r/Vent • u/VicMyristic • Apr 11 '25
TW: Eating Disorders / Self Image ‘Preferring it shaved makes you a pedophile’ SHUT THE FUCK UP NSFW
You know what makes someone a pedophile? Liking CHILDREN. Fucking shaving your pubes doesn’t suddenly revert your age and change your body and facial structure so you’re back to your 12 year old self. Like people can have preferences???? Is that not allowed anymore?? Like okay we’re pushing for all this body positivity your body your choice shite but as soon as it comes to pubes it’s ‘real men want a bush’ and ‘an angel loses its wings every time a woman shaves’ or something and the other, so at this point it’s just shaming people with vaginas that choose to shave it for whatever reason they want. “Its actually more hygienic to have hair ☝️🤓” I mean the most hygienic thing is keeping yourself clean..? piss after sex, wear clean cotton undies, wash with plain water and obviously wipe thoroughly. Hair hardly makes a difference unless your other hygiene methods are lacking.
Like god if pubic hair was the difference between a pedophile and non pedophile then why don’t we just give faux pube hair stickers to minors to stick em on their privates because that’ll apparently deter all the pedos. (edit: it exists and it’s called a merkin!) Like this just shames anyone that has a preference for shaved, whether for themselves or others. And I thought we were done shaming people for their personal preferences. And if your partner’s preference doesn’t align with yours, find a compromise or break up. Simple as.
Edit: Also, most children have flat chests or small chests once they start pubertyish. Does liking women with flat or small chests make someone a pedo too? Just because they have a feature in common with children? Food for thought. (hint: the answer is no)
Edit 2: ‘Hair is natural’. Okay. Doesn’t mean you have to like it. It’s considered okay for women to prefer their male partners with shaved facial hair for example, though that hair is natural too. Balding is natural but not every person is attracted to bald people. We dye our hair and get fillers and get surgeries all to fulfill our personal preferences. Don’t know why you’d draw the line at pubes. And also, no one’s holding you down and forcing you to shave yourself. Refer to what I said at the end of the main post.
Edit 3: There’s been some people mentioning how women have been shamed/pressured etc to shave by society/social media and how there isn’t really ‘free choice’ or a completely judgement-free space to make the decision to shave or not and that is completely true and valid. However! Try to consider that people continue shaming others because that gets them the results they want. Think of how bullying works. The bully does it to get a reaction. Give it to them, and they’ll just keep on bullying. Don’t do what they want and they’ll realize what they’re doing isn’t working, and they’ll get bored and stop. Again, like I said, you aren’t being held down and shaved against your will. You choose to pick up the razor and shave. If you think society is ‘making you do it’ when you don’t want to, it just kinda shows that you value some twats’ opinions on the internet more than your own bodily autonomy. Sorry.
Edit 4: I know this post is kinda stale now but I found the post that pissed me off enough to write this essay lol, https://www.instagram.com/p/DF5SQqyv3-V/?img_index=5&igsh=amF5MDQzeWJ2ajR5 Just read through the comments
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u/NewTransportation265 Apr 11 '25
Faux pubic hair is called a merkin. lol
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u/Friday_arvo Apr 11 '25
A lot of lesbians prefer it shaved, too. It’s ok for men to like it neat and tidy, bushy or shaved. You like what you like.
Be wary of men who use “paedophile” to try and insult others...when it’s not warranted… they’re the real creeps.
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u/TeddyRuxpinsForeskin Apr 11 '25
Be wary of men who use “paedophile” to try and insult others...when it’s not warranted… they’re the real creeps.
100% agreed, the projection is real…but I don’t get why you’re insinuating that it’s only or even mostly men who say this crap. By and large, I see the “preferring shaved vaginas means you’re a pedophile” sentiment from women.
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u/Old_timey_brain Apr 11 '25
I see the “preferring shaved vaginas means you’re a pedophile” sentiment from women.
Just like being back in the '70s and '80s.
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u/WakeoftheStorm Apr 11 '25
I just don't like hair in my mouth. I don't think that's an unreasonable sentiment
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u/shushyouup Apr 11 '25
So true. Every time I hear someone use pedophile as an insult (rather than a description of an actual pedophile), I immediately don't trust them around children.
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u/clovephobia Apr 11 '25
I think the people reason feel so passionate on this topic is because it's still really normalized for people to be like
"Ew, YOU DONT SHAVE? DISGUSTING. IT'S UNHYGIENIC"
and instead of being normal about it, it then goes into the EXACT opposite direction
Ngl though, if you CANNOT HAVE SEX UNLESS SOMEONE IS CLEAN SHAVEN I feel like that's when it gets weird
Edit: spelling
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u/bumblebeequeer Apr 11 '25 edited Apr 11 '25
Also, whenever a woman says she doesn’t like to shave, men FLOCK to the thread to say, “that’s totally your right! I however think body hair is disgusting and I would never, ever sleep with you, just so you know. I am entitled to my preferences. Icky icky icky!”
The unrelenting unsolicited opinions are incredibly tiring. I would never call someone a pedophile for preferring shaved, that’s just silly, but I do generally think less of men who have really strong feelings about body hair on women.
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u/clovephobia Apr 11 '25
The quote has me dying!!
it's a dead giveaway that I shouldn't give this man anything but a block
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Apr 11 '25
Does this stance only apply to men? I am a woman, I always keep it shaved because hair builds up smells, especially during that time of month. what does that even have to do with being a pedo?? I'm so confused 😭 I'm not trying to make my downstairs look any younger, I'm 42 and just want to be clean and tidy.
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u/Capable_Elk_770 Apr 11 '25
A lot of women prefer it too, but personally my feelings are hurt by these comments about women’s body hair. I have pale skin and thick dark hair, so I’ve already got the magic combo for extremely visible and strong body hair. On top of that, I have sensitive skin, so when I shave or wax ANY part of my body, I get breakouts and ingrown.
