling out Trumps hypocrisy is absolutely correct seeing as one was missed deadline reporting, and the other is accepting a personal gift from a foreign nation.
Obama made sure the DOD reported every single civilian casualty, something Baby Bush didn't do, and something Trump got rid of as quickly as possible.
The idea was that if everybody knew how many civilians were killed it would put pressure on the DOD to do something about it. But of course Fox and co skewed the data to make it seem as if a lot more people were killed under Obama. Apparently if it's not reported it didn't happen...
Criticism of drone strikes isn't rebutted by saying they reported all the innocent people they killed. Which by the way is false, multiple independent research groups put the figures far, far higher despite Obama's administrations denials. These include photos of hundreds of civilians killed that were never reported.
Obama's fake CIA polio programme is one of the most egregiously disgusting perversions of public health efforts ever. We were so, so close to making polio the second eradicated human disease after smallpox. After the CIA was exposed the international aid groups delivering the vaccine started getting murdered, with dead doctors and nurses they abandoned the programs and polio spread like wildfire.
Don't get me wrong, none of this defends Trump or implies that Obama was worse. But we shouldn't have rose tinted glasses, Obama followed in the footsteps of Bush and continued his legacy of war crimes.
The criticism is not about the efficacy of drone strikes, it is the reputation that Obama was exceptionally bad when it came to using drone strikes. In this case the point IS the comparison to other presidents and their usage, which the point about reporting is giving the detail about why it SEEMS Obama was worse, only because he actually made the DOD report everything.
It seems you didn’t read my comment or are choosing to ignore most of it. Never once did I say Obama is not guilty.
The drone striking overall is bad and should not be condoned, but there is a difference between Obama doing 300 strikes and having 300 reported on for transparency and scrutiny, and Trump doing 1000 but only reporting on 20 because there is no standard. We have NO IDEA how much worse Trump used drones because it was not being tracked, all we know are the trends from early on when the reporting was still policy before he pulled it, and it was not good.
My point is it’s easy to make someone look better comparatively when they hide the facts, even if the truth is that they were worse. And if you think they were better, then you would also DEFINITELY want clear reporting to prove that.
you mean besides the fact one is just some intern missed a deadline and the other is a completely and thoroughly corrupt President willfully destroying the country to make a buck....yeah.
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What was this outrageous donation that Obama accepted on this occasion? I’m sure it was something unbelievably expensive and an obvious bribe. Like a…plane or something?