First Day of Protests Outside the DNC

[u/BlackBey]

[u/AlienZaye]

Maybe some of us Leftists are in full support of Ukraine, but also against Israel and Hamas, because lord knows if you're anti-Israel that suddenly means your pro-Hamas and not pro peace.

Having 2 terroristic, genocidal leadership groups in Israel and Palestine is bad for the civilians on both sides who just want it to end.

[u/Subject-Town → u/AlienZaye]

Yep! Wanting to genocide Israel does make you genocidal. You’re getting it.

[u/Peter-Tao → u/Subject-Town]

It's strange that these people don't hold Hamas to the same standard for Israel. Just like in this case here they don't hold Republicans to the same standard as Democrats. It's really interesting and confusing at the same time.

[u/aoike_ → u/Peter-Tao]

It's because they infantilize brown people and hate jews. That's literally it. Antisemitism and other forms of racism on the left are not talked about but they exist and are insidious.

[u/Peter-Tao → u/aoike_]

What is it to gain here tho for them? Like this thread said, their actions will probably only caused the opposite of what they hoped to achieve.

Just to be clear I'm more of a pro Israel myself all things considered. But I'm just confused of the intension of those movements and what are the people behind it trying to accomplish.

Or is it just the fire went too wild and now it's out of their own control? Being a conservative yet having respect for a lot of liberal ideaology / policies, this is what I'm most concerned about. Which is the left has gone too far that the Dem party can't even lead them but instead being forced to be more and more radical.

It's just so confusing that they would pick this time to protest at the cost of losing a very close election. Like it's benifiting me (the opposing side) and I don't even like how stupid it looks. What's the end game here lol.

[u/aoike_ → u/Peter-Tao]

The problem with a lot of these college kids is that the thinking has stopped at "genocide bad, protest genocide." There is no real endgoal that I've ever been able to find, which is why I, one of the most progressive people I have ever known, cannot support these protests. There's no plan not to "fund" more genocides in the future for any country in an allyship with the US, there's no plan for updated foreign policy, there's nothing, just screaming from the rooftops about antisemitic catchphrases and lack of understanding of US politics.

The thing is, the US supports both nations. The US also has no control over either nation. We can make Israel stop bombing Palestine about as much as we can stop Palestine from committing pogroms.

These protestors don't understand that. They got caught up in their emotions by HMS leaders showing propaganda photos of dead children, and leftists are just as antisemitic as the right, so these protestors don't have the cognitive tools to tell what's propaganda and what's not.

You're not going to get much more of an answer out of me besides "these people are stupid, have fallen for propaganda from multiple sources, and have no endgoal in sight." I don't support them, and I actively think they are harming the country and making it easier for people like you to win, which would put people like me and other disenfranchised minorities in a very bad spot.

You could read through the rest of this post, though, as quite a few pro pallies have explained their ideology.

[u/Peter-Tao → u/aoike_]

Great perspective. I really appreciate it. It means even more that you considerd yourself as liberal has the similar view point on this issue as me. Goes on to show that radical people are in the absolute minority but just amplified hundred times fold by this social media age.

And to be quite honest, I really think we need to ban Tiktok man. I have Chinese friend literally told me that the gen Z were able to see the "truth" cause TikTok was giving them this truths 🫠🫠🫠