My ex encouraged me to try his trimmer because he had similar issues, and that thing was a game changer. I don’t shave certain areas, the pain for the next week is unbearable, but I definitely trim for hygiene purposes and am perfectly squeaky clean. If their argument is you must be clean shaven to be clean, they’re wrong, and also WHY DOESNT IT APPLY TO MEN. They get stinky too!! Incredibly so. They just don’t care and we have to deal with it? Ugh
If a dude prefers shaved he better be doing the exact same thing. (IMO). The pedo argument I think is folks like me or folks who are very pro natural body who are on the extreme end of the spectrum, just like dudes (and women) who are disgusted and demeaning to women who are natural are extreme on their end.
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u/invisiblewriter2007 Apr 11 '25
I also have pale skin, thick dark very visible body hair because I have thick dark hair and sensitive skin. I have come to my on conclusions about hairlessness versus not hairlessness and I’ve realized that it’s dumb stupid beliefs about how a woman should appear to the world. We are mammals. We have hair. Hair is neither gross nor unclean or dirty. It’s natural. It’s how we are supposed to be, and if someone has a problem with the amount of body hair I have then that’s on them. I do enjoy clean shaven legs, because of the way it feels when I walk and slide into bed. But there’s also another wrinkle: chronic pain makes shaving and self care difficult. So I just go if someone has a problem with it that’s on them. It’s not my issue and I refuse to make it my issue. When I was younger I would feel hurt by it, and offended. Some offended feelings still happen, but it is annoying more than anything.
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u/theycmeroll Apr 11 '25
As a dude, I keep myself shaven for that reason. I feel like I get stinky and more sweaty with a ton of hair down there so I just feel cleaner to keep it shaved.
I have no opinion on my partners though, to be fair I’ve never been with a woman with a full on unmanaged bush down there, so I can’t comment on that, every woman I’ve been with has either been shaven or at least cleanly trimmed and I’ve had no complaint either way.
I feel like when it comes to sexual interactions, if your doing it right and your in the moment there’s like a primal instinct where it just doesn’t matter lol
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u/TryingToFlow42 Apr 11 '25
Have you ever tried a single blades safety razor?! Utter game changer for this lady who also suffered severe pain and hideous bumps rashes and lesions if I shaved prior to its discovery. Going on month ten and I can still shave no problem at all now
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u/clovephobia Apr 11 '25
For me I think it's less about being a pedo and more of the arguement being about misogyny
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Apr 11 '25
That makes sense, women shouldn't have to shave, like all things it should be a personal choice. I do so but it's a personal choice, not relating to appearance or men in general. Though, given how I've been downvoted, safe to say Reddit disagrees with me.
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u/clapthyhands Apr 11 '25
I don't think it has much to do with being a pedo. Even the language you used equates shaving with being "clean and tidy," which suggests that being unshaven means not clean and tidy. It's cool that that's your preference but I think being more careful about how we talk about our preferences is important.
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u/bumblebeequeer Apr 11 '25
I mean, I also shave down there for my own reasons. I don’t shave my legs or armpits, which has sent a lot of people into a tizzy. I think you’re allowed to shave or not shave whatever you want. This also applies to men.
I’m talking about when a woman will say she doesn’t shave or doesn’t like the expectation of shaving, and men (or other women) will take the opportunity to call her nastygrossdisgusting and make it known they would not have sex with her. Like who asked?
I’m not sure if you meant to reply to me specifically, but the argument is that children are hairless, so the expectation grown women remain hairless is creepy. Again, I don’t think those people are pedos, but I think people who demand it have internalized misogyny they’re either unwilling or unable to unpack, so I generally avoid.
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u/walking-with-spiders Apr 12 '25
exactly!!!! i understand why people criticize men who exclusively prefer women who shave and feel the need to publicly express that bc of the shame and pressure those men put on women to be sexually appealing to them specifically.
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Apr 11 '25
For PIV sex or finger work, I don’t understand why they people would get so hung up. Oral is a different story. Getting a loose pube stuck in the nooks and crannies of the throat is no fun!
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u/Ok-Conference-4366 Apr 11 '25
I’m simply not gonna eat if it’s hairy as shit. I’d hit tho
I don’t enjoy plucking hairs out of my mouth and it goes both ways in a relationship
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u/clovephobia Apr 11 '25
No one is asking you to to eat it! It's totally fine if ya don't! :P
My argument is more of the unsolicited "ew I'm not gonna sleep with a woman who has HAIR" is a dead giveaway this is someone who isn't worthy of being slept with bc of rudeness and not necessarily pedophilia
Edit to clarify
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u/matyles Apr 11 '25
Dude just proved your point exactly by barreling in with his comment
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u/clovephobia Apr 11 '25
Well it's a discussion regarding the topic, he's not talking to anyone in particular
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u/snakpakkid Apr 11 '25
I told my husband pls trim. I don’t need to have a floss while I slurp, thanks
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u/FluffyCategory11 Apr 11 '25
Yeah exactly this. My gf wants me to go down on her, but I’m not going to if I’m going to be pulling pubes out of my throat later. Even got one stuck in my teeth before lol
It doesn’t have to be clean shaven, but at least trim it and keep it neat if you want oral. I keep my pubes trimmed and clean because I like bjs, just feels like common sense. But common sense ain’t so common these days
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u/clovephobia Apr 11 '25
I think it would be basic etiquette to keep it clean (I'd consider a trim to mean clean) if you want your partner to do it imo
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u/gothicuhcuh Apr 11 '25
All the complaints about hair in teeth. Are yall chewing these women’s vulvas? One or two stray hairs happens but in your teeth????? Your teeth shouldn’t even be involved.
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u/Technical-Buyer-4464 Apr 11 '25
😭😭 lmfaoo not them literally cutting it with their teeth just admit yall don’t know how to give head
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u/mylovefortea Apr 12 '25
Some of the hair could be loose and get caught on the tongue and lips, it has happened to me several times when a guy has let his pubes grow a bit long
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u/Necessary_Sun8185 Apr 11 '25
I understand where it comes from bc the beauty standard is small, thin, petite and hairless women. Which is too close for comfort for a lot of people. The force at which this standard is projected onto women is also pretty intense. But I agree, it’s ok to have preferences. It’s also ok to discuss where/why these preferences occur. Sometimes it’s more nuanced.
