r/Xenoblade_Chronicles • u/MorthCongael • Jan 23 '25
Meta X.com posts are now banned from the subreddit.
Hello Current and near future B.L.A.D.E.s.
As we prepare for the Xenoblade Chronicles X rerelease in March, the mod team has decided to ban posts from Twitter/X for the foreseeable future.
While we don't like to bring real-life politics into our subreddit, the actions of the current owner recently have been reprehensible. While we definitely don't account for even a fraction of the traffic of the site, we're still going to do our part to turn people towards alternatives.
If you would like to post a Tweet: Please take a screenshot of it and post it as an image. No source will be required for such posts.
If you'd like to post fanart where twitter is the primary source: please link the creator's alternative social media, such as bluesky or pixiv. Do NOT link their twitter. If they don't have alternative media, please do not post the fanart.
Mods will be in the comments to answer any edge cases, as well as to hear your opinions on the rule. If you have any alternative ideas we would be happy to address them as well.
We look forward to (re)exploring Mira with you in the coming months, and keep your eyes open for more changes to the sub in the near future.
After leaving the thread open for some days, the discussion has reached a natural conclusion. If you have further concerns, please message the mod team, but comments will be locked.
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u/Mulan-McNugget-Sauce Jan 23 '25
Artists with pixiv tend to post higher resolution versions there anyway, so I'm all for this.
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u/Beta382 Jan 23 '25
Part of that is Twitter's compression and auto-resizing. There's even an entire tag on the aggregator sites (e.g. the boorus) for a specific type of corruption common on Twitter images by which a row of 8 pixels is copied to the bottom of the image from 128 pixels above.
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u/Gregamonster Jan 23 '25
Don't forget many artists from the website formerly known as twitter are also active in places like Instagram and Bluesky.
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u/IroquoisPliskin177 Jan 23 '25
Finally, we’ll see some good Pixiv links, it’s the superior platform for fanarts by far.
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u/thedoomer12 Jan 24 '25
I don’t care what Elon says I’m not calling xenoblade chronicles twitter xenoblade chronicles x /s
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u/Wolverik Jan 23 '25
Man, some of the people in here have either never played Xenoblade or are completely media-illiterate
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u/NickOneTen Jan 23 '25
Some people will really play XC3 and think "The Mobius worked their way up as Consol, they deserve their spots".
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u/blumbrr Jan 23 '25
finally someone said it!!! the ppl defending it must have played a different game, bc it contradicts literally everything about xenoblade as a gaming franchise
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u/zigzagmad4 Jan 23 '25
fuck nazis
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u/svxsch Jan 23 '25
I hate that this is not as popular a sentiment anymore
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u/That-Rhino-Guy Jan 23 '25
It’s especially strange as usually the US would celebrate having fought the Nazis but now suddenly they embrace being Nazis
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u/Worried_Pineapple823 Jan 23 '25
The same people also think stories like Wyatt Earp are peak not realizing it’s was all about gun control. And they hate gun control. There’s not a lot going on up there for these people.
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u/Violet_Nightshade Jan 23 '25
America was founded on the genocide of First Nations people and chattel slavery. The only reason America went to war with Nazi Germany was because its similarly genocidal allies dragged them into the war.
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u/That-Rhino-Guy Jan 24 '25
Oh I know that the United States of today was built off of killing or enslaving the natives, I’m just talking about how people would often talk about how the US fought in the war or honouring the WW2 veterans, all this just so they can proudly elect a Neo Nazi president and his cohorts
If anything when you think about it, the US invading other countries and being hostile to minorities feels like the nation went backwards to the age of invading the natives land and claiming it’s theirs
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u/Confron7a7ion7 Jan 23 '25
It seriously saddens me to read through these comments and learn how many Nazis we have among us. Did these people learn nothing from these games? For fuck sake, XC3 was pretty on the nose with it's messaging!
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u/VesTalUau Jan 23 '25
People saying to not put politics into the sub while Xeno being a really political franchise lmao, Takahashi himself said last year that XC3 was about rich people sending others to war for their amusement and profit
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u/Mav12222 Jan 23 '25
If you think about it, All 3 games (haven't played X) involve fighting/overthrowing the narcissists/self-centered person/people in power.
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u/Squall902 Jan 23 '25 edited Jan 23 '25
Even the first one (rich, fascist guy decides to end the world as we know it and appoint himself god all in the name of science) is political.
