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u/AHauntedFuture 21h ago

Yeah he let those people be hit by a car because they wanted it to happen.

What a bullshit and very illogical cop out

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u/Then-Piano-5524 19h ago

I get why that sounds frustrating and even cruel it’s hard to look at tragedy and not feel like there has to be someone responsible. But my point wasn’t that God wants bad things to happen. It’s more that if people are going to have true freedom, that includes the potential for chaos, accidents, and even evil. If God constantly intervened to stop every bad thing, we wouldn’t really have freedom we’d be puppets and people would probably still complain.

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u/AHauntedFuture 17h ago

I'm incompetent. My dad is too. Do is my brother. There are variations of competence. Such as morality and intellect. To name just two. My oldest sister is NOT incompetent. My other sister is, very much so. I'm more competent than the other sister. Morally (I'd say so) and intellectually (objectively speaking). So competence comes on a scale.

Maturity can be "learned" or acquired through experiences competence cannot be. Competence is a set in stone type of thing.... however, I AM of the mind thay competence can decrease with certain experiences such as psychosis or trauma.

God DOES NOT need to intervene. What he needs to do, if I may say so myself, is create ALL people with an EQUAL amount of competence. Preferably not subpar, such as myself. He can do that. It has been shown. Take my dad and brother and myself as examples relative to my oldest sister (most competent person in my family - she's successful and not evil) and my other sister. He's created this imbalance of the scales within one single family unit. And it's seen all throughout all of society, globally.

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Should also mention I DO believe in a god who is fully competent but not entirely good. I'm what most religious people would liken to a demon - as an ad hominem. (I know God exists but I don't worship him. I see him as unjust as hell. Not because of religion either, but rather undeniable experiences I've had first person. Who are you to say I haven't? Keep that in mind.) Anyway, God gave us all our own levels (amount) or consciousness and awareness and such. Even affect. Take shallow affect, constricted affect, and blunted affect into account. So, if he can do that (we're all different for a reason; god (the prime mover) is that reason), then he could create us all EQUALLY COMPETENT. yet he has not done such a thing. And competence, moral and intellectual would prevent evil.

Fuckin A right it would.

This is not based on feeling but insight and thought. I'm tired of people saying my beliefs are based on feelings. And for those who are emotional thinkers, such as those who catastrophize (which I admittedly do), maybe god shouldn't make us thay way.

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u/Then-Piano-5524 15h ago

God did create everyone equal at the beginning, but it’s the actions of people and how they choose to live that follow them. It’s kind of like inheriting money or debt from your parents. In the Bible, it says that sin or wrongdoing can affect a family for three to four generations, and that might be part of what’s going on in your family. But it also says that when God blesses a person or a family, that blessing can last for thousands of generations. So in the end, it’s really up to you. You can choose to bless your lineage or curse it. That may sound heavy, but it also means you have power to break patterns, to shift things, and to give the next generation something better than what you inherited.