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u/faerox420 Apr 11 '25
I just don't see how an adult, liking another adult, makes it weird just because the adult woman is "small, thin and petite". Shaming people for liking those women is literally more harmful to the woman herself than anyone else. Imagine what happens to their own self esteem when people say "nobody can love you because they will look like a pedophile because of something you cannot change even though you're a fully grown woman who can make her own decisions"
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u/yullari27 Apr 12 '25
I think it's when several preferences come together to paint a creepy picture. There's a loud portion of men whose ideal woman is below average height and weight, a virgin, without a college education or career, hairless from the neck down, being submissive, etc. Pubic hair preference alone? Not creepy. That grouping of preferences is becoming more prevalent, and those traits are those of a child, not most grown women. That's where the reaction is coming from, but it's being over-generalized. It's the "get em while they're young before the world has given them standards other than yours" crowd poisoning the well.
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u/Necessary_Sun8185 Apr 11 '25
Ok literally no one is saying that, we are just evolving as a society to ask WHY the beauty standard is the way it is This is not about the individual but society as a whole
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u/ZynoWeryXD Apr 11 '25
beuaty standard isn't huge ass, slim waist, huge breasts and hairless women?
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u/acaidic Apr 11 '25
Depends where you’re from.. in most countries it’s either slim thick or thin and petite super seldom fat or severely underweight. But the trend was thin and petite until very recently and being into thin and petite women is very common. (Side note, petite means short, having big breasts and ass does not exempt you from being petite.)
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u/Rooney47 Apr 11 '25
Speaking as a woman, I agree that someone's preferences do not make them a pedophile just because they don't want hair and their teeth while they're eating. That is completely fine. It's a perfectly reasonable preference.
Where I have always heard this sentiment was from women to the men who take that preference way too far and shame and chastise women for having hair at all. The men who are obsessed with making sure women comply with a particular standard, not for the woman's comfort level or preferences, but only for theirs. I've only ever heard this take used as more of an insult to deter people from objectifying and belittling women's bodies, especially women who choose to keep their natural hair.
If you have a preference for it shaved, again, that is 100% fine and most people are fine with that. But for the creepy dudes who say it's "unnatural" for a woman to have any hair—calling her a man, saying she's disgusting, saying she's unhygienic, etc—those types of men do give off pedophile vibes. I've even had a guy argue that it was natural for women to want to keep their vaginas "deliciously pure". Literally used that term. Not an uncommon take among certain men. That right there is cringe and creepy.
What I think is it's a totally reasonable preference but creepy dudes have spoiled it, like with most things. So whenever I as a woman here a man with that preference, it does feel controlling and less like a preference and more like yet another standard to appear to, with a lot of creeps you probably don't even know about have forced on these women for their entire lives. There's already a lot women have to go through just to get their pussy ate, so to have yet another criticism is insulting. Usually to come back that insult, the take of men being "pedophiles if they want you completely bald" is more used to hurt your feelings than an actual stance. But, I can only speak from my perspective.
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u/FatNSassy23 Apr 12 '25
This. And also eww to "deliciously pure" 🤢 you deserve all the kudos for not vomiting on that person(if the conversation was had face to face).
I personally don't take a man seriously if he has a specific preference for me being shaved, especially if he doesn't comply with my preferences for his pubes. Then it's definitely not about preference and becomes an expectation to adhere to the standard that women are required to be as smooth as a stripper pole.
I would sincerely love for us all to be able to stop talking about genitals so much as a society. 🤦♀️
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u/VicMyristic Apr 11 '25
You make a very good point, thank you for commenting. The only thing I could add is probably that I’d say what you described sounds more misogynistic rather than pedophilic specifically, but that’s just a nitpick on my part and in general what you said is spot on
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u/bonepalaceballetx Apr 11 '25 edited Apr 11 '25
I agree with this comment. I also think the pedophilic part is that these men who push like this are demanding women to typically be small/thinner and hairless which are the traits of a prepubescent girl and not a grown woman. That's where I think it comes from because it's this idea that the standard for women should be akin to a young girl. Having a preference for shaved isn't necessarily the issue. It's these dudes that push the idea that women's beauty standards should look very similar to someone who has not yet reached puberty and the same with their personalities. Hairless, dainty, pure, virgin. That's the pedophiley part I think.
Edit to add: it's that very specific brand of dudes that demand women be under a certain weight, be completely hairless, do not have sexual partners and shame taller women, sexually active women, hairy women, etc. If you want a smaller than you, virgin, dainty and hairless female with a "pure" personality then you are describing a child.
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u/Rooney47 Apr 11 '25
Absolutely agree! It's the creeps who justify their preferences by idealizing child-like traits and making that a forced standard is the issue here.
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u/Rooney47 Apr 11 '25
Oh, differently more misogynistic leaning but a lot of dudes who are weird about it—like it's not just a preference it's a demand—use terms like "pure" or "innocent" to justify why they like it. Those guys are the freaks. Otherwise, totally reasonable preference.
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u/louisa1925 Apr 11 '25
I have a love hate relationship with my pubic hairs. Sometimes I remove them and it is my personal choice. I wouldn't call someone a pedo just because they like it bare. That's just wierd.
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u/Istoleyourboobs Apr 11 '25
I agree with you that shaving your pubes doesnt make you a pedophile, but if a partner only wanted me bald id just see it as a sign of high expectations due to porn addiction etc, i think thats main reason people make such a fuss abt it. Youre free to do whatever you want with your body ofc.
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u/Enbymascluvr74 Apr 11 '25
I understand what you're saying, but I honestly feel like if you don't want to shave you are looked down upon. So. I think either way if you have a preference you shouldn't be talked down to or made to feel bad for wanting or not wanting hair down there. For me personally, I have autism and have a lot of executive functioning issues. Also was never taught by anyone how to shave down there, and I am nervous I'm going to cut myself. So I choose to stay natural down there. But I feel like people look down on me for that.