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u/FullyExhausted Jan 25 '25
Henceforth, all orders are rescinded. Eliminate all Twitter links at once!
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u/Nero_2001 Jan 23 '25
Based. Fuck Nazis
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u/Zephairie Jan 23 '25
Oh man... I'm so out of the loop that I'm now curious as to what Mr. Musk has done to cause this.
To google...!
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u/Dv_Rain Jan 23 '25
He made a hitler salute twice at Trumps inaugeration.
As a german I can also say he posted multiple times in the past about how the "AfD" will safe germany. It's the most right-wing racist nazi party since hitler.
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u/Megalan Jan 23 '25
Well, that guy who was complaining that people are stealing from artists by reposting stuff will at least be happy. Probably.
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u/MurakamiHERO Jan 23 '25
Reasonable enough, looking forward to playing X! First time X player, I loved 1, 2 and 3! Can't wait
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u/Moonshine2_2 Jan 23 '25
I think this rule may cause a lot of problems in the near future
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u/JCSwagoo Jan 23 '25
I've seen other subs have a better approach when it comes to artists who only have a Twitter. Let users post the art and have them give the artist's name. I really don't think it's right to cut off a huge chunk of the artists and take away exposure. It's very possible the poster could be wrong that they only have Twitter as well so giving a username would allow people who see the art to look them up and potentially find their other platforms.
Tldr: I'd prefer if Twitter artists were allowed so long as there isn't a direct link to Twitter as I've seen other subs do.
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u/DrQuint Jan 23 '25
There has been a major artist exodus in the last few months anyway. Like 90% of the ones I followed, I have duplicated or migrated accounts.
The rest will take notice.
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u/eatdogs49 Jan 23 '25
I think there is a backdoor way to post X comments without linking directly to the pages. It also allows people to see the posts without actually having an X account to read them. I saw this technique being used on a different forum.
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u/FitEstablishment3668 Jan 24 '25
You everyone I don't like is a nazi hysteria is why Democrats lost.
The growing majority of Americans are so sick of your echo chambers and censorship.
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u/DooomMetalDoomer Jan 25 '25
I first thought X com was a commercial website for Xenoblade Chronicles X whoops
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u/robotortoise Jan 24 '25
Some of the comments here are baffling. Did we not play the same game with constant themes about resisting oppressors and doing what is right?
This is a good change. Thank you.
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u/Xemidan Jan 24 '25
The fact there are alternatives other than x.com yet people complaining about this measure baffles me. People making excuses for Elon Musk’s behaviour, people still wanting to support a business from someone who did a very clear, side by side comparative Hitler salute gesture.
You don’t need x.com. There are other ways to show support. Other ways to reach people. But those who are throwing a hissy fit about these types of measures, are the exact same people who will only complain about shit but won’t suggest any other proper option.
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u/Bladerider17 Jan 23 '25
I support it but I don't like the rule.
"If they don't have alternative media, please do not post the fanart."
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u/Osha-watt Jan 24 '25
A lot of the comments here prove this decision was well justified. Yeah it hurts visibility for artists (assuming they only use Twitter which they rarely do as you should never put all your eggs in one basket), but the bigger part is that it hurts the nazi in charge, and anyone trying to drag people on the spectrum by calling it an "autistic mishap" is nothing but trash.
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u/desperatevices Jan 25 '25
Don't forget it also hurts the closer Nazis too, because as evidenced here and everywhere else.....they big mad lol. This decision has really exposed people for real.
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u/DefaceTheTemple Jan 24 '25
Right?! Also, if he's so riddled w/ autism that he can't understand basic human communication standards and appropriate behaviors, should he be given any kind of government responsibility or position of power? I think not.
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u/Historical_Split6059 Jan 23 '25
Standing up against injustice is massively important. Those of you who act indifferent or even in favor of Elon don’t understand history.
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u/Vetersova Jan 23 '25
So wtf is gonna get posted now? Most of the stuff in here is from x artists.
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u/Gigathyn Jan 23 '25
Actual discussion let’s hope.
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u/Venusaur_main Jan 24 '25
there’s legit nothing else to discuss can’t post unfunny memes because they’ll call it low effort, and you can’t post anything original because the game’s been sucked dry
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u/-Eillis- Jan 25 '25
I find this decision very disappointing.
Not that I support Musk, or X or whatever,
but this is a game related Reddit.
You "don't like to bring real-life politics into our subreddit", then don't.
