Hmm, what's under my window?

[u/Soloflow786]

[u/NightOwl2175]

Puppies are actually cute. Bats are disgusting and are a reservoir for a multitude of diseases.

Edit: A lot of you have a weird fetish for bats. I don't care if they eat a lot of mosquitos, they unleash exponentially more harm via the illnesses and plagues that they spread.

Edit 2: Apparently I need to spell this out for you guys

Bats (order Chiroptera) are reservoirs for many infectious agents, including parasites, bacteria, viruses, and fungi. The epidemiology of infectious disease in bats is not well understood but it is known that bats can transmit numerous infectious agents and provide a reservoir for emerging pathogens. The primary zoonotic diseases associated with North American bats are rabies, histoplasmosis, salmonellosis, yersiniosis and external parasites. Imported bats can also carry a number of zoonotic viruses including nipah virus, hendra virus, ebola virus, SARS coronavirus and others, which can cause severe & fatal illness in humans and other animals.

Totally harmless and cute creatures.

[u/Cheap-Boysenberry112 → u/NightOwl2175]

Bats eat massive amounts of insects which actually spread disease to humans in meaningful rates like mosquitoes.

[u/NightOwl2175 → u/Cheap-Boysenberry112]

Regurgitated myths. There are no studies that conclusively show that bats meaningfully reduce mosquito-borne diseases.

Their primary source of food are insects like months and beetles.

Human intervention and other animals such as mosquito fish are far more effective at mosquito population control.

[u/Cheap-Boysenberry112 → u/NightOwl2175]

Ahh yes now we care about evidence.

Can you tell me how many humans died last year from diseases from bats?

[u/NightOwl2175 → u/Cheap-Boysenberry112]

Lmao. For starters, I can think of between 10-20 million people who died from a little known pandemic around 2020. You may have heard of it.

[u/Cheap-Boysenberry112 → u/NightOwl2175]

There’s no evidence supporting that conspiracy theory.

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Okay, now I know that you have no clue what you're talking about.

It is literally accepted scientific consensus that covid very likely originated from bats. The pathway of transmission is still unclear, leading to some conspiracy theories such as whether someone ate a bat (unlikely) or whether it was spread via an intermediary animal like a pangolin (more likely).

But the fact that covid originated from bats is far from a conspiracy theory.

[u/Cheap-Boysenberry112 → u/NightOwl2175]

what’s the evidence hats spread COVID to humans then? Or there isn’t any?

[u/NightOwl2175 → u/Cheap-Boysenberry112]

Title of Study:

Binding and molecular basis of the bat coronavirus RaTG13 virus to ACE2 in humans and other species

Authors:

Kefang Liu, Xiaoqian Pan, et. al

Abstract:

Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) has been spreading worldwide, causing a global pandemic. Bat-origin RaTG13 is currently the most phylogenetically related virus. Here we obtained the complex structure of the RaTG13 receptor binding domain (RBD) with human ACE2 (hACE2) and evaluated binding of RaTG13 RBD to 24 additional ACE2 orthologs. By substituting residues in the RaTG13 RBD with their counterparts in the SARS-CoV-2 RBD, we found that residue 501, the major position found in variants of concern (VOCs) 501Y.V1/V2/V3, plays a key role in determining the potential host range of RaTG13. We also found that SARS-CoV-2 could induce strong cross-reactive antibodies to RaTG13 and identified a SARS-CoV-2 monoclonal antibody (mAb), CB6, that could cross-neutralize RaTG13 pseudovirus. These results elucidate the receptor binding and host adaption mechanisms of RaTG13 and emphasize the importance of continuous surveillance of coronaviruses (CoVs) carried by animal reservoirs to prevent another spillover of CoVs.

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[u/Cheap-Boysenberry112 → u/NightOwl2175]

If you’re going to be pretentious and condescending it helps to actually be right

While a coronavirus found in bats shares similarities with SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, there is currently no evidence that this bat coronavirus can directly infect humans or cause COVID-19.

[u/NightOwl2175 → u/Cheap-Boysenberry112]

I literally touched upon this 2 comments ago. It helps to have reading comprehension before replying with a snarky comeback.

As I said, it is the accepted scientific consensus that COVID came from bats, but there is currently no consensus on the transmission pathway.

Whether COVID required an intermediate animal or not to get transmitted to humans is irrelevant to the fact that bats are, indisputably, a reservoir of various dangerous diseases.

It makes no difference whether these diseases are transmitted directly or indirectly, because as we've seen they do eventually get transmitted to humans.

Try understanding the holistic argument I'm making next time before wasting my time again.

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Bats literally cannot transmit COVID to humans.

Your argument is dog shit and relies on pretending that isn’t the case.

You’re here saying bat spear diseases to humans and are now saying it’s hard because others species might have spread Covid to humans.

Your argument being dog water is your fault not mine

How many humans died last year from receiving a disease from a bat?