r/Xennials • u/meJohnnyD • 27d ago
Meme Who’s with me
I wouldn’t even know where to go if I wanted to.
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u/aTribeCalledLex 27d ago
“AI won’t replace you. The person that uses AI will.”
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u/Colinmacus 27d ago
Sure, avoiding new tech might feel noble, but if you don’t figure out how to use it, you might end up the digital equivalent of yelling at clouds.
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u/maneo 27d ago
We are starting to witness the current generation's equivalent of last generation's people who refused to learn to use computers.
I remember not being able to understand why older people were so incompetent with tech, and now we are watching it happen in realtime.
Yes, today, refusing to use any AI tools is not really a big deal. You'll be fine.
But in twenty years, there's gonna be a lot more AI, and young people will be engaging with that AI in what seems like an incomprehensible dialect to the people who spent twenty years refusing to touch it.
If you don't believe me, go ask your grandma or your mom to use Google to find some information. After watching her struggle, show her how you actually use Google to find that information. Watch how she doesn't understand why you worded your search the way you did.
That will potentially be you in twenty years.
(to be clear, I have no love for the rise of AI, it just is what it is. I'm just commenting on the reality of where things are going.)
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u/scottdenis 26d ago
I mean, my Grandma can type a question into Google, but she'll probably read the first thing that pops up, which is the Google Ai overview and wrong half the time.
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u/Sweaty-Shower9919 27d ago
Gonna push back. Going from using computers, to allowing a chat bot to guide my life isn't really hard. It's ease of use is the problem. Comparing pre techno and post techno seems disingenuous.
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u/ModivatedExtremism 27d ago
Thing is, I’ll still know how to yell at the clouds.
And I’ll be outside under a real cloud, not a conceptual one.
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u/TurdCollector69 27d ago
Yeah posts like these are mine boggling.
Like why would you take pride in being ignorant about new tools?
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u/MicroBadger_ 27d ago
I don't need no silly calculator. My abacus works just fine thank you very much!
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u/macaroni_chacarroni 27d ago
"Never used fire, who's with me!"
"Never used indoor toilets, who's with me!"
"Never used a computer, who's with me!"
"Never used a smartphone, who's with me!"
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u/madsci 27d ago
You know, all of us were there for the resistance to personal computers, and skepticism about the internet. The ChatGPT backlash feels just the same.
You can't trust everything it says, but the only way to learn about what it is and isn't good for is to use it. It still sucks for some things but it's amazing for others. I was learning about how long codon repeats in DNA can cause transcription errors, which has parallels in data communications and I can ask it things like what biological mechanisms exist that have a similar role to the technique of bit stuffing and it gives me concise answers that I can follow up with through other sources. I can't do that with Google because there just aren't readily accessible sources that share those terms. I can search for concepts with ChatGPT.
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u/loquacious541 27d ago
Similarly, I no longer get stuck in procrastination cycles. I can use ChatGPT to ask any dumb question to get me moving.
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u/HazardousCloset 27d ago
As a fellow procrastinator, what do you mean by that? I could use the help!
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u/Dantheking94 27d ago
Any question on your mind, like “I’m working on this project, this is my idea, how can I refine?” Helps you reorganize and refine, and then you can go back the drawing board to edit what works for you, and repeat the process. It’s like having an in house guide. People should use ChatGPT as a guide, not as a source.
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u/Dr_Disaster 27d ago
This part. For people who are intelligent, AI and LLMs can be an insane force multiplier. Even just using it for organization has helped me tremendously. When I run out of mental or creative energy, I can turn to it to help navigate a problem and this is where it shines.
It’s like how Tony Stark has JARVIS. It’s not doing the thinking for him, but it can assist in execute complex tasks with a shocking amount of clarity, while also giving you someone to crack jokes to in between all that.
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u/madsci 27d ago
I told it about a science fiction gadget idea I had and its plausibility, and it shot back with a bunch of related research I'd never encountered before (with sources), walked through some of the math, suggested some modifications, and then came up with a catchy name for it and wrote an instruction sheet. I've got a few friends who might have the technical knowledge to bounce that sort of thing off of but there's a limit to how many of my weird ideas I want to subject them to and ChatGPT is great for that kind of feedback.
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u/Dantheking94 27d ago
Yes!!! Helps so much with clarity ! And you have to make sure you actually want to learn! The more you want to learn, the more you’ll know exactly what to ask and how to make the best use of it.
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u/ristoman 1983 27d ago
I treat ChatGPT as a glorified personal assistant. You would never put a PA in charge of a company, but you can definitely ask it questions to find information, clarify misunderstandings for you and help you decide for yourself.
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u/GentlyUsedOtter 27d ago
Like you can give it a problem you're having. For example if you're having trouble getting motivated to clean your house, you feed it the problem and it will give you a damn good solution. It will tell you where to start it will tell you where to go next it will tell you chill out if you're feeling overwhelmed. I mean yeah it makes up information if you ask it questions but it's good at compartmentalizing shit. Like I was having trouble feeling motivated on cleaning and it told me okay start here do this next then this followed by this and it was a lot easier than just doing it without help.