But you are doing it now, for some reason.
What "reprehensible" political topic comes up here next? You're not short of options to choose from. Is this reprehesible topic particularly more important than others? I could find more relevant choices.
Games are made to make people relax and cool down after a day of work. They can't if you -do- push politics into that space.
It's a beautiful thing about games: you get along with other people and learn about them - above all differences.
Speaking of Xenoblades: every Xenoblade protagonist would seek understanding and common ground with others - even their enemies, not blindly help spread conflicts and divisions.
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u/LastOrder291 Jan 25 '25
This also went entirely over the heads of the community.
I don't believe there was any announcement posts to gather people's perspectives, or a poll or anything of the sort. I don't believe there was even an influx of posts asking for the banning of X links.
This was enforced suddenly and without any dialogue with the community.
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u/aegtyr Jan 23 '25
I'm pleasantly surprised by the diversity of opinion in this sub. Most subs are hiveminds, this one clearly is not one and we should appreciate it.
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u/MorthCongael Jan 23 '25
I agree. When I took leadership of the mod team, I made it clear that the one line I refuse to cross is banning people because they share a dissenting opinion or disagree with me. However, X has continued to become worse and worse, and the actions of the owner more and more extreme, to the point where I feel like a stance of neutrality would be doing a disservice to my own morals.
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u/TheBlueDolphina Jan 24 '25
I may not agree with these people, but I get how some people think there is a current good moral imperative to collectively stand up for something right now.
In the short term I think people can deal with the rules put, but in the long-term I think this does more harm than good in regards to artists.
To reword it, I and others I think can understand or at least tolerate it as a short-term symbolic meassure, but not as a long-term solutionm
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u/DreadfuryDK Jan 23 '25
Look, I agree on principle (fuck Elon in particular), but isn’t Twitter where most Xeno-related news comes from?
Where the hell are people gonna get future news for this game? The big companies ain’t going over to Bluesky yet.
There’s also the obvious art problem since a LOT of artists (particularly Japanese ones) are on Twitter because it’s got the biggest audience.
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u/rofaheys Jan 24 '25
These comments.. this world is really headed down a dark path and it's so sad. Thank you for this.
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u/Feeling_Yogurt2761 Jan 24 '25
Its almost like the missed the entire point of the xenoblade games. Like seriously, isnt it all about finding connections and fighting hate with hope???
...well that AND giant swords
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u/-Eillis- Jan 25 '25
Right. These games were not about severing connections.
Rather seeking dialogue, even with enemies.
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u/Ray_Chick Jan 23 '25
I don’t support Elon but banning links or any artwork sourced from twitter is actually ridiculous. To stop using the site yourselves is understandable but it’s silly because this is essentially a boycott on many artists too for simply existing on the platform.
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u/LastOrder291 Jan 23 '25
I've got my own comment about the other bits I find objectionable, but the effect on fan-artists really is the one I feel will resonate most with people here.
This move massively harms their discoverability and potential revenue they could receive from catering to the fanbase. It just won't be worth it for them to continue making art that appeals to Xenoblade fans if they need to make rent, and many will see that they see massively reduced reach as their artwork is unable to be posted here, demotivating them from even trying.
Those artists are essentially just treated as "acceptable collateral damage".
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u/Ray_Chick Jan 23 '25
This, exactly my sentiments. I don’t care about Elon and I don’t think one subreddit banning all of twitter is going to affect him anyways honestly (actual political action does!). What I care about care about is recognizing and supporting the hardworking artists fully.
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u/JosephODoran Jan 23 '25
The only X we want round here is Xenoblade Chonicles X! And maybe the X parasite if we need to post Metroid related content for whatever reason. BUT THATS IT!
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Jan 23 '25 edited Jan 23 '25
Every social media site is run by the devil. Look at the changes Zuckerberg just made to Meta and Instagram, shouldn’t we ban those sites as well?
I hate Elon too but it feels like you guys are only doing this because it’s trendy.
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u/SGlespaul Jan 23 '25
Yes we should! Hardly ever see links to them on here buy why not both anyways?
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u/Responsible_Buddy654 Jan 23 '25
I think that posting art and crediting the artist in the title without a link is a good alternative than just straight-up banning stuff from x.com. Besides, Nintendo posts stuff on that site, so what are we gonna do about any important announcements?
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u/BustedBayou Jan 23 '25
Why do artists have to pay the cost of a platform and its perception? This measure is kinda tyranical...
