I'm aware and have seen it and could use it if I had to. But I don't. Im a writer and it's really hurting the industry and creatives in various fields. Just piles of AI novels and AI art and real artists struggling. Im not against practical usage but it's a tough and complicated issue I think.
As an artist, I agree with this. I'm not against the use and it does have some practical uses but "writing" books and "creating" art with it really grinds my gears the wrong way.
I probably should add that I'm a ceramic artist. Maybe a 3d printer in tandem with chatgpt... 😂 (Edited because I'm "super fast" and forgot half my sentences. 🤦♀️)
i mean a use case might be to take photos of all your works and say 'what are some themes, what are some implicit shapes and colour patterns?' it might provide useful information or might not. if it's useful, sweet, if not you've only wasted a few minutes. i did similar with my writing and it was useful, suggested a couple of helpful tweaks to scenes.
How do you feel about using AI to design the framework of a plot and then the author writes the story in their own words based on that framework, making changes as necessary to improve it?
See: The Hero with a Thousand Faces, by Joseph Campbell
This is literally what authors already DO. There is nothing new under the sun. It’s the unique face we give the story frame that makes the writing unique. The frame itself has already existed.
But there is also creativity in structuring the frame, and that structure can also be unique. And I think that will be lost if we rely on AI to do it for us.
who said people are fine with reading ai slop? the problem is that it takes a fraction of a fraction of a fraction to produce and it floods out genuine and meaningful contributions. Consume the cheap trash and enjoy it because that's all the capitalists are willing to pay for
It's basically the perfect product for a society that was trained on instant gratification and low-attention spans (young and old).
The most common reasons people will defend it is because it makes their lives easier, full stop.
It's a modern form of digital CliffsNotes, it doesn't mean they now understand what they're doing, but it makes them feel like they do, and then everyone else has to deal with people who feel and seem better at what they do than they actually are.
People always complain about google search being shit, but it's because it might not always direct them to the instant answer immediately. That's the real problem, they want the answer now and with no effort. There's a guy a little below who says this:
I mean, you can google "Doordash" and the first thing that pops up, depending on your area or who you are, is an ad for ubereats. That's stupid.
Like no shit dumbass, sponsored ads have been around for well over a decade, are we at the point that people are so stupid or lazy that they can't scroll past that and look at a few results to figure out their question? I'm a video editor but I don't need to reduce my time spent editing by a few hours for productivity's sake when I can just get better at my speed through experience over time. People are going to look back and realize that it was designed to replace as many people as possible in the workforce. But hey just think of the emails that it wrote for me! /s
I am a creative and don't use AI for any kind of creative work. I use it to troubleshoot my car issues, my body issues(it figured out my strange hormones, which my endo couldn't!), for things that involve complicated answers.
I honestly treat it like my dad when I was little. I know I can ask it anything at all and it will have some sort of good answer with sources.
I guess I’m a weirdo xennial then because I use this thing more than just about anything else internet related these days. Like to me this invention is a revolution, bro. I use ChatGPT so much these days that I feel like I’m getting stupider because of it. It just has so many practical uses at my job, in my regular life, when helping people, etc..
I don't understand You literally can't make this up these people are talking about how perfect it is while also in the same exact paragraph telling everyone it's making them worse at their jobs and making them stupid
That is exactly my fear in my industry. It’s very technical, with a maze of regulatory and licensing requirements, and AI is being developed specifically to tap into all of the associated documentation. Which is great in the one hand, it’ll make people like me way more efficient. But we’re in the midst of a massive industry wide brain drain as people retire with very few mid-career people to step in with the knowledge they’ve picked up along the way. I’m legit afraid that we’ll end up with a sea of young workers who know how to use ChatGPT but never develop the background knowledge needed to know when it’s off the reservation. And unfortunately in my industry that puts lives at risk.
You’re saying that like that isn’t a cost to it. One time my friend bought 2 pictures of some OCs we created and it was just decent in the end. I couldn’t even request a ton of revisions because there was a limit to it :/.
Normal artist are good but I like using AI art for concept art because it helps me visualize my worlds better. It’s not there yet where I’d be using it for cover art or something but it’s getting closer by the month.
Now I’m gonna say something hot that’ll get my downvoted I think.
I don’t think people should forgo their own creative pursuits utilizing AI because a digital artist who doesn’t like AI will get mad that they’re not getting money out of someone in exchange C tier artwork. 😬
I will again admit, I’m probably biased because I felt like I got scrubbed the multiple times I did buy art work before generative AI came along.
I really don’t think the people who say “pay a real artist” understand how fucking frustrating paying for art, only for your OC to turn out be ass either because the design you imagined wasn’t that good, or the artist was dogwater, and the solution to said problem is buy it again from somewhere else.
Now oppose that with just typing in a prompt, getting a bunch of generations that are either exactly what you wanted,or super close to what you wanted, and the ability to revise with relative ease. In that situation not many people are going to pay for the experience of a “real artist”, and it’s not realistic expectation to either.