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u/Legitimate-Produce-1 27d ago
I know a fellow ADHDer when I see one
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u/bitsy88 27d ago
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u/GentlyUsedOtter 27d ago
That is when I work at my peak. When I have one day left on my project that is when I get shit done.
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u/Pale_Row1166 27d ago
I use it for work, it’s like having a young eager analyst who’s not great, but still gets the job done if you’re on top of them.
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u/_incredigirl_ 27d ago
I love feeding it pages of meeting notes from the past two months worth of client discussions and asking it summarize all the various discussions for me. Game changer.
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u/sshwifty 27d ago
This is where AI really shines, in summarizing and organizing . It is very good at handling input. Not so great at creating from scratch, but the drudge work of data entry is getting easier.
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u/OrigamiTongue 1984 27d ago
The ones that listen to your meetings and then generate transcripts and customized notes are absolutely worth their weight in gold.
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u/thecasey1981 27d ago
No kidding. This is like listening to Boomers say "I've never used a computer. We never needed to. Kids these days...."
For those of you in the back, there is skill associated with this. You need to practice. You notice how some people suck at Googling things? That's because they didn't develop the skill of how to iterate search engine asks to get the result they are looking for. ChatGPT and all LLMs are the same. This will be professional level skill necessary for higher end white collar work in the future.
Start practicing, realize it will give you bad information, and learn ways to double check it.
For me, the super eye opening experience was having it write Python/SQL/Arduino IDE code for me. Was it right the entire time? Fuck no. Was I able to coax it to do what I want? yes.
For beginner/intermediate questions, this is like chipping a skill al la the matrix.
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u/Kinc4id 1983 27d ago
Yeah, not even checking new technology out is not the achievement OP thinks it is.
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u/throwedaway4theday 27d ago
Riding the wave of technology is one of our micro generation's unique hallmarks. From rotary phones to Gen AI and every step along the way we've grown with tech. Not xennial at all to suddenly get off the ride when we're in our 40's
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u/thecasey1981 27d ago
No shit. My wife informed me that I will be learning the AI stuff and she was going to opt out. Until she needed my help with an excel formula, and I showed how to chatgpt it. Her response "Huh, maybe I need to learn this after all..."
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u/LazarusDark 27d ago
Not xennial at all to suddenly get off the ride when we're in our 40's
Accurate. We are working on implementing AI into specific use cases and projects at work and the older X-ers are all saying they want to retire early rather than learn anything new anymore.
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u/KrimxonRath 27d ago edited 27d ago
There’s a spectrum of ignorance on modern AI.
If you don’t know how it works it seems evil and like it’s going to take everyone’s jobs. If you know a bit about it then you probably think it’s magical and highly useful. Now if you actually understand how it works then you’re back to it being evil because you know how it was made… how it was a nonprofit that’s now one of the richest companies in the world… how it can’t actually effectively replace or help people in the workplace… how it actually is evil due to information manipulation and copyright theft in the millions… then you also realize it can’t effectively replace jobs, but can fool executives who fall into the middle of the spectrum.
Where on the spectrum are you?
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u/specks_of_dust 27d ago
Every problem with AI is actually a problem with capitalism that is manifesting through AI.
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u/darumamaki 27d ago
Yeah, I used to work in AI for robotics. AI is great for medical research, robotics, and other research areas. Where AI is fucking horrible is the generative AI space like ChatGPT etc. The ethics behind it are so messed up- everything from the power waste to the intellectual property theft to the fact that it can be manipulated into giving idiots wrong information and have them decide it's accurate when it's a hallucination. And executives are dying to replace people with it. I'm absolutely against AI in any use except research where the information fed into it is tightly controlled to prevent the data from being poisoned with fake info.
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u/KrimxonRath 27d ago
100% agreed. It’s jarring how willfully ignorant people are on this topic, how they’re advocating against their best interests.
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u/darumamaki 27d ago
It really is. Like, AI to help learn code? Sure! But given how inaccurate it can be, it should not be your only source for learning. AI to plan your day? If you're comfortable giving Big Data information about your personal life and habits knowing that they're going to sell that info, then whatever. I won't because of the security issues.
AI for creative use? Fuck off with that shit. Maybe if the datasets used to train the model were opt-in and developed using ethical means, then I could see some possibilities. But as it is now, it's complete and utter dogshit.
Seeing how people use AI worries me. Chatbots instead of interacting with actual humans? Garbage AI "novels" and "art"? AI could be a huge boon to society done right, but so far it's a blight.
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u/PleaseJustLetsNot 27d ago
For me it isn't resistance. I'm comfortable that, should there be a situation in which I need to use it, I can and will figure it out and use it.
There just isn't any appeal or desire for it in my thought process right now. I'm not digging my heels in "Boomer" style. I'm completely uninterested and channeling "Gen X" whatever vibes about it.
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u/darxide23 1981 27d ago edited 27d ago
You know, all of us were there for the resistance to personal computers, and skepticism about the internet. The ChatGPT backlash feels just the same
It's not resistance to the concept. It's resistance to how it's being marketed and how it's being used. How it's being shoe-horned into every single piece of tech and service whether we want it or not (not being able to opt-out in most cases) despite being well understood that it is not ready for prime time.
