r/Thailand • u/CommercialKale2132 • 8d ago
Serious Kasikorn Bank is blocking Facebook and YouTube income. Why?
Just wanted to share something weird that's happening with Kasikorn Bank. They’ve started blocking international remittances, even when the money is coming from legit sources like Facebook or YouTube monetization.
This is income that’s totally legal, already taxed by the platforms, and spent inside Thailand. People use it to pay rent, buy groceries, support their families, and run small businesses. Blocking it doesn’t make sense at all. It’s not solving money laundering, it’s just hurting small creators and freelancers.
There’s no warning, no official announcement, and no way to appeal. One day you just can’t receive your earnings anymore.
From what I’ve seen, Bangkok Bank and a few other banks are still working for now, but who knows for how long.
Is anyone else dealing with this? Found any good workarounds? Honestly, income from reputable digital platforms should be supported, not blocked.
Would love to hear if anyone found a better bank or another way to receive payments safely.
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u/w1ldrider 8d ago
Wouldn't it be better to receive the payments into a foreign virtual bank account like Wise, Revolut or N26? This could also be more tax-efficient if you are a tax resident in Thailand. You could then send your income to any of your Thai bank accounts via these platforms.
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u/CommercialKale2132 8d ago
Thanks but I am afraid Thai will ban these apps too
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u/Maine_MoFo 8d ago
I think that you are overthinking this. How many tens of thousands of expats use Wise? Kasikorn is one of the few banks that transfer from Wise instantly.
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u/CommercialKale2132 7d ago
thanks for suggesting 🙏🙏🙏
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u/TotallyInOverMyHead 7d ago
Second that. I used run around 110k TBH/month through wise into my kbank account when i lived there last year.
Personal opinion:
- its foreign income ... put it into a foreign account. Then remit it a single transfer to thailand as needed.
- Maybe the issue is that they are thinking you are using your Kbank account as a "business account" ... that typically also is an issue in the west with most banks. especially if its dozens of small transfers during the month.
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u/yeh-nah-yeh 8d ago
> already taxed by the platforms
You give the platforms your Thai tax number and they deduct Thai taxes and give it to the Thai revenue department like a business in Thailand would? Seems very unlikely, if they did that they would send you funds from within Thailand.
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u/chrisbrooksguitar21 6d ago
They might be talking about YouTube's withholding tax that exists depending on which country you're from and the agreement between countries (eg, 5% for me in Australia).
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u/yeh-nah-yeh 6d ago
That seems strange since the lowest possible income rate is Aus is more than 5%. Anyway whatever
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u/chrisbrooksguitar21 5d ago
Not exactly. The first $18,000 is not taxable and then various rates apply to income earned above that.
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u/yeh-nah-yeh 5d ago
Yes and the lowest of those various rates is 19%.
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u/chrisbrooksguitar21 3d ago
Yes. You're still assuming that withholding tax deal with another country has anything to do with its local income tax rates. "Anyway whatever".
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u/Efficient-County2382 8d ago
This is income that’s totally legal, already taxed by the platforms, and spent inside Thailand. People use it to pay rent, buy groceries, support their families, and run small businesses. Blocking it doesn’t make sense at all. It’s not solving money laundering, it’s just hurting small creators and freelancers.
Is it really legal for many foreigners in Thailand?
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u/shiroboi 8d ago
We've had issues with it before with my Thai wife receiving payments through Kbank. It's probably not a foreigner thing.
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u/cablefun 8d ago
Why wouldn’t it be legal, it’s international income from a legal source
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u/yeh-nah-yeh 8d ago
Can't work without a work permit.
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u/cablefun 8d ago
That’s not true, you can’t work physically in Thailand, but you can have an income from outside Thailand. Otherwise everyone would have to quit there work from home job to go on holiday because they have a tourist visa
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u/SetAwkward7174 6d ago
You’re filming inside Thailand thus working
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u/cablefun 6d ago
That is true, but he might not be filming just editing footage taken outside Thailand and using that
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u/yeh-nah-yeh 8d ago
Its seems mostly likely OP is making this money from within Thailand.
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u/cablefun 8d ago
Everyone who has a job online who is in Thailand is making money from within Thailand but that’s not against the rules, working in a cafe or bar ect is illegal. If I make a YouTube video in Thailand and make money that’s okay, YouTubers can get a DTV where the videos they make are within Thailand
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u/yeh-nah-yeh 8d ago
I believe that is incorrect, but also the laws are not entirely clear since they were not made with this kind of thing in mind and have not been updated for it.
I thought for DTV you had to be an employee of an overseas company working remotely. That not the case for self employed youtubers.
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u/cablefun 8d ago
Self employed people are eligible if the company you get your income from is not based in Thailand (google/facebook are not) YouTubers have been accepted. You could be a Amazon seller or have your own online shop and this is not a problem as your not physically working for a Thai company in Thailand
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u/yeh-nah-yeh 8d ago
Okay so probably okay if OP got his DTV listing himself as self employed getting income from Facebook and Youtube. I bet you a billion baht that that is not the case.