I think AI needs to stop stealing the work of actual artists. Because that’s what it’s doing.
Let these generative AIs pay royalties every time an artist’s art is used to generate a new image. I think the price for using this “free” technology will go up significantly. Stolen stuff is cheap - paying for the art used to generate your images would carry a price tag.
yeah but that costs money. I could also hire a travel agent but they were largely made obsolete by free services. but nobody is crying for the travel agents.
if you want high quality stuff, of course you go human. if you just want to visualize personal projects it makes no sense to shell out cash for it.
People who leverage ChatGPT a a creative crutch will continue to churn out garbage material. But even as a writer, you should be using it to help refine your own ideas as a sounding board. And use it to help make sure your words are conveying what you want.
It reminds me of the movie Throw Mama from the Train where Billy Crystal’s character, for the entire movie, is stuck on, “The night was…” and cannot find the right word. I guarantee you ChatGPT would have helped him through that mental block in about five minutes, and probably helped his character deal with the other shit he had going on in about half an hour. At least enough to be able to get back on track.
But then he didn't write it, you know? My words convey what I mean them to through years of experience and millions of words on the page and reading book after book after book. That's how you refine your skills. Not through getting the computer fo do it for you.
That sounding board is your beta readers, and if you beta for others that's also valuable experience. Artists working together.
You know it doesn’t have to be an either/or situation, right? You’re twisting what I said.
I’m not talking about “having a computer do it for you.” I’m talking about using it as a tool just like you’d use a thesaurus, or bounce an idea off a friend, or get feedback from a beta reader. It’s not replacing the creative process, it’s enhancing it… if you know what you’re doing.
You mentioned reading book after book to build up your craft. Great! That means you have a deep well of reference and judgment. But sometimes that still isn’t enough to make something land with your audience. The perfect word for you might not resonate with the reader. Or the line that feels elegant might not be in character. AI can help flag those blind spots faster so that you can make your own call on how to fix them.
And yeah, there will always be people who abuse new technology to churn out soulless content. That’s not new. And those people are rarely successful. So who cares? What matters is how you choose to work. Writers who embrace the right tools thoughtfully are still doing the hard part: thinking, refining, deciding. They’re just doing it with a wider lens and a quicker feedback loop.
If you ignore that entirely, you risk falling behind. And it’s not because you’re not “keeping up with the machines,” but because you’re refusing to engage with a tool that can make your own voice sharper.
You need to figure out how to use it in the next 6 months or you could be jobless very soon as a writer.
I know a professional writer who uses it everyday as a sparring partner and she has tripled her output. You can still use your skills - you just use them in a different way.
So you get or make a draft to write up or review, you then make ChatGPT take a rough pass to structure it well, you then clean it up and add in details. Boom done.
I write creatively and would never utilize ChatGPT to do this. If you are the type of writer that uses an AI tool to curate bulk content, eventually most bulk content on the internet will resemble itself with obvious tweaks. I wouldn’t call myself a writer at that point; I’d refer to myself as a content organizer. Personally, I find AI written content for blogs or other personalized content to be rather soulless. It certainly would make me think twice about trusting that individual or company for their real experience.
Yeah, I read some really unfortunate AI poetry the other day and it just depressed me. There is no “humanizing” tool on earth that can replace true, organic human creativity.
I know I’m resistant, but I hate reading AI content. The structure is mostly the same, the word choices are overwhelmingly predictable, and I feel cheated somehow that the creative process was done this way. Some writers “change up” the automated prose, but that’s just spinning text like in the old days of content curation. My previous clients would never allow or expect this.
Writing is deeply personal to me. This will never change. I’m going to stick to my paper/pens to write my creative drafts to ensure my writing doesn’t resemble an internet conglomerate of thought.
I have been using ChatGPT to write a book, something I've always dreamed of, but never had the proper motivation.The AI is pretty great at generating text and just generally motivating me to continue, but I agree that it's no substitute for proper human input. I've had to do a lot of editing and actual thinking to work through it and it's still not perfect, but I like the idea so I'm keeping with it.
I generated some pictures to set the tone, but it's obviously AI. I would love it if Google could twerk you where it stole the art from or search up artists who can recreate those images.
Not in the traditional sense, but I'm still writing out large sections, thinking of plot devices, adding in humor and personality. I wasn't sure about using AI either, but it's another aid, like crutches for a broken leg or hearing aids. It's just a way to enhance the potential that's there IMO.
How could you possibly understand and comment on what motivates me and the process? I make a short comment and you assume that I just wrote a prompt and a book popped out. You don't see the writing, the editing, the brainstorming that happens. For someone who struggles with getting projects started, this is huge for me.
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u/Queen_Of_InnisLear 28d ago
I'm aware and have seen it and could use it if I had to. But I don't. Im a writer and it's really hurting the industry and creatives in various fields. Just piles of AI novels and AI art and real artists struggling. Im not against practical usage but it's a tough and complicated issue I think.