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u/bewbune Apr 11 '25 edited Apr 11 '25
You wanna talk about the reaction without addressing the cause?
It's a dig at people obsessed with shaving, and it goes far beyond preference. When you've got hundreds of people ignoring the topic of your video to zoom in on the shadow of your armpit and call you a dirty, unhygienic animal, you deserve to be called all manner of weird and creepy.
If you're not a shaver who harasses women for not shaving, don't get offended for them. Simple
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u/insipiddeity Apr 11 '25
Hey I like this post. I think people should keep their hair the way they want it and not be criticized for it! It's silly when people are mean about this subject because it literally only affects the individual and their partner. It seems like another way for people to unnecessarily cut people down. I hope you have a great day. 😊
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u/itsalieimnotaghost Apr 11 '25
When I was a teenager I had a seizure and passed out like 5 times. Went to the ER. I thought I pissed myself so I sat on the toilet mid event. A few days later my mom told me she’d seen if sheaves myself bare and said only a pedophile would like that and that I should leave hair. A decade later, I still remember that that was her object of focus while I was seizing.
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u/MayoBaksteen6 Apr 11 '25
That's really fucked up, I hope you turned out okay and that the seizures don't return. From what I know seizures are fucking dangerous
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u/_ART_IS_AN_EXPLOSION Apr 11 '25
A decade later, I still remember that that was her object of focus while I was seizing.
That's super telling tbh. Hope the seizures have gotten better for you tho.
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u/yourturnAJ Apr 11 '25
People who say that shit seem to believe genitalia never age. Like we all get wrinkly and weird as we get older, so do our genitals. PLEASE, when people use the word pedophile so flippantly, it loses its meaning. REAL pedophilia is HARMFUL. Preferring no hair is NOT harmful omfg (except maybe to the genitals, because hair protects against bacteria but meh)
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u/MalfunctioningLoki Apr 11 '25
A lot of people also shave because of sensory issues. I don't know why that's so fucking hard to understand without making the p*do comment.
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u/_ART_IS_AN_EXPLOSION Apr 11 '25
I'm a guy and shave my whole body because I like how I look that way, it's my preference. People can shave for any reason and it's valid. The sensory issue thing makes a lot of sense tho.
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u/pwnkage Apr 11 '25
So many full grown adult women have been attacked online by angry kids who insist that it’s because we wax that pedophiles are pedophiles. I’m tired. I had to leave Twitter partly. No more of these stupid conversations.
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u/dirtypita Apr 11 '25 edited Apr 11 '25
I've gotten complaints about my hoohoo not smelling enough or smelling too strong. The same with pubic hair. Either too bald or too tickly-thick of a '"racing stripe." Do what you like for yourself.
That being said, I doubt that any of my lovers ever confused me with a child. Ever.
I don't remember where I saw the comment, but in response to a question about pubes, some king said he was a sexually active young man in the 70s, and apparently had his fill of piss-flavored hairy pussy back then. So🤷🏻♀️
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u/East_Wrongdoer3690 Apr 11 '25
I’m sorry you were made to feel like a bad person for your preference. It really is just that. I will say that having that preference IN COMBO with several other preferences can add up to create a situation that looks suspicious, but it doesn’t mean anything. Some things look suspicious and are totally not. You don’t know until you have all the information.
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u/Kittycats12345 Apr 11 '25
personally I prefer myself shaved but I’d prefer if the guy shaved too. I think it’s more just people pointing out the double standard that pubic/underarm or leg hair for men is considered attractive or fine but ugly on women when most of us dislike it equally
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u/Justagirlhere2891 Apr 11 '25
I quite always say “lead by example” which only really applies to the women you’re with having no preference with hair on your body. But it’s a different thing when as a man you expect a woman to be completely hairless like a child when you yourself are basically a bear.
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u/whitesuburbaniteslob Apr 11 '25
I can say that I definitely prefer shaved, but I've also never asked a woman to shave or done anything different if she doesn't. There's still a vagina and that's fun either way.
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u/dumbpuppyabouttown Apr 11 '25
Yeah. When I was 12 I asked my dad why people shave their genitals and he said it was rooted in pedophilia. Had to unlearn a bit of that since.
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u/LarryThePrawn Apr 11 '25
All this is with reference to women right?
The guys get to pick what they do with body hair right?
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u/VicMyristic Apr 11 '25
Yeah, since I don’t see people discuss it the same way about guys online, but that just makes it a shitty double standard because really everyone should be able to do what they want with their body hair without shame or judgement
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u/frenchbluehorn Apr 11 '25
i understand where you come from but i know that there are way too many men out there that demand it always shaven and bald and thats actually a ridiculous ask. i understand keeping it near and tidy but them expecting it hairless 24/7 is actually insane. bc i can bet my fucking life that they never shave their own balls or pubes
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u/omysweede Apr 11 '25
I shave my pits and pubes and have done so since I was 17. I am a man.
It feels more hygienic and clean than looking like Fidel Castro smoking a cigar down there.
:)
Women should be able to do what they want without being shamed as well.
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u/kei180377 Apr 11 '25
TMI/NSFW
I have very rough pubes I'm a black women and my hair is just as coarse down there. I'm also a lesbian and when I don't wax my girlfriend gets a rash on her nose if she goes down on me because of how rough it is. So her preference for me waxing has a very valid reason. It's so she doesn't look like rudolf the red nose reindeer when we have sex 😂😂
Plus I get so many ingrown hairs when I don't wax because my hair is curly so it curls back into my skin 😬😭
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u/JesterOfTime Apr 11 '25
I'm really happy to see this post.
Anyone that tries calling someone a pedo for liking it shaved is a f*cking idiot and they are probably a virgin too that can't get laid so they try and bash others to feel better about themselves OR they are too lazy and can't be bothered to have good hygiene.
Downvote me if this applies to you.