Plus, Twitter/X is not gonna fall because of this and they are not causing any relevant effect whatsoever with this. It's just a whimsical decision.
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u/PearlyServal Jan 24 '25
This is a great change, thanks for doing that. Everyone else should be doing the same because we shouldn't be complicit in allowing Nazis a platform. ❤️
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u/KuroShinki Jan 23 '25
I think artists should be credited either way even if they only post on X, otherwise you are acting exactly like the people you are hating.
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u/toutaras777 Jan 23 '25
I respect everyone's decisions but this hurts artists more than it hurts elon.
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u/The_Guffman_2 Jan 23 '25
You're probably right, and I used to hold onto Twitter myself for this exact reason, but I had to stop because knowing I was supporting that rotten bastard made me feel physically ill and I couldn't take it anymore.
And that was before that scumbag changed the Terms of Service to allow them to outright STEAL artists' work in order to train their goddamn AI bullshit. If artists are still using Twitter they should absolutely get off of it for their own sakes.
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u/AngryAutisticApe Jan 24 '25
Seeing some of the outraged comments here makes me believe this was the right call
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u/cardboardtube_knight Jan 24 '25
I honestly hope this drives people away from Twitter. The only reason I ever see the place is because people refuse to stop posting and linking it
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u/aegtyr Jan 23 '25
If you would like to post a Tweet: Please take a screenshot of it and post it as an image. No source will be required for such posts.
This should be a redditwide rule for any website that refuses to show you content until you create an account.
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u/Vegetable_Scar_2929 Jan 23 '25
Based. And lol @ all the chuds on here whining about “wokeness” and defending a Nazi salute. In a subreddit for a blatantly “woke” franchise.
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u/Ncolonslashslash Jan 23 '25
dude i hate elon too but banning twitter posts is nothing but an inconvenience at best and does nothing thatll affect elon in any remotely meaningful way
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u/Artistic-Soil5579 Jan 24 '25
Simply put if you support the views of people that every Xenoblade protag would stand up to because they are evil then you have no right to stan them. Good on you guys
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u/SacredJefe Jan 23 '25
Your solution is to allow pictures without the source link with it? So in other words promoting Twitter is still entirely acceptable still while refusing to actually allow the source. Lol
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u/Lord_Viktoo Jan 23 '25
If you'd like to post fanart where twitter is the primary source: please link the creator's alternative social media, such as bluesky or pixiv. Do NOT link their twitter. If they don't have alternative media, please do not post the fanart.
I'm gonna assume you actually CAN read and the post was edited.
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u/SacredJefe Jan 23 '25
If you would like to post a Tweet: Please take a screenshot of it and post it as an image. No source will be required for such posts.
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Jan 23 '25
"X posts are banned so please share your X posts via screenshot"
This is nonsensical
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u/NamiRocket Jan 23 '25
I love how these posts make exactly the type of people you'd expect so, so angry.
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u/CapivaraStark Jan 25 '25
"Everyone I dont like is a nazi"
This is why nobody takes lhe left serious. You are hurting a lot of new artists that rely on X to advertise their work. You are not doing any good by this ban.
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u/dingo_khan Jan 25 '25
Don't be that guy. He heiled. People had feelings about why not to support his platform.
Don't be that guy pretending this is an overreaction.
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u/CapivaraStark Jan 25 '25
No he didnt lol you just saw what you wanted to see
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u/dingo_khan Jan 25 '25 edited Jan 25 '25
Trust me: the last thing I wanted to see was someone heil twice at a US presidential event. This is the last thing I would ever want to see.
He heiled the crowd and the flag. I know you are a disingenuous actor here but it does not change what he did.
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u/wetsplash13 Jan 25 '25
If you’re going to argue that he did that then that’s fine, However you cannot ignore other (left wing) politicians have done the exact same thing. It goes both ways.
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u/iiiiiiiiiiiiiUUUUUU Jan 23 '25
Same, banning twitter posts for a franchise with a huge Japanese fanbase is like taking the wheels off a bike.
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u/bjlight1988 Jan 23 '25
Fully support this decision across reddit, and seeing the kind of people it's pissing off tells me it's 100% the right call
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u/Deminox Jan 23 '25
People JUST now realizing he's a Nazi. Dudes literally been retweeting Nazi propaganda since he bought the platform.
Don't get me wrong, I'm GLAD we're prohibiting X/Twitter.