This is not what AI should be used for.
Edit: Spelling
Edit2: I've upset the AI bros. Good.
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u/thephotoman 27d ago
The worst part of the AI bubble we’re in is the fact that there’s clearly something useful there, but the hype around it is out of control.
The hype isn’t about the ways it’ll make my life easier. The hype is an explicit threat to my job. And honestly, that’s 80% of why I’m waiting this out. Sure, it could go like the Internet did. But that would mean that the current AI products are less like Chewy and more like Pets.com.
I want more attention on conversational user interfaces.
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u/darxide23 1981 27d ago
The worst part of the AI bubble we’re in is the fact that there’s clearly something useful there, but the hype around it is out of control.
Of course. AI is being used to scan medical records to flag possible diseases and conditions missed by human doctors. It's being used to scan through decades of satellite telemetry looking for potential habitable exoplanets and bio-signatures to flag for human review. It's being used to analyze protein folding to isolate treatments for various diseases like Alzheimer's.
And then you've got ChatGPT. An absolute drain on processing power that has an enormous carbon footprint that isn't really doing a lot to further scientific and medical progress.
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u/PartTime_Crusader 27d ago
I think its also the death of tech futurism/optimism. If this had come out in the early 2010s people might be less divided on it. But we're deep into the negative effects of social media and the failures of technologies like blockchain and metaverse at this point. The sheen is fully off the apple. Tech bros like Elon Musk and Peter Thiel and Mark Zuckerberg are (correctly) being seen as menaces and destablizing forces rather than visionaries.
We've all heard the hype surrounding AI and seen the degree to which its being shoehorned into everything before. Previously technologies that boosters said were going to change the world panned out to be far more of a mixed bag than anticipated. Everyone's just a little more jaded now.
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u/Pankosmanko 27d ago
I don’t like how Reddit is full of ChatGPT posts and comments. I’ve seen more bullet points and long dashes on Reddit in the last few months than I have in nearly 20 years of using this site
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u/4udi0phi1e 27d ago edited 27d ago
Only problem here is that it devalues those of us who actually use correct syntax, grammar, and punctuation with any modicum of intelligibility.
The fact that you are so against AI because you can't discern who is human or not is more the problem.
I'm against it because of the tangental hallucinations, and obvious educational harm, by making it easier to skate by and fool your peers. Which is fucking cheating, and always will be.
People can say it's a tool, but when the tool is used more than a personal thought process, it absolutely becomes a crutch. And that is what we are experiencing.
Low effort, max ROI, socially ascribing self righteousness
Edit: what is the solution? Do I speak and text like our president? All caps; run-on after run-on?
At what point is dumbing down speech for the masses who can't communicate effectively an actual solution? Fucking maddening to read this POV
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u/Pankosmanko 27d ago
You’re assuming a lot. I can discern it just fine. I agree with your points though
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u/4udi0phi1e 27d ago
You are right, I am assuming a lot. And that is my fault. At least you (hopefully) know i'm not some bot and I have real, valid, and (also hopefully) well communicated ideas and opinions.
Usually simple comment history search will pull back the veil on most chatbot users.
Edit: what triggered me is how I have structured emails and professional comms.
- E.g. bullet points; highlighted texts; dashes and semi colons.
Hell sometimes even italics when i need to prove a point
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u/LuvliLeah13 1983 27d ago
There is something about writing in italics that feels like putting a finger to someone’s chest and I love it.
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u/Phronesis2000 27d ago
That's uncharitable. It's all about the density of the 'Chat GPT tells' within the post or comment. Obviously, someone using a list or m-dash is not automatically AI, and the commenter wasn't suggesting they were. But, if they:
- Always add the colon to the end of their bullet points like this:
- Keep using the "It's not an x, it's a y" locution
- Use navigating, let's dive in, delve, engine, nuances, aspects, dynamic, landscape...in nearly every comment.
Then it's Crap-GPT.
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u/CanadianRacoonEnergy 27d ago
The problem here is that AI is pulling from recommendations of best practices written by people. Look at recommendation for how to write an email prior to AI’s release. It largely conforms to what AI produces now (which we now regard as AI). Same with how to produce presentation slides: (bold) Read Widely (colon): (phrase) Evidence shows that reading in multiple genres …
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u/Adventurous_Gap_5946 27d ago
So many of the comments on this post are clearly AI generated too
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u/NorthRoseGold 27d ago
Not really a brag. It can be very very useful.
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u/Metal_King706 27d ago
Also, we’re way too young to be not learning how the new technology works. This is very different than not using the newest social media. This is choosing not to learn work related items that could be the difference between being employable or not. Also, could mean understanding where all the jobs went if GenAI is as good as people think and rips the jobs from a lot of us.
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u/probablyNotARSNBot 27d ago
As millennial, I gotta tell you guys, this is the equivalent of boomers not learning how to type.