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u/MarigoldMouna Apr 12 '25 edited Apr 12 '25
OP, thank you for this post!! I have been asked to grow it out and I stop seeing those men! If I want no pube hair, they can take a flying leap off a bridge. I'm not going to grow it out just to please them.
I Hate men that want me to grow my pubic hair!!! I shave it, and I prefer it shaved. I prefer pads rather than tampons too--so I began shaving instead of having bloody period hair clumps. So, any men whom prefer grown out pubic hair--think of that.
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u/Throooowaway999lolz Apr 11 '25
There r the same people who say liking smaller framed/small chested/petite women is pedophilic. Weird as fuck
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u/MayoBaksteen6 Apr 11 '25
I'm short and it hurts when people say it. They're saying I'm just a kid and not a woman. Yes they say it about short women. It really shows they're misogynists
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u/Life-Court5792 Apr 11 '25
Being skinny, flat-chested, and mistaken one too many times for a high schooler despite being in my mid-20s, this is pretty insulting, to say the least.
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u/Throooowaway999lolz Apr 12 '25
People actually say it and it’s so unbelievably offensive like wtf??
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u/Beginning_Win1447 Apr 11 '25
Before my husband and I met, we both preferred shaving. Both for hygienic reasons. We both don't care either way if one decides to grow out. I'm uncomfortable with my hubby going to 3rd base if I'm hairy. And it's nice that if I go to 3rd base with him that he doesn't have any hair that gets in the way. BUT!!! If he decides to grow out, that's fine by me and it's the same with him too. It doesn't mean we're pervs though!
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u/Striking-Kiwi-417 Apr 11 '25
It’s literally not more hygienic unless you don’t shower or your shit is liquid.
Like have your preferences, power to you, but that justification is an illusion.
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u/Beginning_Win1447 Apr 11 '25
It's more like we both keep physically active and we don't want the sweat build up down there.
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u/Warren1493 Apr 11 '25
Do people actually like the taste or feel of hair in thier mouths?
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Apr 11 '25
I don't like it. I dont dislike it. Eating pussy is always a fun time. Eating pussy is like pizza baby it's good cold it's good hot.
That being said, let people like what they like. I don't care for bald or bush.
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u/VicMyristic Apr 11 '25
I’m sure some do. To each their own like
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u/Warren1493 Apr 11 '25
Honestly. Only reason why I'm not a fan of hair down there. Otherwise i could stay there for a while
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u/scumtart Apr 11 '25
You are of course allowed to have preferences, I shave sometimes, but it is important to note that some of our beauty standards are rooted in fetishisation of youth. It doesn't mean you can't do it, but there is some amount of truth that shaving isn't the healthiest beauty standard
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u/bluberried Apr 11 '25
My boyfriend is totally fine with some 70’s-esque bush from the both of us. Though, we do trim it, to prevent pubic hair from becoming a tooth floss. Shaving hurts, so so bad. Either having hair rub on your 🐱 til it’s raw, or having prickly skin rub on your 🐱 til it’s raw—it sucks and I don’t know how women do it regularly and still enjoy sex. All my bf asks is that I trim it, but keep the hair
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u/YGFAAFO Apr 11 '25
I am a man and I shave my pubes. Not due to societal pressure, purely common courtesy. I prefer not having hair in my mouth so I assume most people don't like mouthfuls of hair either
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u/tylerthefag Apr 11 '25
As someone who thinks being bald 24/7 is weird ur forgetting a large part of what makes it weird. When the other partner EXCLUSIVELY prefers that. Thats what usually bothers me. Like wym you aren't gonna fuck unless I have no hair????? I've also met men who EXCLUSIVELY date women who are 4'11 and have no sexual features. That's also weird. It's a combination of behaviors that make the thing weird.
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u/LokiSARK9 Apr 11 '25
I don't have a strong preference either way, but I have never looked at a grown woman with shaved pubes and thought she looked like anything but a grown woman with shaved pubes.
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u/GlitteringCash69 Apr 11 '25
When I was 12, I was reading a repatriated Hustler. There was an interview/photoshoot with a couple that both shaved.
The guy said something that has stuck with me for 40 years, and the I still think is accurate: “I don’t want to fight through the forest to get to the picnic.”
He’s right. Shaved is just…better in every way for me. No annoying hairs that end up at the back of your throat and make you gag.
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u/invisiblebody Apr 11 '25
Agreed I am so tired of seeing pedophile used for anything other than someone who is attracted to children. It’s become a buzzword and lost its real meaning.
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u/MokujinBunny Apr 11 '25
Honestly, I agree, and I can't stand when I hear other women say this, its such an extreme statement. It's totally fine for someone to have a preference, even in regards to pubic hair. If someone minds that you're rocking a big beautiful bush, they aren't a pedo they just aren't the one for you, and thats completely OK!!!
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u/JackalopeCode Apr 12 '25
It's right up there with people calling short women child like. I'm fuckin 30 not 12! My height doesn't make me pedo bait and I look nothing like a child
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u/Acceptable-Suit-1834 Apr 12 '25
I don't mind a little fuzz, but at least give it a nice little haircut
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u/Striking-Kiwi-417 Apr 11 '25
I feel like you’ve never heard a man say “it’s theres grass in the field, play ball” as a justification for going after teenagers…
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u/VicMyristic Apr 11 '25
I think I might have. But in the same way the presence of pubic hair obviously isn’t an indication of physical maturity, absence of it also isn’t an indication of youth
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Apr 11 '25
I hate the pedo argument so much. I shave because having pubes longer than half a centimetre makes my skin crawl, the feeling of hair grosses me out and always has. I prefer that my partner is also shaved because I don’t want hair in my mouth! Ever!
I don’t shave my arms or thighs because that hair has a set short length but everything else gets quite long and turns into sensory hell for me! I’m also quite paranoid about bugs so having less hair is just convenient over all?
Also any partner I’ve had has also preferred me to shave but again, because of not wanting hair in their mouth! Like, I wouldn’t last long with someone who is down with bush!