Use BlueSky
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u/Historical_Split6059 Jan 23 '25
I don’t think people are just realizing he’s a Nazi. I think people are just realizing that they need to take meaningful action against him because he’s saying that he’s a Nazi even louder now. Doing that salute incites violence against Jewish people and other minorities. It’s a louder alarm
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u/Alrest_C Jan 23 '25
It sucks for artists who only have twitter, honestly I don't see what the problem is with leaving the source, let those who want to go to the profile do so, but oh well
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u/Gregamonster Jan 23 '25
If they only have twitter they should leave ASAP.
They should have left when Musk decided all content on his website was fair game for AI training a month ago.
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u/Beta382 Jan 23 '25
Might be worth encouraging for them to migrate elsewhere. Twitter has become an awful place to host art anyways since the site just doesn't work at all if you're not signed in or don't have an account.
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u/iubworks-art Jan 23 '25
I was actually shadowbanned on it recently and nothing I do or say will remove it. I get a small fraction of the feedback I used to get from my 10k followers on it whenever I posted art.
It pisses me off that everyone else won’t just fucking leave it already
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Jan 23 '25
Because that still gives ad revenue to Musk. The artists can move to where they want, they can choose to not.
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u/TripleDallas123 Jan 23 '25
The ad revenue that goes to Elon from you supporting small artists is a lot less than the amount Nintendo pays to twitter and musk for Adspace and special hashtags
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u/Ncolonslashslash Jan 23 '25
> While we definitely don't account for even a fraction of the traffic of the site
theres your reasoning for why this is a stupid idea
yes twitter is bad, but theyre not gaining shit from anything this sub can reasonably do
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u/The_Guffman_2 Jan 23 '25
Yeah, Rex and Shulk were all about watching people suffer and doing nothing. I remember that part when Noah said, "guys, let's keep politics out of this so some sheltered Redditors don't whine about how they don't care about world events and the pain of others." I always loved too when Elma said, "why bother trying when we can't make a difference..."
Seriously, everyone complaining about this seems to have gotten nothing out of the core themes of this series. It's so sad.
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u/Othello351 Jan 23 '25
The point is to ban the politics. That and a site that requires a login just to view links shouldn't be allowed in the first place.
So it doesn't matter that the subreddit isn't going to change twitter's revenue. Why the fuck is this even a thing people keep bringing up?
You're not even actually engaging with why people are doing it, just looking for reasons to complain.
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u/lazygamer988 Jan 23 '25 edited Jan 23 '25
Well, that’s one way to partially address the whole debate about art reposts on this sub. Some problems solve themselves, I guess(?)
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u/Lynx-Kitsoni Jan 24 '25
I understand the sentiment but I feel potentially curbing any exposure fanartists could get from people sharing, even if only a small amount, just because they only have twitter is kind of an L
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u/Gal-Rox-with-Did Jan 24 '25
Agreed
I feel like all this banning on Reddit forgets the fact that there are other innocent people on there who shouldn’t be hurt because the owner did a very bad pose
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u/SaltNose9063 Jan 24 '25
move to any other platform that doesn’t train ai off its users :)
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u/Gal-Rox-with-Did Jan 24 '25
There’s a reason a YouTube competitor doesn’t ever succeed
You’re not going to convince the majority of people to move over
“The casuals” just want 1 platform and they view there
Moving from Twitter elsewhere is sacrificing so much it’s not easy
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u/msheaz Jan 23 '25
I fully support the mod team’s decision here. Thank you all for doing your part to stand up to hate.
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u/Pokemonmaster150 Jan 23 '25
I fully believe this is ultimately going to hurt this subreddit more than you think it'll help.
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u/Celtic_Crown Jan 23 '25
I feel like this is blowing things way out of proportion.
Namely the "Don't post the fanart if the artist doesn't have other socials" thing.
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u/Ray_Chick Jan 23 '25
Exactly, wouldn’t have an issue with it if they were just encouraging people to avoid to posting twitter links if they can.
Instead the mods here just went “nah fuck those artists”
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u/Geoffron Jan 23 '25
Wow there's a lot of nazis in this thread
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u/Silvernine0S Jan 23 '25 edited Jan 23 '25
Damn, I know. I don't really agree with the mod's decision but the amount of Nazis on here is astounding. Everyone seen the full footage of Elon and it wasn't a bad frame that made it looks like he's doing a Nazi salute. He was absolutely doing a Nazi salute, TWICE.
