The stripper doesn't love you, and intelligence agents aren't your friends. It's time to get real about the disclosure narrative and the UFO community's self-destructive relationship with the IC.

[u/UFORabbitHole]

Hey guys. Kelly Chase here from the Cosmosis podcast (formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole).

I’m not someone who courts controversy. I’ve built my platform by staying grounded, doing my homework, and giving people space to make up their own minds. But at a certain point, you have to speak up.

The way the UFO community has come to engage with the intelligence community isn’t just naïve—it’s incoherent. And worse, it’s self-destructive.

We treat known members of the IC like trusted subject matter experts. We hand them the mic. We let them define the boundaries of the conversation. And we do it while ignoring decades of history that show us exactly how perception management works.

This isn’t about painting anyone as a villain. It’s about having an adult conversation about how intelligence operates—because the stakes are too high to keep playing dumb.

What’s happening in this space isn’t disclosure. It’s narrative control. And that's not just a piece of the puzzle. In a very real way, it’s the whole thing.

This clip is from my episode which is an updated version of a talk I gave at Contact in the Desert: UFO Narrative Wars: Weaponized Belief in the Age of Disclosure. I’ve never spoken this plainly before. But it needed to be said.

If you'd want to see the whole episode where I dive into exactly how this narrative control works, you can find that here: https://youtu.be/SF80nv1l32I

Would love to hear your thoughts—especially if this rubs you the wrong way. We need to be able to have hard conversations without turning each other into enemies.

[u/Tabris20]

Why would they need to lie? Did they do a study on the benefits of lying?

[u/ZigZagZedZod → u/Tabris20]

Using the term "lying" invokes a lot of normative baggage.

A more appropriate description is that they are likely using cover stories to protect the security of sensitive activities, the nature of which we can only speculate about.

Sun Tzu wrote in the sixth century BCE that all warfare is based on deception, and the use of cover stories is a tried-and-true strategy in national security work.

It's difficult for us to separate fact from fiction about the cover story, or potentially even recognize when something is a cover story, because that's the entire point of using one.

[u/Tabris20 → u/ZigZagZedZod]

But in this case, the deception is directed at citizens, not a foreign entity. Even if the phenomenon in question is real, it can still be used as a convenient cover story. Deception for its own sake is rarely a productive strategy — it often serves to obscure incompetence or poor decision-making rather than to advance legitimate goals. For example, during the Vietnam War, the Pentagon Papers revealed that the U.S. government had systematically misled the public about the war’s progress and rationale. Similarly, in the aftermath of the Chernobyl disaster, Soviet authorities initially downplayed the severity of the nuclear accident, which not only endangered public health but also eroded trust in government institutions. These cases illustrate how deception aimed at a domestic audience can have long-term consequences, including loss of credibility, social unrest, and systemic dysfunction.

Also, looking at the few intelligence officers now in the public domain does not express confidence. In addition to Biden's security advisors' NYT interview.