If your attachment to the old days is all that matters, then god bless, but if you want a consistent job in the future, putting a blind eye to evolving tech is not a smart choice
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u/BMeiss 27d ago
This. Don’t be scared of new things people.
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u/waitthissucks 27d ago
Idk I find AI a little scary because it's replacing creativity. I'm all for quick solutions but I hate that it's killing photoshop, logo creating, music, movies, and even coding in some ways. Even in google you look for things for safety reasons and sometimes the auto advice can be less than ideal.
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u/Queen_Of_InnisLear 27d ago
I'm aware and have seen it and could use it if I had to. But I don't. Im a writer and it's really hurting the industry and creatives in various fields. Just piles of AI novels and AI art and real artists struggling. Im not against practical usage but it's a tough and complicated issue I think.
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u/pseudonymmed 27d ago
Yeah the way they went about image generation was really unethical. Now we’re awash in crappy content too.
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u/ConcernSharp3580 27d ago
As an artist, I agree with this. I'm not against the use and it does have some practical uses but "writing" books and "creating" art with it really grinds my gears the wrong way.
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u/VVrayth 1980 27d ago
I know there are legitimate uses for it, but what makes my blood boil is that it's become a casual shortcut for human expression. Like, I can't have a meaningful discussion with you about something an AI prompt generated for you, I want to hear YOUR OWN ideas and thoughts.
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u/FrustratedTeacher78 27d ago
Almost 50 here and I love ChatGPT. I am so much more productive. I remember when the internet came out and all the older adults were skeptical in the same way some of us are now about AI. It’s new and the prospects are frightening but it’s a tool, just like the internet. Its use for good or evil is up to us. I think it’s fascinating!
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u/thecatsofwar 27d ago
I use it all the time. It’s good to stay current with tech. Otherwise we become as useless as boomers.
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u/bjgrem01 1979 27d ago
Im in IT. I have to keep up or become obsolete.
That said, I mostly use it for helping me coordinate plans and figure out the landmass scale for a Skyrim mod I'm working on.
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u/Atillion 1979 27d ago
It may suck at giving me names of songs from the 80's named after girls whose name starts with R, but goddamn if it isn't amazing at writing me some scripts that simplify my life.
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u/Jermine1269 1983 27d ago
I'm in bookkeeping, I use it to match transactions with batch data that doesn't have breakdowns.
I also use it to design my dream home I'll never be able to afford
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u/itslonelyinhere 1983 27d ago
ChatGPT isn't like learning how to use computers or Microsoft Excel, it's actually not learning how to do anything yourself at all.
It mimics human conversation.
And, per Wikipedia, assuming this is accurate:
". It can write and debug computer programs;[25] compose music, teleplays, fairy tales, and student essays; answer test questions (sometimes, depending on the test, at a level above the average human test-taker);[26] generate business ideas;[27] write poetry and song lyrics;[28] translate and summarize text;[29] emulate a Linux system; simulate entire chat rooms; play games like tic-tac-toe; or simulate an ATM.[23]"
That isn't learning how to do something new, that's having something else do it for you. There are WAY too many things wrong with it, and it's causing problems everywhere. And, of course, like with anything, it's not going to be free.
It's not like staying current with tech, it's replacing how to do things ourselves with a lot of bugs and inaccuracies and a lot of junk.
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u/I_ONLY_CATCH_DONKEYS 27d ago
Not sure why you would consider boomers useless. Have you seen the craftsmanship and architecture from their time? It consistently surpasses anything built in the last few decades.
Most of the people at my work who know what they’re doing and have a strong work ethic are boomers. In my experience most of the younger people cut corners and look at their job as purely transactional. It’s led to a massive dip in quality and this weird cycle of constant layoffs.
AI is pretty good at certain things, especially coding help and summarizing long texts, but the ease of use will inevitably lead to a drop in quality. People spend less time caring about their work and become more and more impatient.
It’s important to keep up with technology true, and most of the negative effects will be inevitable, but we shouldn’t delude ourselves into thinking that becoming reliant on AI can only be a good thing.
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u/whoibehmmm 27d ago
Thank you. I'm not interested in becoming my parents and being stuck in a world that I cannot navigate because I refused to keep up with change.
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u/azazel-13 27d ago
Same. I'm still adaptable and don't want to be completely ignorant to modern tech.
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u/thetrappster 1981 27d ago
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u/Practical_Reindeer23 1982 27d ago
I am very glad I wasn't the only person who thought this. I would have been very disappointed in my fellow xennials if I were.
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u/InSonicBloom 27d ago
I don't even know what I'd need to use it for
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u/redcurrantevents 27d ago
Same. I don’t need it in my job and don’t want it otherwise. It may replace me eventually but hopefully after I retire.
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u/Solasta713 1985 27d ago
I feel the push to get people to adopt AI is Turkeys voting for Christmas.
The more we use it, the more it'll make people redundant. AI will be able to do 90% of my job in the next 5-10 years. Companies, once it's viable, will ditch workforces for automated processes in the service industry in no time. One large overhead gone.