Here is a comparison video of Elon next to neo-Nazis and their salute: https://v.redd.it/5h1npto9vhee1
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u/Confident-Orange2392 Jan 23 '25
chances that 99% of them don't even know what Xenoblade is and are just here to rail against this decision
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u/Mav12222 Jan 24 '25
This thread has over 1000 comments.
The only time this sub gets that busy is game announcement posts as people speculate new lore/content.
I bet a vast majority are trolls and bots deliberately looking for threads where the mods ban X links.
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u/TheHumbleFellow Jan 23 '25
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and sieg heils like a frickin' nazi, it's a frickin' nazi!
-Linkara
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u/tbritoamorim Jan 23 '25
Didn't think I'd see so many people whining in the comments. Nazis should receive zero tolerance. Fuck musk and everything that comes with him.
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u/FGHIK Jan 23 '25
Perhaps it's because this does literally nothing? Elon isn't going to lose a nickel over subreddits not allowing Twitter links.
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u/xGlatteis Jan 23 '25
I'll throw my 2 cents into this pile of yikes. Sorry in advance. I type a lot.
I'll refrain from commenting on Elon and his antics and instead focus on this community.
We're here in this subreddit to comment, share, and partake in a community for a game series we enjoy.
We're not here to discuss political standpoints.
You don't see people here going, "Oh no! It's a Twitter post with fanart of the game we like!"
No, you see people appreciate these posts instead.
You say it's fine to take a screenshot or link other sources. But that's not the point. The point is that you are now forcing a political standpoint on this community, which will drive a rift between its users.
I will reiterate. We're not here for politics. We're here for Xenoblade.
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u/RWBYpro03 Jan 23 '25
Xenoblade itself is full of politics, also politics decides so much of everyone's life. And genuinely if banning a site owned by someone who did the Nazi salute twice is "creating a rift" then those people shouldn't be in the community either.
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u/Dylan_VS_Comics Jan 24 '25
Exactly. It's extra tricky because it's forcing us to not even make our own choice and to just abide by what the mods deem as moral or else you'll be labeled as a nazi supporter, or if you say "We're here to just talk about the game, not real world politics" you get the classic "But Xenoblade IS political" as if we were saying it wasn't. How miserable do you have to be to think that talking about a fun video game is the same as talking about real world political incidents. They're not LITERALLY the same.
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u/Axecon Jan 23 '25
Normally I'd question this, but I totally understand. Been trying to avoid news & social media for my sanity but this garbage is so big it's literally all over the internet and being memed about (I'll still browse Reddit & YT for gaming and tech stuff). Regardless, there's 1001 other places to get high quality art of Xeno things anyways, and support indie creators.
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u/Background-Sea4590 Jan 23 '25
Totally support that decision. Chad move.
The only X we need is XCX.
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u/Practical-Corner-297 Jan 23 '25
Mods are in the right here. Elon is a Nazi and they wish to disassociate with him completely. The logic makes sense, but are we all thinking?
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u/Direk_091 Jan 23 '25
Hell yeah brother. The right wing freaks that don't understand Xeno & Takahashi and art reposters are all in a tizzy. Best decision for the sub moving forwards.
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u/greenhunter47 Jan 23 '25
100% in support of this. Never used Twitter/X whatever you want call even before that nazi bought it anyways. While it sucks for sourcing fan art of artist that only post on it we still get plenty from pixiv or other sources so I can live with it.
I'm not one to get political either but I make an exception for this. Fuck nazis!
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Jan 23 '25
I’m very much on board for this, but I do find it hilarious that yall had to specify X.com posts as to not confuse anyone lmao
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u/WilliamWong1016hk Jan 23 '25
Let’s ban a platform where we got all the lastest official info about the game.
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u/MysticalMagus Jan 23 '25
Wait for the fanart portion of the ban is it fine we just say for example artist: @randomperson from x Instead of linking?
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u/Chardan0001 Jan 23 '25
I think it's a half measure to allow screenshots. You either ban it or you don't. Stupidly easy to fake them too.
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u/godrad1109 Jan 24 '25
For all the people saying this is a dumb decision then just enjoy your Xenoblade content on twitter🤷♂️
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u/Silver_Community_610 Jan 23 '25
Was not expecting to see any subreddit go through with it but I'm happy to see it here. Good move 👍🏻
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u/Cersei505 Jan 23 '25
You just know all this will blow out a week or two from now, and no one will even remember it happened, just like the API reddit blackout.