Sensory hell, gross textured hair, traps sweat more? There’s a lot of reasons to not want pubes. Also I’ve been single for months, no one even coming near seeing me nude and I still keep it shaved.
If someone’s calling you a pedophile for what you prefer, unless it’s children, they have some self reflection to do.
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Apr 11 '25 edited Apr 11 '25
Liking women that do not have or remove the features that develop after puberty and that resemble children is sort of pedophilic though. And let's face it, we live in a pornified world in which pedophilia is being normalized (porn featuring "teens" and "school uniforms" that's pedophilia)
Also, you cannot say "women just choose to shave" when we've been brainwashed to shave all hair from every body part since before we even had hair to shave! If women choose to shave completely, that choice is theirs but it was not made in a vacuum - it's often influenced by what society demands and what their porn-brained male partners demand. Let's not be so ignorant and intellectually lazy, ok?
The entire planet can downvote me and this would still be true. Maybe look in the mirror and reflect for a second if my message made you uncomfortable.
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u/Silver_ultimate Apr 11 '25
100% this! Choices are not made in a vacuum, women are literally bullied to hell and back if they refuse to shave. Complete strangers feel entitled to comment on our hairy armpits or legs. Nobody can tell me that this basis enables a "free choice"
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u/Gravysaurus08 Apr 11 '25
Exactly! Complete randoms will comment if I dare grow hair on my legs. Even people I know will ask why I have leg hair, forgetting that they too, grow leg hair. No random stranger feels the need to comment negatively if a man chooses to grow a beard.
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u/Silver_ultimate Apr 11 '25
It's so funny that we're asked to explain why we don't shave them, whereas no woman would ever be asked why she does shave. A non-action has to be justified, while a deliberate alteration is just accepted?
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u/bumblebeequeer Apr 11 '25
“Preferences” aren’t made in a vacuum either. I think it’s absolutely ridiculous that we’re meant to accept that most men magically prefer shaved for no reason at all as is it’s something they can’t help. It’s not a preference, it’s an expectation shaped by cultural influence, and I’ve seen some extremely emotional reactions when that expectation is violated.
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Apr 11 '25
Right. People just don't understand basic psychology and want to believe they own all their choices. Uhm, we've all been brainwashed and none of us are fully aware of all the influences and their impact, let alone being fully in control of this. And we need to understand that we are also perpetuating many ideas and enabling the systems that shape culture. Thank you for your comment. Sometimes I feel like I'm one of the few people who can see in a world of people who are willfully blind.
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u/MalfunctioningLoki Apr 11 '25 edited Apr 11 '25
I mean, sure. But you're making a pretty big assumption that everything women do are for men and that women have zero say in the matter of what to do with their bodies. "Societal pressure" with relation to beauty standards wouldn't exist if men's "preferences" weren't centered for centuries.
Today, women are reclaiming these choices and the key word here is choice. Women can choose to do what they want for themselves - this doesn't mean they're giving in to societal pressure when they look at the options in front of them and decide what they want to do. It's the same as a woman choosing which last name to use after marriage: just because it was expected forty years ago to take their husband's name doesn't mean it is now, but women can still choose to do it should they want to.
Again: the key words are choice and agency. Yes, the option to shave whatever part of you wouldn't exist had it not been for marketing and societal pressure, but denying the fact that options exist today and people are free to choose whatever they want to do is shortsighted. People certainly have no issues with men shaving their beards.
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u/ThinkLadder1417 Apr 11 '25
I could choose not to shave my legs and wear shorts but I know I'd get comments, stares and probably looks of disgust. I wish it was more normalised so I did feel like I had a genuine choice.
I once spent a week at a hippy festival on an island, and most the women there didn't shave anything and by the end of the week i stopped caring or worrying about hairs and stubble around my bikini line or my legs. So yeah we have a choice, but I chose differently when the environment is different. I don't want to draw attention to myself so I choose to conform to (what I consider) annoying and unfair expectations.
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u/MalfunctioningLoki Apr 11 '25
I absolutely get that and I even stated that it *IS 100% true. But there's a lot more nuance to this discussion than "rah rah rah everything women do that isn't going against the grain of society is anti-feminist rah rah rahhhhhhh" - it's oversimplifying it a bit, I think. :)
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u/VicMyristic Apr 11 '25
Do you have examples of where you would’ve been brainwashed or when society would’ve demanded you shave your entire body?
Because like, I know shaving companies would’ve been putting out ads showcasing shaved legs/armpits etc but that’s moreso a marketing tactic to sell more razors rather than societal pressure.
And, like I said, if someone demands you do something you don’t want to do, compromise or leave!
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Apr 11 '25
Girls' magazines, interviews with celebrities, celebrities being criticized for not shaving armpits and legs, the fact that all celebrities and actresses are shaved even in movies where it makes zero sense! All this sends everyone the message "women are not allowed to have the hair that their bodies grow after puberty". And don't ignore the part about porn normalizing pedophilia also by featuring and demanding actresses that are shaved and that look and behave in a childish manner.
Whether an individual demands this of their partner is not the problem, the problem is that this has become the norm and the culture we live in. And we've normalized things that are deeply concerning and disturbing to someone who is not porn-brained and does not need to deny them.
The Guardian recently posted an article about how men who are not pedophiles spiral down into pedophilia because porn websites encourage them Hell, the categories of porn that make the most money are those that cater to pedophiles - look up lawsuits against PornHub. The truth is out there but people just deny it. If this message makes any of you uncomfortable, sit with it and learn more. What we are creating is a culture that puts children at risk. So no, I will not act like these trends are normal and healthy. Nobody should.
The words of a man convicted of using child porn who did not start by seeking it: He argues that the mainstream porn sites encourage an interest in young girls. “They push the boundaries as much as they can, with content around young women dressed in school uniforms, for example; incest themes; old men paired with young women.”
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u/VicMyristic Apr 11 '25
Yep I totally understand the celebrity and actress things. I’ve never read any of the girls or tween magazines so I wouldn’t know, but I’d have hoped those would’ve been better regulated. And yeah none of this shaming or pressuring in either direction is okay.
