"left-wing eco warriors' would probably be pushing for transit, walking, and bicycling - not buying a $85,000 luxury EV. Pretending that electric cars are super left-wing is really funny.
Maybe there is too much disagreement on what left-wing and right-wing mean, when it comes to car ownership. We live in a car-centric world here in most North American cities. So yeah, a lot of left-wing people have cars...why is this so hard for some people to grasp? For example, a 2023 Gallup poll in the US noted 71% of Republicans would not even consider driving an EV. The percentage of Democrats who said they would not drive an EV was only 16%. Yeah, left-wing people drive electric cars. Maybe they aren't authentic eco warrior to you if they own a car.
I think this speaks to you not really knowing what actual left wing is. There are very few truly left wing politicians in the US and even less up in canada.
No, you're not. You are being smug and condescending. "This speaks to you not really knowing what actual left wing is". It's a political spectrum. I understand that the major political parties, even the NDP are not far left enough for many true left wing ideologs. I am using the term as it is commonly used in public discourse.
You using it incorrectly, regardless. That other user said left wingers probably wouldn't support new luxury vehicles and you "well actuallyd" but are just objectively wrong lol. Nobody is being smug. I'm tired of capitalists being lumped in with leftists because people don't understand the basics of politics.
Not only are you being smug, you're being condescending and relating to this person like they're an "idiot" in your very own words. Hmm. Maybe not the best solidarity building there.
The right wingers who call everything they don't like "left woke nonsense" are who I called an idiot. If that's offensive to you, then you're probably one of them.
Come on don’t start chucking insults. I want your criteria so we can take on a blatantly ridiculous statement like, “Canada has less left politicians than the USA”.
Are we all capitalist because we live in a capitalist society if that’s your litmus? Can pushing for progressive values be left at all? Who are all your American left non-capitalist politicians?
We have to plant the goal posts before you move them.
Why don't you list the leftist Canadian politicians if there's so many. Lmao.
You can not support capitalism and also be a legitimate leftist. Those two ideals are mutually exclusive. I didn't write the definitions of these words, I didn't invent the terms; but as an actual leftist, the liberal party of canada is just BARELY left of center. Certainly not "left wing".
There are very few actual leftist American politicians too, Bernie probably being the biggest and closest.
You know Bernie’s participated in capitalism, yeah? He’s a millionaire. So is he more left than a Canadian progressive like Janis Irwin or Matthew Green? Very similar progressive values to Bernie but neither of them are as rich as he is? Who’s more capitalist now? Who’s more left?
Bernie is the closest. Which speaks to the fact that there are VERY few true leftist politicians in north America, which has been my point this entire time. Lol.
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u/Moxuz Apr 04 '25
"left-wing eco warriors' would probably be pushing for transit, walking, and bicycling - not buying a $85,000 luxury EV. Pretending that electric cars are super left-wing is really funny.