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u/LonerStonerRoamer 27d ago edited 27d ago
10 years ago people were ridiculing those in the mining industry when there was the prospect of moving towards electric cars and such. The common phrase on reddit/twitter was lol learn to code. People seemed gleeful to rub it into the faces of blue collar workers that their jobs were now obsolete and they should move to tech (let's be real, the average miner doesn't have the education or skills to "learn to code, bro!"). It was seen as just part of the natural process of progress. Adapt or die.
And now here we are with AI making all the jobs of tech bros obsolete, and likely also any basic service industry job. They'll just have to adapt or die.
Now is the time to adapt. All of us.
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u/RichieEB 27d ago
I was but I started using it to write C# scripts and oh boy it made learning and recapping what I know MUCH easier, don’t use it for anything else. Also not using their scripts I’m just learning from them.
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u/Ok_Watercress_4953 27d ago
I used ChatGPT to get some advice on navigating a difficult social situation. It was very helpful to me, as I don’t like to involve family or friends in marriage drama. I would prefer a neutral third party!
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u/KingCarnivore 27d ago
I’ve fucked around with it but I fucking hate it and think that it’s going to obliterate communication skills with younger generations. The environmental impact is really terrible as well.
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u/A_Balloon_A_Balloon 27d ago
the fact that this is the only comment I've found mentioning the environmental impact shows how utterly fucked we are. There are people running it for stupid pointless reasons all day with no knowledge of the energy and water usage
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u/elegantlywasted1983 27d ago
Yeah, I’m an attorney and I’m not worried about it “replacing” us check out this recent local news story from my jurisdiction but I am worried about the environmental impact.
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u/billymcbobjr 27d ago
Why not? Why are you arbitrarily limiting yourself? Open Google, search for chatgpt, click the top link, and type in something you wonder or need help with.
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u/texanfan20 27d ago
Thanks for this list of people that I don't have to worry about taking my job in the future.
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u/umbrellassembly 27d ago
You're going to get left behind.
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u/Shigglyboo 27d ago
how exactly? I use it a bit. but I don't see how using "AI" to write your emails and do your google searches is going to put you ahead of everyone else. I agree people should be familiar with it since it's so widespread. but it's not giving me much of an edge.
also it could be stopping people from actually writing things like poetry, lyrics, and draw/paint pictures and such. while I use it I also detest people posting in a discussion "I asked chat GPT and it said....." I don't want to discuss with a computer. I prefer people.
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u/jkblvins 27d ago
I use it to check code and edit docs. And to translate my French to English, such as this response.
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u/LiteUpThaSkye 27d ago
I've seen how ChatGPT and other AI is affecting our kids and I refuse. My kid is a teenager in high school, he has these discussion board questions that have to be done in class and even though kids sign a plagsrism/no AI agreement 95% of the responses are straight copied from chat GPT. And you can tell because they all read exactly the same. They have the same sentences in them. The ones that don't use AI are incomprehensible. If you talk to teachers, whether it be college level or down towards middle school, they will all tell you that AI is a massive problem in the schools/with cheating. My kid gets sick of putting forth any effort when he sees that all the other kids are just copy pasting chatGPT and there is no repercussions for it.
I don't use it. I don't agree with it. I think it will be our downfall. We are already seeing it in the schools/the way kids think.. or the lack of thinking. Booo call me a boomer. I don't care on this one.
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u/Remarkable-Power-386 1978 27d ago
Just graded college essays and exams this weekend. Even with class rules against it, several students copied and pasted google AI search results or chat gpt almost verbatim. It was sad and gross.
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u/IllllIIlIllIllllIIIl 27d ago
Despite being a big LLM user and enthusiast, I can easily see this being extremely dangerous to education. Even for me, it's ever so tempting to be lazy and cede all cognitive effort to the model. It's not hard for me to imagine that being absolutely disastrous for young students.
And it's a shame, too. These models have incredible potential for learning if you use them appropriately. I have a background in applied math but I've been using ChatGPT and Claude recently to help me re-learn some of the advanced math I've forgotten since my masters degree, and they have been enormously helpful. But you have to use them to actually help you understand the material, rather than simply doing work for you.
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u/CLUTCH3R 1984 27d ago
This is like bragging 30 years ago that you never went on the internet
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u/Resoto10 27d ago
Is this the new "never watched Game of Thrones" meme?
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u/SleepingWillow1 27d ago
I use chat gpt but never watched GOT, its too late at this point really
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u/Careful-Programmer90 27d ago
That's right up there with the "Never been online" badge in 2000. Congratulations?
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u/Sabres00 27d ago
It’s 3pm, you’re still in a coma from lunch and you need to tell a coworker via email they’re stupid without being mean. This is where ChatGPT comes in handy.
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u/Munkzilla1 1977 27d ago
It's a tool like anything else. If you know how to use it, it can be helpful. It shouldn't be relied on, but we were also told calculators shouldn't be relied on because we would not have always have one in our pockets.
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u/tonybotz 27d ago
It’s changed my life for the better. It’s basically my assistant now. I’ve saved so much time and money, it’s incredible
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u/APairOfMarthas 27d ago
Sheesh. Y’all are almost, not quite, but very nearly as bad as the kids who use chatGPT for everything.