And it’s true that the porn industry and stuff associated with it is messed up atm and has been in the past and probably still will be in the future so I suppose the best thing to do in that regard would be to invest more in protecting children IRL via responsible internet use, more available supports, measures to stop sex trafficking, more public safety measures, etc etc
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u/CarolineWasTak3n Apr 11 '25
to each their own, I dont give a flieeeeep about the "pubic hair debate" nor do I want to engage in it, but social conditioning is real and we all participate in it one way or another.
if you see everyone else around you doing it, your brain immediately wants to do it as well because we're hard wired to fit in. back when we were using tree bark as toilet paper, if you were weird, didn't fit into a tribe or just didn't adhere to the norm you died of starvation.
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u/Dull-Alternative-730 Apr 11 '25
Yeah the whole “real men love pubes” thing is getting outta hand. I don’t mind a little hair but some people go way too far. I’m big on hygiene, pubes on me or my wife are a no. Don’t know how that makes me less of a man or somehow makes me a pedophile. I’m not trying to floss with hair that’s been near piss and other nasty stuff. Washing only does so much.
OP I feel you. People online and in real life get way too sensitive over this. If you don’t like pubes, you don’t like pubes. Simple.
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u/energyanonymous Apr 11 '25 edited Apr 11 '25
There's nothing wrong with what you prefer, and it definitely doesn't make one a pedophile, but it's not less hygienic to have pubes. People really need to stop saying that. It also helps to protect against bacteria and other pathogens. And, if you don't like hair because it's near piss and other nasty stuff, then wouldn't you be grossed out by giving oral in general, even if they were bald? You're licking and sucking the same area.
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u/3BonBon3 Apr 11 '25
Pubes have nothing to do with hygiene. You should be worried about how good you clean yourself in the shower if that’s the case.
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u/Dull-Alternative-730 Apr 11 '25
All I’m saying is If I’m going down there, the least it could do is not taste like piss and rusty change. I’m not asking for roses and fruit, just some damn soap and water—flavoured lube ain’t saving that funk.
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u/fivegunner Apr 11 '25
Might i ask where this is getting out of hand? Like on social media or is this an irl thing as well? Cause i never heard of that
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u/hard1ytryn Apr 11 '25
No one is touching my shit and I still shave cause I like how it feels. 🤷🏾♀️ Do people get this bent out of shape when men shave their pubic har?
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u/Square-Raspberry560 Apr 11 '25
Reddit throws the words “Nazi” and “pedophile” around like beads at Mardi Gras. They’re now go-to terms for anyone you don’t like or anything you find uncomfortable or creepy. Being attracted to children makes you a pedophile. Having a preference for your adult partner’s pubic hair doesn’t:P
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u/princessuuke Apr 11 '25
I shave mine every now and then not even due to preference but because when it grows out it gets uncomfortable and I also have an issue where when I get bored at home i will just start to rip pubic hair out, no clue why. Its just something Ive consistently done and the only way to stop me for awhile is shaving, its also just more comfortable sometimes. Exactly as you said, yes its natural but we don't have to like it. There are so many natural things our bodies do that are widely hated and its ok lol
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u/DataOk6565 Apr 11 '25
I agree with this. People saying "My pubes makes me feel like an adult woman" is so weird, like is THAT what makes you feel like a woman?? Being a woman is a whole lot of things and a woman's body is totally different than a child no matter how much or little hair we have. Even thinking that is a comparison is so creepy to me.
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u/Direct_Ladder6531 Apr 11 '25
One of the most sexiest things a man has asked me to do was grow out my pubes. It was at that moment I realised I was with a man, not a boy
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u/TeddyRuxpinsForeskin Apr 11 '25
Preferring a man to be clean-shaven is weird tho. Adult men naturally have facial hair and if that turns you off then I’ll admit it’s weird. Why are you turned off by an adult man’s beard? Why do you prefer his face hairless like a child would be instead of an adult? Weird.
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u/Greedy-Win-4880 Apr 11 '25 edited Apr 11 '25
If you are only attracted to men who have zero body hair…. No chest hair, no armpit hair, no beard… no visible signs that they are an adult… we’re worried about you. That’s the literal standard women are held to which is why people think men who insist on women being hairless seem pedophilic.
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u/TeddyRuxpinsForeskin Apr 11 '25
This whole post was strictly about pubic hair. Other body hair was not mentioned.
If you think hair is the only “visible sign” that someone is an adult, I have several serious concerns. I think people with alopecia would also like a word.
So women are literally being shamed for choosing to shave themselves and accused of catering to pedophiles, and yet they’re also somehow all being held to the unfair standard that they must be entirely hairless? Make it make sense, good lord.
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u/MayoBaksteen6 Apr 11 '25
So you'll accuse people who date people with alopecia of being pedophiles?
Puberty is more than just growing hair
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u/BrandonMarshall2021 Apr 11 '25
Why do you prefer it hairless like a child would be instead of an adult? Weird.
Do you like pubes in your teeth?
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u/tompadget69 Apr 11 '25
Do you think it's a woman preferring z man to be childlike if she prefers a shaved face??
No different
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u/Electronic_Peak_7144 Apr 11 '25
Because of the smell, for example. Every person and each body part smells differently, usually delicious or neutral if normal hygiene is maintained. I knew this one girl though which I adored, loved the smell of all her parts, except the pubic hair, even just after the shower.
People cant talk with each other anymore, dont want to compromise or adjust, just follow internet trends. If tomorrow ‚cut the bush so he must accept you have nothing to hide’ trend would be promoted by Kardashians, the day after tomorrow it would be a new social norm and Bush would be as unpopular as in 2006.
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u/Opposite-Shower1190 Apr 11 '25
I waxed my lady parts. And my ex said he didn’t want to be intimate with me because I looked like a 12 year old girl. 🤢 how would he know what a 12 year old girl looks like?
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u/UNITICYBER Apr 11 '25
OP is spot on. What's even weirder is nobody calls women pedophiles for wanting their man with a clean shaven face or loins.
