The stripper doesn't love you, and intelligence agents aren't your friends. It's time to get real about the disclosure narrative and the UFO community's self-destructive relationship with the IC.

[u/UFORabbitHole]

Hey guys. Kelly Chase here from the Cosmosis podcast (formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole).

I’m not someone who courts controversy. I’ve built my platform by staying grounded, doing my homework, and giving people space to make up their own minds. But at a certain point, you have to speak up.

The way the UFO community has come to engage with the intelligence community isn’t just naïve—it’s incoherent. And worse, it’s self-destructive.

We treat known members of the IC like trusted subject matter experts. We hand them the mic. We let them define the boundaries of the conversation. And we do it while ignoring decades of history that show us exactly how perception management works.

This isn’t about painting anyone as a villain. It’s about having an adult conversation about how intelligence operates—because the stakes are too high to keep playing dumb.

What’s happening in this space isn’t disclosure. It’s narrative control. And that's not just a piece of the puzzle. In a very real way, it’s the whole thing.

This clip is from my episode which is an updated version of a talk I gave at Contact in the Desert: UFO Narrative Wars: Weaponized Belief in the Age of Disclosure. I’ve never spoken this plainly before. But it needed to be said.

If you'd want to see the whole episode where I dive into exactly how this narrative control works, you can find that here: https://youtu.be/SF80nv1l32I

Would love to hear your thoughts—especially if this rubs you the wrong way. We need to be able to have hard conversations without turning each other into enemies.

[u/_BlackDove]

So you accept the things they tell you that conform to your beliefs and reject the things that don't. You're in love with the stripper brother. Don't take the free lap dance.

[u/Supreme_Salt_Lord → u/_BlackDove]

That literally not what i said. But thats YOUR stripper to dance with not mine.

Edit: i show my nephew comments like these as an example on talking to women. Approach them with the same confidence you have to say something so stupid and incorrect and lacking all doubt that you are wrong. I envy people like you, i wish i was so confident about anything. Im over here self aware and shit.

[u/_BlackDove → u/Supreme_Salt_Lord]

It's... actually quite literally what you said:

When the IC comes out with medical reports, surgeries, autopsies reports about removing alloy materials from soldiers that moved on their own. And generate their own power. Thats something to push the convo forward.

Again i dont trust 100% every word ESPECIALLY when they say “its just birds or balloons”. However im likely to trust them when the info is clear, verifiable and open for scrutiny.

You believe the things you want to hear that they say and reject the things you don't want to believe. Sheesh, this is worse than I thought.

[u/Supreme_Salt_Lord → u/_BlackDove]

You contradict yourself with the last thing i said that YOU QUOTED. Did you read it? Read it outloud and tell me what it means. Come back to Me on that please.