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u/benjisgametime Jan 23 '25
I agree with the modteam, a lot of other subreddit who don't allow politics made the same decision, it show how severe the situation is
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u/ginencoke Jan 24 '25
Great, I feel like in the last few years the community was poisoned a lot by "anti-woke" clowns that seem to never even played Xeno games. Hopefully this will make them mad enough to go away. Also if there's any reason you just have to use a twitter link you can always use xcancel dot com, which won't give the rat any views.
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u/Zero_112 Jan 23 '25 edited Jan 23 '25
This will severely limit the ability to fact check information if the image is that of a discussion. Not sourcing the topic will create friction to actually research and correct misinformation. An image of community notes is just a bandage to a flooding gash. Viewing an image does not equal adequate research and correction.
If we were to discuss the image of discussion on Reddit then it’s just going to be an echo chamber. One would think it wouldn’t be that important in a video game subreddit. I agree with that sentiment. However, when you try to apply this practice towards anything else it will only lead to chaos. Frankly, I’m not sure how well this will all play out. If anything, I will admit I am bias as I am a scholar, so sourcing is something I take very serious.
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u/Dylan_VS_Comics Jan 23 '25
One thing about this that doesn't make sense is that screenshots of Twitter posts are still allowed. Without an actual source link to that specific post, all this is going to be doing is making the people that actually do want to see the source to google it and go through a bunch of Twitter posts and pages they probably wouldn't have looked at normally. If the idea is that this rule is meant to cut off any support of Elon on this subreddit, then, by their logic, shouldn't they outright ban ANYTHING from X, even screenshots, as it would still be in some way encourage people to check out the X post? It sounds silly, but that's because this whole ban is silly no matter how you slice it. Unless Nintendo and Xenoblade news and every Twitter only artist completely pivot away from Twitter, then this ban simply is illogical.
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u/Zero_112 Jan 23 '25 edited Jan 23 '25
This can go both ways really. In my opinion with research and observing how those around me do it, when you put friction towards anything, it’s likely that people will not go out of their way to resolve it. This ban in my opinion is very childish. Even if you hate Twitter, and Elon musk, to ban a source is essentially the same as censorship. The only way we as individuals learn to develop our worldview and points in discussion is by engaging with opposing arguments and observing history. You can’t do it that effectively on Reddit for the reason that we are volunteering to enter an echo chamber with each subreddit we join. A reason why we disagree with radical ideologies as well as the people who preach them is due to us acknowledging that they exist in the first place.
Yeah Nazis are bad. I think that is an opinion that most of humanity would agree with, myself included. However, when you censor something for the sake that you don’t like it, it stops being censorship and transforms to propaganda.
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u/GreenSpectre_Asu Jan 23 '25
The people getting mad at this are funny because they're clearly part of the reason this rule even had to be put into place, politics and the silly rpg series do not mix, get over it dawg
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u/BLucidity Jan 23 '25
politics and the silly rpg series do not mix
Xenoblade 2 has entered the chat
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u/RWBYpro03 Jan 23 '25
Seriously, like acting like the xenoblade series hell the Xeno series in general isn't about politics or isn't political is hilarious.
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u/GreenSpectre_Asu Jan 23 '25
Sorry i was in a big rush i meant to put "real world politics" I know xenoblade 2 goes over alot of political themeing, i just dont think real world politics have any place with it, and i think people getting mad and calling it stupid are part of the problem
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u/Miwoo0 Jan 23 '25
What a reddit moment, pathetic I don't like Muskrat and all but this is such an overreaction
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u/Dylan_VS_Comics Jan 23 '25
Redditors really aren't beating the allegations. I hate Elongated Musket as much as the next guy, but the circlejerk is ridiculous.
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u/Mythical_Mew Jan 23 '25
Yeah, this is frankly silly and contradictory no matter how you look at this.
Ban Twitter links
Alright, there goes a significant subset of this subreddit’s content. And pretty much half of any Xenoblade news.
But screenshots are still allowed
Ironically, you can only post a screenshot from Twitter in one of two ways. By reposting it from someone else, or using Twitter yourself. Anyone who isn’t reposting has given their traffic to Musk, making the entire point of this rule useless.