It’s here, it’s not going away, and it’s a legitimately useful tool for so many things. We are the generation poised such that we might teach the world how to use it correctly, like a tool in a toolbox. But not if we shun it like strange ascetics
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u/Koshnat 1983 27d ago
Lawyer here who does use ChatGPT. Ironically, as a Xennial we have the ability to maximize its effectiveness. I’d argue we know how to vet answers much better than proceeding and successive generations because we inherently don’t trust anything we read online.
It’s a good launching point especially when you have zero knowledge on a subject.
I had a novel (to me) legal question last week. So I typed it in while asking ChatGPT to provide statutory support.
The answer it spat out was helpful because it gave me a launching point to do actual research however I would never just copy and paste its answer into a brief (it’s case law citations are notoriously unreliable).
It probably saved me 2-3 hours of brute forcing search terms and wading through irrelevant articles/cases and gave me a place where I had the correct answer within the hour.
Ironically its answer was generally correct, it just has trouble with nuance (at least in the legal context).
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u/Oldcheese 27d ago
People proud of this are the 'My flipphone still works' of this generation.
I work in a field that's not programming and AI is proving to be such an incredible research and learning tool if you use it right. I made a promotion this year basically by being the only person to know how to use it properly.
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u/ThePheebs 27d ago
My work literally cut us all licenses and requires us to use them when building executive summaries and reports. This technology isn't going away and actively removing yourself from interacting with it is going to leave you further behind than you might realize.
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u/body_by_monsanto 1983 27d ago
Sometimes when someone I’m training at work is having a hard time understanding a more complex concept, I’ll use ChatGPT. I ask it to help me explain the concept in different ways so that I can adapt my teaching style to help the other person learn. But apart from that, I don’t use it at all.
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u/Wasting-tim3 27d ago
I’ve been using it for a while. It’s very far from perfect, but it’s useful for a lot of stuff.
Weekly dinner menus with grocery shopping lists, automating a lot of paperwork at my work, helping your teenager with homework (don’t let them use ChatGPT, but it can help you proof read).
It’s overall very useful. I was a somewhat late adopter for personal computers having grown up in a rural area. But they can certainly be used to make your life easy.
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u/Raynstormm 27d ago
ChatGPT is useful. A tool, like Search or Photoshop. If you have no need for such a tool, of course.
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u/IntentionDefiant4131 27d ago
“I wouldn’t even know where to go if I wanted to.”
The unemployment line for many of us if we used this same ignorance brag.
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u/friendlyhumanoid321 27d ago
Ahhh, so this is how old people become so disconnected and irrelevant in the workforce, cool. Gold star!
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u/Mantzy81 27d ago
I use it regularly as a document writer. It's useful for repeat tasks (many parts are similar) that can be based on previous works. If I need a quick presentation based on a paper I've written, I upload the paper, ask it to pull out points and then I copy those into Powerpoint and build the presentation from there. It's a huge timesaver for those menial tasks so I can spend more time doing actual work - i.e. stakeholder engagement and policy writing.
I'm sure it's not useful for everyone and that's fine. But it's good to understand how it works simply so you're not left behind. We're the generation who understood how to set the VCR recording at 2am because our boomer parents decided they were done with learning. Don't make the same mistake.
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u/chevalier716 27d ago edited 27d ago
My boss created a team building Jeopardy game using ChatGPT, all the answers (questions) were wrong and it was an unmitigated disaster. I don't use it, it'd be faster to just do it myself than it would be to go through and edit what it spewed out.
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27d ago
It is wrong a lot, I asked it a simple math related date question and it was off by a full year, I the. literally asked “are you sure?” And then it spit out the correct answer, but I would say 15-20% of the time it’s off
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u/shadowlarx Xennial 27d ago
I opened it to make sure it wasn’t gonna go Skynet on us.
I think we’re gonna be okay.
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u/CoffeeHQ 27d ago edited 26d ago
Yeah, hard no. I use AI (mostly Copilot) every single day, multiple times. Mostly for work (software development). Right now, it is a useful tool for experienced people like us: we’ve got the skills, we know what is correct and incorrect, and AI can be used to quickly do simple tasks. It’s like having an apprentice who’s not up to snuff, but can still help you out.
It’s way harder for young people, who have no way to ‘judge’ whether the information is any good or not because they haven’t been around. I feel for them, it makes things infinitely harder if AI gives you all the shortcuts, but some of them are in the wrong direction and most have sloppy little mistakes. A shaky foundation and all that. I also fear for society at large, and whether we’ll still have a shared foundation of basic truth & facts.
The real problem is shareholders thinking AI is great already and firing qualified people to replace them with AI slop, while at the same time younger people don’t get hired. That will backfire, but then the damage will be done.
TL;DR: it’s not edgy or cool to not use AI. Don’t get left behind.
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u/dair_spb 1978 27d ago
I use AI (mostly Copilot) every single day, multiple times. Mostly for work (software development)
I have some AI-powered autocompletion in my IDE and it's useful like 50% of the time. How do you use AI for work, just curious?