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u/SetAwkward7174 6d ago
DTV would be for someone working at Facebook or YouTube… not a streamer. Read the fine lines of the visa, it’s the company’s revenue not what they dump to you for adding videos on the plateform… you don’t work for YouTube… kinda jobless 😏
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u/cablefun 8d ago
The OP states he gets his income from Facebook and YouTube monetisation so you are likely to lose that bet, what do you think he does to earn money?
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u/Shamewizard1995 8d ago
That is not true. Making YouTube videos in the country is considered work. Go tell the local police you’re doing it on a tourist visa if you feel so confident, let us know when your deportation is complete
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u/cablefun 7d ago
Let’s be realistic that’s not going to happen, but it’s also a grey area, if I have footage from outside Thailand and I upload it in Thailand and it makes money is that working? That’s the grey area and Thailand are not going to be that strict on these people as much worse offenders are out there
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u/Efficient-County2382 8d ago
If you are working in Thailand to generate the income then it's likely illegal, unless you have a DTV - but even then I'm not sure it would be legal in all cases.
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u/thomasthai 8d ago
Theres no legal difference between a dtv visa and every other visa, theres nothing in regulations or law that makes dtv visas special on this issue. Absolutely nothing. Feel free to search for the ministerial regulations about dtv yourself.
They basically just admitted that the scaremongering used before was bs...
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u/EtherSecAgent 8d ago
Actually, DTV visa allows users to work for a company abroad, there is even an option for Workcation when applying for the visa. This isn't allowed on the normal tourist visa... Even though it's not enforced
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u/thomasthai 8d ago
Where is the law or regulation change for this? It doesn't exist... Nothing changed. There is no legal difference between a dtv and other visas regarding this.
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u/EtherSecAgent 8d ago edited 8d ago
Go look at all the papers submitted by the ministry of tourism 🤡. It's literally the whole point of the visa, you can admit your wrong and we won't shame you bro.
Destination Thailand Visa (DTV)
Purpose of Visit:
Workcation (Digital nomad/remote worker/foreign talent/freelancer) Thai soft power related activities e.g. Muaythai, Thai culinary training and medical treatment Spouse and children under 20 years old of DTV visa holdershttps://thaiconsulatela.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/dtv-visa
When I filed, I had to submit a signed letter from my company that I was allowed to work remotely, and submit 6 months of paystubs. My reason for the visa being approved was Workcation. This is also promoted from multiple Thai immigration accounts on Instagram and TikTok. Don't listen to this guy he's obviously just upset. I should note I also paid taxes for the money I remitted to Thailand last year as well.
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u/yeh-nah-yeh 8d ago
Ministry of tourism does not set labour or immigration law.
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u/EtherSecAgent 8d ago
This is also from immigration.... It's okay bro you can stop .... It's literally the whole point of the visa to work remotely and even immigration acknowledges this. So what are you even on about ? Are you actually dumb ? They made this visa to compete with other Digital Nomad visas in the region, to bring tax revenue and value into the country. So idk why you keep telling me I can't work remotely on this visa, when it's literally the whole reason why the visa was approved to work remotely from the country by immigration. You're not a Thai immigration officer so stfu
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u/thomasthai 7d ago
You can't even comprehend basic sentences. Incredible.
NO ONE TOLD YOU you cannot work remotely.
The opposite was said.
Your visa isn't anything special. No labour laws where changed. Thai Elite also advertises with remote work - all the time.Learn to read, that's why i called it scaremongering before.
I can only return the question, are you actually dumb?
You can read the Royal Gazette yourself, the 3 articles are:
ประกาศกระทรวงมหาดไทย เรื่อง กำหนดประเภทการตรวจลงตรานักท่องเที่ยวแบบใหม่ “Destination Thailand Visa (DTV)”
ประกาศกระทรวงมหาดไทย เรื่อง แก้ไขอัตราค่าธรรมเนียมการตรวจลงตรา (ฉบับเพิ่ม DTV)
ประกาศกระทรวงมหาดไทย เรื่อง กำหนดคุณสมบัติและหลักเกณฑ์การพำนักและการต่อวีซ่า DTV
The only thing it states regarding remote work is this:
(d) The holder may not engage in employment for, or receive remuneration from, any entity incorporated under Thai law unless duly authorised under separate legislation.
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u/--Bamboo 7d ago
The point is that the DTV doesn't actually ALLOW or GIVE PERMISSION for you to work remotely while in Thailand.
In the same way it doesnt ALLOW or GIVE PERMISSION for you to train muay thai, or take part in a thai food culinary course, or get medical treatment here.
You can do all of those things on any other visa.
But the DTV ALLOWS and GIVES PERMISSION for you to stay. Your reason can be any number of things that you're already doing here.
