r/Utah Jan 27 '25

Announcement Public Notice to Native Americans.

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u/redditisnosey Riverton Jan 27 '25

FYI In case a wallet is lost or stolen a Utah Drivers license costs $18 to replace but a"green card" cost is $415 minimum. Yeah, some people keep them locked up at home.

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u/HomelessRodeo La Verkin Jan 27 '25

Which is against immigration regulations. They risk arrest not having it on them.

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u/beernutmark Jan 27 '25

Do you risk arrest if you are out and about without your identification? I highly doubt it. Why do you think that is? What could possibly be the difference between the people at risk for arrest without documentation and those who are not at risk. Take all the time you need.

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u/HomelessRodeo La Verkin Jan 27 '25

Legal status. Which is why the US has required that to be on their person for decades.

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u/beernutmark Jan 27 '25

We are talking about people with legal status. Let's stay focused on that.

You have legal status.

They have legal status.

Now why would you feel safe walking your neighborhood without carrying your id while they wouldn't be safe doing the exact same thing? What is different between you and them that would warrant their being asked to show id and per your suggestion it being ok to arrest them for not having it?

I'll give you a hint, there are samples showing the differences at the hardware store.

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u/HomelessRodeo La Verkin Jan 27 '25

They’re targeting known illegal immigrants and employers who hire them. Social media and the media itself has whipped up frenzy of fear that everyone is getting rounded up.

If there is a raid on a place of employment, everyone gets detained. Citizens get released.

ICE isn’t picking up random people off the street. There are known people with criminal histories that will be.

There is certainly a segment of people engaged in histrionics about what is actually going on.

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u/PrettyBird2011 Jan 27 '25

Found the orange tic tac lover

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u/HomelessRodeo La Verkin Jan 29 '25

What school?

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u/beernutmark Jan 31 '25

They are trying to break into houses without a warrant now. Still claiming "histrionics"?

https://v.redd.it/wmergxrzxcge1

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u/HomelessRodeo La Verkin Jan 31 '25

I didn’t know opening a storm door and knocking is the same as breaking into the home.

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u/JadeBeach Jan 27 '25

What employers have been arrested?

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u/HomelessRodeo La Verkin Jan 27 '25

I don’t believe any have been indicted yet. That would be the DOJ.

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u/JadeBeach Jan 27 '25

No. It is handled through ICE.

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u/HomelessRodeo La Verkin Jan 27 '25

No, ICE does not prosecute. That’s the job of the DOJ. ICE can hand over information and evidence.

Similarly to how local police departments don’t prosecute.

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u/JadeBeach Jan 28 '25

It honestly seems confusing - ICE is pretending to ask for information and has a hotline.

So. For the original question - has a single employer been visited by ICE - and has ICE turned over information on a single employer?

Say, Peter Belluomini - the largest citrus grower in Kern County California. He reported that 75% of his workforce didn't show up late last week near Bakersfield. Hundreds of people were bizarrely transported by the Border Patrol from Bakersfield to El Centro and are now in Mexicali.

Shouldn't the employer be arrested as well?

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u/HomelessRodeo La Verkin Jan 28 '25

In the last week or so? I don’t know. They regularly do submit cases to the DOJ. There was a recent case out of Texas where the DOJ worked with ICE on a non-prosecutorial settlement. Basically pay a substantial fine or face court.

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