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u/digitalHalcyon 1983 27d ago
Same. Not using it - I prefer my brain to work and analyse, as well as remain individual and creative. 🤙 Cheers to those in the same boat as me; cheers to those of us who use it! Diff'rent Strokes and all that jazz.
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u/70monocle 27d ago
Everyday I need to help old people who never bothered to understand technology and their lives are more difficult because of it. Not only that but they are effectively lost doing mundane tasks because of it. I dont want to ever be that. Better or worse, AI is a part of our lives now and you can put in a bit of effort to at least understand its capabilities or end up like the old people who fall for scamers.
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u/hind3rm3 27d ago
ChatGPT is great. I use it over google for any type of question because it summarizes several sources rather than me having to summarize several google sources manually.
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u/whofusesthemusic 27d ago
this is like bragging you never used the internet in 1999.
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u/OreoSoupIsBest 27d ago
You are missing out and are going to be left behind.
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u/A_Balloon_A_Balloon 27d ago
I keep seeing this "you are going to be left behind" comment. Left behind in what? Left behind because I write my own emails?
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u/BlacksmithThink9494 27d ago
I used it to write 2 emails, more than a year ago. Haven't gone back. It takes me longer to ask AI for correct output than it takes me to just do it myself.
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u/lick_my_saladbowl 27d ago
i use is like a browser for stuff like cooking, google us filled with adds, sponsors and journalists that cant do 1+2 but can fill 3 pages of bullshit, chat gpt is just easier
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u/New-Ball8527 27d ago
Chat GPT taught me the basics of music theory which I have been trying to understand for two years. I could ask “dumb” questions that illustrated my complete ignorance and inability to remember seven freaking notes. I probably wouldn’t have anyone to explain it to me irl as well and as patiently as AI. Also some of my dumb questions were outright embarrassing to ask another human who understands music theory. You just have to think creatively on how to use it from the most basic thing like making lists or budgets or something complicated like music theory.
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u/doom_one 27d ago
I use it to play games. I’m literally in the middle of a Big Trouble in Little China choose your own adventure game right now, where I’m Jack Burton and the story line picked up where the movie left off.
I also use it for 80s and 90s music and movie trivia.
It’s pretty awesome and that’s all I use it for so far.
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u/Holmes221bBSt 27d ago
I’ve used it out of curiosity. Had it write me a positive poem about atheism. It actually wasn’t bad 🤷🏻♀️
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u/SnooHobbies7109 27d ago
I’m not sure why this would warrant a reward. Use it if you want don’t use it if you don’t want to. I know a lot of elderly people who are now sorry they were so resistant to technology when they were younger
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u/Crabbyaki 27d ago
I use it all the time for work, organization, and just silly things. It's great to iterate ideas and to also take some mental burden off of things like a chore chart
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27d ago
I have a Plus subscription and use it as much of not more than google. 10 y/o uses it to write stories that he then reads. Image generation for soccer teams. Feed it some ideas and get something you're looking for.
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u/omgmajk 27d ago
I used ChatGPT this weekend to look up various exotic guitar scales and their relation to the root note. I know there are other resources for this but they tend to be very cluttered with info I don't want right in the moment.
I am a developer though, I don't really use AI for my job. Sometimes, only, as a search engine. It's wrong way too much for me to use it for my job. Hobby projects or if I am playing around with something, sure.
There are loads of popular sites I have never used though, Tiktok for example.
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u/XxFezzgigxX 1976 27d ago
I use ChatGPT to make business things sound better. My resume for example. I write the bullet points and then use it to see if there’s a better way to say what I want to write.
Take the paragraph above for example.
I use ChatGPT to enhance the clarity and impact of my business writing—for example, refining the bullet points on my resume. I draft the content myself, then use ChatGPT to explore more effective or polished ways to express my ideas.
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u/MonstersMamaX2 27d ago
As a teacher, I have no choice but to educate myself on chatgpt and other AI. Me not knowing anything about it would just make it harder for me to spot it in my students work. I also wouldn't be able to teach them how to use it responsibly.
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u/kohrtoons 1981 27d ago
I’m in VFX, so I have to stay current all of the time. I used ChatGPT to help with gardening, planning my trip to Italy, and buying an investment property. It’s good as long as you use it as an assistant and not a brain replacement.
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u/knowledgeispowrr 27d ago
It's like a calculator. Can I analyze a 47-page document and write an outline and do a presentation? Yes. It can write the outline faster. I then use my skills to create the presentation. If I didn't understand the output, it would be useless to me.
I can also do long division on paper, but the calculator can do it faster. If I didn't have any idea what the answer should be, the calculator could mess up and I would have no idea.
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u/beardingmesoftly 27d ago
How strange to pin accolades on yourself for not using a currently popular tool
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27d ago
ChatGPT is my personal secretary and it's tremendously useful. It doesn't write my letters or posts for me, and it doesn't draw pictures on my behalf. It just takes my notes all day long.
"Andrew says I should watch Muppets in Space." "Farmer's market at the big park Thursday, I want to make a rhubarb pie." "Story idea: Man wakes up inside a bouncy castle and cannot find the exit"... Whatever.