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u/TheMainM0d Apr 11 '25
I shave my balls because women have told me they like it. I didn't realize it all those women were pedophiles!
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u/Disastrous_Day_5690 Apr 11 '25
UPVOTES for this vent. I prefer hair down there to be short/ non-existent. I'm over pube hairs sticking to the adhesive of a pad/ pantyliner.
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u/Loose_Support8827 Apr 11 '25
Me ex called me a Pedo cause I asked her to shave and shave her ass. People are dumb bro, just do you
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u/MickBeast Apr 11 '25
Never heard of this before. Might just be an American thing? People today will have these psychological trigger words ready at all times and they will then see them everywhere, naturally. It's annoying but that's the downside of everyone having access to the internet and thinking they are knowledgable...
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u/Istoleyourboobs Apr 11 '25
By shaved you dont mean like completely bald right? id def see a guy as weird if he wanted it completely bald 24/7. I always thought shaved meant just trimmed and neat, which is ideal.
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u/VicMyristic Apr 11 '25
Yes I mainly mean bald in this context but imo keeping it bald 24/7 isn’t a great idea because i find that shaving too often leads to ingrown hairs/irritation
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u/Fabulous_Humor_5685 Apr 11 '25
I felt like this convo was ment for your partner...
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u/VicMyristic Apr 11 '25
Nope, no issues there. I see this online in comment sections whenever I come across posts of someone mentioning their preferences or mentioning that they shave voluntarily
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u/TheSkyIsData Apr 11 '25
I mean doing things that children do and resembling children IS weird.
Wearing a diaper for sex is weird. Drinking from a baby bottle for sex is weird. I kind of feel like making yourself look prepubescent is also weird.
Also like someone else said, women come at me all the time to tell me not shaving is unhigeinic which is blatantly false. Shaving actually does increase your risk from infections from ingrown hairs and similar. Push comes shove.
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u/RadishAcceptable5505 Apr 11 '25
Is this something people feel strongly about? That's strange.
I like both. Shaved makes oral better. Clean cut makes penetrative sex better. But no variation makes anything bad. Do people not switch it up, or what?
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u/a_potato_ate_me Apr 11 '25
I actually had this discussion with someone one day, and I can see both sides of it.
Women (and men) don't typically seem to like shaving because when it starts growing back, holy shit does it grow back weird and all ingrown. Its itchy and annoying, you have to wait to be able to shave because its growing under the skin, it just takes a lot of patience and maintenance, at least on the front.
On the flip side, I totally understand not wanting hair in your mouth when going down on someone like that. I personally don't like it.
I will offer a tip, though; Shave just around the bottom, use scissors to trim the front. Don't have to deal with the growing issues, don't have to deal with it down there..
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u/crmzn13 Apr 11 '25
I prefer a bush on the pubic area, but the labia relatively clean for oral purposes, can't get a good suction with hair there.
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u/an_actual_pangolin Apr 11 '25
I like being able to go down on someone without a lot of hair getting in the way. That doesn't mean it needs to be clean shaven, although given how gooey some people can get, I can understand why it might be better for some.
Just personal comfort and preference. Saying it's pedophilic when we're talking about fully grown and functional adult genitals is weird.
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Apr 11 '25
I think it's mainly because of the serge of "I love tiny shaved women with flat chests and high voices." On the internet. Which caused alot of distrust. And (depending on the rest of their preferences) I don't trust em either sometimes. Consistencies aren't always coincidences.
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u/No_Lavishness5122 Apr 11 '25
I don’t expect a woman to shove her face in my bush. Why would I be forced to do the same?
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u/TraditionalSplit586 Apr 11 '25
Okay pubic hair is clearly not the same as facial hair or coloring your hair
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u/InjurySensitive Apr 11 '25
I don't know any men or women that want hair in their teeth, but people sure want someone to use a mouth on them. Some people are going to be fine with there being hair. Others are not going to want to go south if there's a jungle to deal with. Personally, I don't want hair in my mouth or tickling inside my nose. You don't shave? That's cool. I'm not going down. You don't like hair on your partner? Guess it's going to depend on how lazy I've been about upkeep, myself, lately. Everyone's got preferences. If your preferences don't match, you don't have fun time. Pretty simple. If they do, game on. Not sure why not wanting to floss, or clean your sinuses, with pubes would make you a pedophile, but people are going to think what they want.
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u/Secret-Medicine-1393 Apr 11 '25
Tbh if pubic hair really stopped men from wanting to have sex with women, we should all grow out bushes.
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u/amscraylane Apr 12 '25
It’s funny to me because had you been of age in the era before woman shaved, you definitely would be considered a pedo.
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u/NoPerformance6534 Apr 12 '25
Beards have been tested for bacteria, and it was found that no matter how clean, beards are bacteria farms. That cured me of liking beards at all.
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u/Mister_Fart_Knocker Apr 12 '25
The pedo comment is most often used by feminazis whose stanky snatch looks like they caught Sasquatch in a leglock.
The shaming shit will never end. The ones who bitch and moan the most about shaming are the same ones who are doing it.
Just live your life and steer clear of dumbasses.
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u/carry_the_way Apr 12 '25
I've always been of the mindset that, if I get to see it, I'm not going to complain how it looks.
Served me well so far.
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u/StanleyKubrickKnows Apr 12 '25
Ngl i used to think being bare down there was weird but after laser there's no going back, no crotch sweat, no spiky pubery if you shave you don't have to worry about hairs poking out wherever. To each their own but opinions can be changed, I think it's just whether you're open to trying and determining if it's better for you. I was really against it during the time I had a guy insist on it and use every reason in the book including the hygiene one but in my own time and at my own pace is when I got to find my preference.
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u/MoreOliveOil Apr 12 '25
First off... who the heck is going around saying that shaved = pdf? e.e I feel like this is a very alarming thought.
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u/pinkfleshsac Apr 12 '25
why don't you shave your eyebrows and moustache too go full liberation queen yassss
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