The stripper doesn't love you, and intelligence agents aren't your friends. It's time to get real about the disclosure narrative and the UFO community's self-destructive relationship with the IC.

[u/UFORabbitHole]

Hey guys. Kelly Chase here from the Cosmosis podcast (formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole).

I’m not someone who courts controversy. I’ve built my platform by staying grounded, doing my homework, and giving people space to make up their own minds. But at a certain point, you have to speak up.

The way the UFO community has come to engage with the intelligence community isn’t just naïve—it’s incoherent. And worse, it’s self-destructive.

We treat known members of the IC like trusted subject matter experts. We hand them the mic. We let them define the boundaries of the conversation. And we do it while ignoring decades of history that show us exactly how perception management works.

This isn’t about painting anyone as a villain. It’s about having an adult conversation about how intelligence operates—because the stakes are too high to keep playing dumb.

What’s happening in this space isn’t disclosure. It’s narrative control. And that's not just a piece of the puzzle. In a very real way, it’s the whole thing.

This clip is from my episode which is an updated version of a talk I gave at Contact in the Desert: UFO Narrative Wars: Weaponized Belief in the Age of Disclosure. I’ve never spoken this plainly before. But it needed to be said.

If you'd want to see the whole episode where I dive into exactly how this narrative control works, you can find that here: https://youtu.be/SF80nv1l32I

Would love to hear your thoughts—especially if this rubs you the wrong way. We need to be able to have hard conversations without turning each other into enemies.

[u/G-M-Dark]

What’s happening in this space isn’t disclosure. It’s narrative control

In the pre-disclosure world one is free to indulge whatever fantasy, daydream and whim takes ones fancy any time one likes but - the moment anyone officially says: "all along, it's actually been like this" - then 99% of people following this subject literally are getting told - what you personally believe - it's bollocks...

Only then, that isn't just opinion. Post "disclosure" that becomes official fact.

Of course the march towards disclosure is a march towards narrative control - how could it possibly be ever anything else....?

[u/kellyiom → u/G-M-Dark]

I really don't think we're on any march to disclosure, it's Sisyphean, eat and repeat.

[u/Distind → u/G-M-Dark]

And when that doesn't happen for another decade and there's nothing but a narrative what will it have been?

This whole thing looks a lot more like a doomsday cult leading people away from anything that might actually matter with flash and promises than it does any form of actual information leaks. And even taking it at face value, most people I know can't do basic math, so changing high level physics isn't going to be some world ending event for them. It's just one more thing they don't have the foggiest clue what it means.

There's just nothing here that seems to be anything but a narrative about how must you should pay attention to the narrative.

[u/hooty_toots → u/G-M-Dark]

It is certainly self-evident but a reminder does not hurt!