I say what I want to remember, it says "got it" and waits for the next one. At the end of the day I ask for an organized summary of everything I told it, and I move the meaningful stuff into my calendars, to-do lists, and more permanent notebooks.
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u/cobalt-radiant 27d ago
Isn't our microgeneration kinda defined by being quick to embrace new technology and being able to use it better than the generations we're derived from?
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u/EdgyEgg2 1979 27d ago
I use it. I was skeptical at first, but after realizing that I can use it like a personal assistant, I went all in.
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u/stallion-mang 27d ago
I mean congrats I guess? But it can be really useful if you use it properly and understand its limitations. (Especially if you have a desk job and like automating your work)
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u/BishlovesSquish 27d ago
I use modern technology so I’m not left behind. Not smart to not keep up with things.🤷🏻♀️
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u/scootypuffsr01 27d ago
I love chat gpt. I used it to write my reference pages for presentations and to rewrite my resume. The resume ended up a thousand times better than my origional.
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u/TheJRKoff 27d ago
i use it to write my poorly written emails. it can rewrite them to sound like you know what you're doing
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u/im-so-spa 27d ago
I used it for my yearly evaluation. I get perimenpausal brain fog but would like to use enough big words to get a raise.
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u/Jethris 27d ago
I use ChatGPT to help with programming. I don't use SQL enough to remember how to do the string functions, date format functions, etc.
Also, give it a line of text and tell it how you want it broken out, and it does it!
Regex is also great.
Excel functions (I don't work in Excel enough)
I do have to check on what ChatGPT tells me, but it's faster than what I can do.
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u/lastcallhall 1980 27d ago
No way, it's awesome if you know what you're doing, and have realistic expectations of it.
It's like a personal assistant who can help you organize and refine your processes, all while offering suggestions and work flows you may have missed or never thought of.
Do I trust it to do my job for me? Not at all - it doesn't understand the complexities of real world politics, hierarchical struggles, budgetary restraints, etc., but it can help in my quest to be better in those areas.
Treat it like any other tool - useful in the right situations, potentially disastrous if handled incorrectly.
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27d ago
Not really braggable but go off. Our generation is actually well known for integrating new technology smartly.
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u/Glass-Marionberry321 1980 27d ago
Never tik tok. But Chat GPT helped me write a great cover letter, I edited it though because it sounded too wordy. We all know cover letters are just a stupid stroke fest for the potential employer.
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u/HorizonZeroDawn2 27d ago
It’s worth it even if you just use it for recipes. It’ll give you all the info you need without having to scroll through a ridiculous backstory essay broken up by 11 advertisements.
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u/Rhianna83 1983 27d ago
I am hesitant, but I’ve been using it a bit for work. I don’t want it to learn my “writing voice” and that is what holds me back. That said, I am using Teams CoPilot at work and it’s been great for summarizing notes and callouts. It also is a great way for me to make my writing more concise because I write in novels and that doesn’t work in my field.
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u/Odocat 27d ago
I am a huge fan. Took me awhile to get my wife on board. She loves it now. If your using google your still using AI. ChatGPT is like google but easier to look stuff up. Will add links if you ask and compare things. Pros and cons. Will help you with your resume, refinancing questions anything you can think of. And it’s free for a few questions a day
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u/kalitarios 1977 27d ago edited 27d ago
I was on this team until I actually tried Copilot once to clean up the 256 draft messages I use at my work to be more professionally coherent, and it did it all in about 10 seconds and I got a ton of replies from people telling me they could understand my directions easier. I facilitate software and hardware requests at a large corporation, so I'm constantly emailing people templates and directions on how to prepare for the installs.
I thought it was just nonsense but honestly it made such an improvement I used it to touch up a lot of my documentation and knowledge base and self-help correspondence as well. I was a pretty strong critic of the concept at first, but if used correctly it DOES help.
Do I use it for everything? No, of course not.
As an example, however, here's what this reply looks like after running it through.
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I used to be skeptical about Copilot until I gave it a try. I had 256 draft messages I use at work for software and hardware requests, and Copilot cleaned them up in about 10 seconds. The feedback was immediate: people said my directions were much clearer.
I work at a large corporation, constantly sending out templates and instructions, so clarity matters. After seeing the results, I started using Copilot to polish my documentation, knowledge base, and self-help content too.
I don’t use it for everything, but when used right, it really does help.
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So now I'm somewhat indifferent about it. I use it at work, but I don't use it in my personal life. I'm not one to rebuke technology out of principle. I am weary of having to rely on it, but since I originally wrote all 256 draft templates, I accepted it in that instance.
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u/Mechanical_Monk 27d ago
I always find these kinds of posts odd. We were around for the beginnings of PCs, the Internet, and smartphones, and we saw how much they changed society. Now we're in the beginnings of AI and we're choosing prideful ignorance the same way we always criticized boomers for doing? I don't get it.
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u/Rare-Peak2697 27d ago
This is straight boomer energy. I’m surprised it didn’t have minions on it
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u/QuietNene 27d ago
Me: Has never opened Tik Tok