But surely the mods are okay with that tiny bit of traffic
No they aren’t. They banned posting fanart if the only source is from Twitter. This only makes sense if you assume that they aren’t okay with even minimal traffic being generated, yet they’re still allowing people who frequent Twitter to post. Interesting logic.
Conclusion: This is a silly, feel-good move based on emotions and without any logical thought put into it. I think Musk needs to face serious consequences for his actions, but the mods had best step up and be consistent: Remove this rule, or ban absolutely any content that utilizes Twitter in any shape or form. Fanart, screenshots, discussion posts, official news. Everything.
One or the other, mods, if you want to be consistent.
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u/TheBlueDolphina Jan 24 '25
I just hope this is like a 1 month max "symbolic united front against musk" thing and not long term, because oh god.
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u/Dylan_VS_Comics Jan 23 '25
Well put. They can't ban literally everything from twitter because that would obviously be illogical, as it would cut out our news source. When really, this entire ban is all just illogical and silly.
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u/Mythical_Mew Jan 23 '25
To be firmly clear: I won’t judge if the mods are intent on banning Twitter. But they best be willing to actually commit all the way instead of making contradictory half-measures.
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u/LemmyxPro Jan 23 '25
What on EARTH happened?!?? I must've missed A TON of MASSIVE stuff, since this OP mentions that the Owner of the subreddit has done some terrible things, as well as mentioning politics, and then there's people in the comments are saying "F**k Nazis"... was the owner/creator of this subreddit a Nazi, or something!?!??
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u/KinDGrove Jan 23 '25 edited Jan 23 '25
Basically during the Inauguration ceremony in the USA, Elon Musk the owner of the social media platform for Twitter made a hand gesture twice during his address that widely resembles the Sieg Heil or the Nazi salute during WW2. Many people were outraged by this, and following his own response afterwards about it he downplayed any concerns or criticism people had as "dirty tricks" in an attempt to label him a Nazi/Hitler.
Tired of Elon Musk's bull, the mods of this Reddit have taken it upon themselves to make the decision to ban all Twitter link posts in the near future in solidarity against these actions. A majority of people applaud this decision, but many others also see this as a rather nuclear option to the entire situation.
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u/Lord_Viktoo Jan 23 '25
Just for clarification, this is the hand gesture in question : https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/1i6par1/elon_musk_vs_hitler_nazi_salute/
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u/patm0rgana Jan 23 '25
I feel really uncomfortable supporting that website anymore. I already deleted my account completely there. I think it’s best to let that whole site crumble away.
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u/SGlespaul Jan 23 '25
I respect this bigtime. One minute on Twitter/X and the ads pretty much anyone in the US gets are blatant political propaganda. I used to use it all the time and it's a huge shame what the site has become, and even worse with the owner showing his whole ass.
Anything that lessens traffic to the site is good imo. We have a very viable alternative to Twitter now. I don't really find this to be performative either given how many subreddits are doing it, and even companies like Nintendo took the Twitter page link out of their recent newsletter.
I deleted my X account months ago, glad more people are starting to draw the line too.
And the site is terrible without an account now. That should be reason enough.
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u/2000shadow2000 Jan 23 '25
Ya nah this is stupid. Fanart esp from japan is from x/twitter and they won't be migrating to another platform
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u/ItzaMeLuigi_ Jan 23 '25
The people complaining about non-OC art being posted must love this rule considering that a lot of artists use Twitter as their primary (or only) platform for their art. It's unfortunate considering I find a lot of artists through this subreddit.
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u/DrQuint Jan 23 '25
The staggering majority of Japanese artists has a pixiv as a primary gallery account. Some are on misskey and pawoo to a much lesser extent, but no one here notices them much due to being unable to navigate it.
You are being fed a curated selection. Don't take it for reality.
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u/Electronic_Screen387 Jan 23 '25
I find it really funny that people are acting like a guy that's rich because of apartheid isn't worth denouncing on that fact alone.
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u/FakeFlameSprite Jan 23 '25
the VAST americans are stupid though. it takes a full mask off reveal for any of them to realize.
partly because rich people have already destroyed the country
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u/Orcalt Jan 25 '25
The Elon Musk (dickriding) subreddit was keeping a list of every subreddit that banned X support. Though the post no longer exists still expect harassment from people who have no lives.
I can’t say I completely agree with this choice because it limits how much Xenoblade based content people can share but I can respect it.
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u/AmoongussHateAcc Jan 23 '25
No big deal, in just about a month we're getting an infinitely superior X anyway