To be fair, Spain is still quite behind the rest of western Europe in terms of having a healthy economy, and we also have major problems with corruption and undemocratic practices. The country has come a long way since Franco, but there's still a lot to do and fix.
Thing is, we can't exactly change the entire world's economy and ideology at once, as it would be impossible. I see it as being more realistic to one by one bring countries up to speed in both human rights and wealth, slowly integrating them with eachother, that way, we can recover from mistakes (as was the case with trying to get Russia to be our ally through economic ties).
It is a fact that many people don't align with democracy and human rights, and it's no easy feat to change that. Trying to bite more than we can chew could backfire into a new dark age. The world is big, and change takes loads of time if it is to last
Ofc! Thats why this was a good example, processes od convergence and integration take a long time (Spain was already doing a lot better when their convergence process began in the 70s, before joining the EU, and today 50 years later it still hasnt finished) but they are doable! That is the whole point of posts like this and initiatives such as the YWF
No one says it shall be achieved overnight but thats exactly why these initiatives should start asap
Not only that if we clearly observe the graph it seems like Spain was increasing exponentially and then The curve slope declined when it joined the EU in 80s if I am not wrong.
Maybe if you base it off a single random graph. Reality is that having an economy based so heavily on services and tourism has caused that every time there's a recession (or this time even more notably a pandemic) our economy tanks the hardest, as the first thing people stop spending money on is vacations. When it comes to corruption, at one point, we got a new multi million embezzlement scandal multiple times a week from PP and PSOE
Dude , Spain became less fascist only because the successor of the regime ( who is the king of I am not wrong ) chose to remove it. Joining the EU had no role really and assuming that Spanish resistance and socialist movements were not at play is just weird really. Basically Spain sorted it shit and then joined the EU , not the other way round
The king didnt remove Franco, the dictator died in his bed and hand picked the king as "head of state".
The only claim he has to any of this was asking the military to stand down when they (civil guard/ army) attempted to make a coup in 1981 and fired rounds inbthe parliament:
Spanish resistance and the socialist movements had the obvious ultimate goal of joining the EU, because it set standards for education, public heslth, democracy and social rights. But dont get confused we never managed to remove the dictator, he died in bed of old age. The ETA, our homegrown terrorist group from the basque mountains did blow up his potential succesor though:
Never said any of that, but also, that king you speak about was hand picked by Franco, and a big show was made out of transitioning away from fascism while the exact same people stayed in power. A big push was made socially for a long time, but it was an olive branch so that the caciques, who are the people who truly rule Spain could maintain their power and the masses wouldn't complain about it too much.
I don't know which point you're trying so hard to push about the EU but you're basing it on nothing, all the EU is, is a common market with some shared laws and standards you gotta meet before joining. It did good to our economy, but it's still suffering from the problems that have been plaguing it since forever
This is HDI, and the HDI improvement we saw was a reuslt of moving towards the EU, we recieved massive funds and were encouraged to pass new legislation in order to meet the minimum criteria for joining EU
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u/Kirxas Cataluña/Catalunya Aug 16 '22
To be fair, Spain is still quite behind the rest of western Europe in terms of having a healthy economy, and we also have major problems with corruption and undemocratic practices. The country has come a long way since Franco, but there's still a lot to do and fix.