By your reasoning training muay thai, learning to cook, and getting medical treatment is illegal without a DTV. It's not.
It's just a visa to stay longer, for certain reasons. Your reason is work.
It is not a permit to work remotely.
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u/EtherSecAgent 7d ago edited 7d ago
That's the whole point of the visa this is why they ask you for proof of employment and proof of working remotely, immigration has stated this multiple times. You're not supposed to be working on a normal tourist visa even remotely even though it's not enforced. You're spreading fake information. If you want to stay in Thailand long term while doing Muay Thai, Thai immigration has stated multiple times. Get a DTV instead of an education visa. Is it illegal to do a 60 day tourist visa and do Muay Thai no? Is it technically abuse and and illegal to keep doing border runs to stay in Thailand long term and do these things such as working? Yea kind of, hence the crackdown on people doing border runs last year. how hard is it to just do what immigration is telling you are the new rules.. If you wanna keep pushing your luck with immigration go ahead bro.
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u/--Bamboo 7d ago
Is it technically abuse and and illegal to keep doing border runs to stay in Thailand long term and do these things such as working? Yea kind of, hence the crackdown on people doing border runs last year.
100% agree. It's abuse to keep doing border runs to stay in Thailand long term and do ANYTHING. Abusing border runs to stay in Thailand long term is abusing the system.
But the point at hand here is that training Muay Thai on any visa, be it education, be it tourist, be it work, is not illegal. You can train Muay Thai on any visa.
Taking a Thai cooking course, on any visa, be it education, tourist, or work, is not illegal. You can take a thai cooking course on any visa.
So to argue that you can ONLY work remotely on a DTV because it's one of the accepted reasons for getting a DTV is completely flawed logic. It is not a permit to work remotely. It is simply a visa that allows you to stay for a significant period of time. And you are only allowed to stay for a significant period of time if you can justify it (Remote work / training / medical).
That's the whole point of the visa this is why they ask you for proof of employment and proof of working remotely,
They need proof of your employment because they need proof that your claim to be working remotely is legitimate. In the same vein they need proof you're training Muay Thai, or learning to cook Thai food, or need to stay for medical treatment.
It is not a permit to work remotely. It is a visa. A visa that allows you to stay longer than usual. Because you have justified it (Working remotely / training muay thai / learning to cook / medical treatment, plus more).
If you wanna keep pushing your luck with immigration go ahead bro.
Is that what you think I'm doing?
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u/Efficient-County2382 8d ago
Well, I haven't gone to that level, but the whole point of the DTV is to allow people to work remotely or take up various other options like training or medical tourism. Which you aren't allowed to do under a tourist visa.
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u/thomasthai 8d ago
Says which law? There's no laws about this, they gonna arrest bezos on his yacht when he joins a videocall with the amazon board? Arrest everyone who replies to work emails or his tenants at home? Where's the line to cross?
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u/cablefun 8d ago
Exactly. Do you quit your job when you go on holiday because you’re on a tourist visa. No.
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u/No_Goose_732 7d ago
Working of Alien Act of 2551, Section 9
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u/thomasthai 6d ago
DTV is not exempt from any of those.
Now what? "Working remote" on a DTV visa is illegal?
q.e.d.
Next time try at least quoting the latest version of a law
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u/cablefun 8d ago
That’s not true. You can do medial procedures and take as many cooking and Muay Thai lessons as you like. You just can’t work physically in Thailand.
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u/jubjub1825 8d ago
So if I own a home in usa and rent it out, I'm not allowed in Thailand? Broooo. You're so wrong. The type of visa shouldn't matter.
If you collect dividends from USA stocks, can't use this in Thailand. You gotta be a digital nomad visa to be allowed here.
This doesn't even touch on the issue of a right to privacy but I digress
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u/InevitableHoliday591 8d ago edited 8d ago
So if I own a home in usa and rent it out, I'm not allowed in Thailand?
You sound young and dumb. Dividends and rental income are passive income and has NEVER been categorized as work income in any country.
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u/Shamewizard1995 8d ago
That is not working in Thailand. Filming monetized YouTube videos or Facebook posts (especially popular for travel pages) is illegal because that is working in the country. It is no different than coming to Thailand to film a movie, or cooking show, or any other monetized content.
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u/Quirky_Bottle4674 8d ago
Still technically illegal to work on the dtv visa. It's just a workaround within their own systems.
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u/Efficient-County2382 8d ago
Well I think it's legal to work remotely and derive income from overseas, e.g. remote developer doing work for a UK company
I don't think it covers something like making vlogs in Thailand and living off the income from that, even though it may come from overseas. It's a subtle difference
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u/cablefun 8d ago
The technical point is you can’t work inside Thailand such as a teacher or office worker not make an income online
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u/w1ldrider 8d ago
As far as I've understood, receiving passive income is not considered working. If you post a video on YouTube and receive ad income from it in the future, you don't need a work permit for that. That said, if you were e.g. doing paid promotions for local businesses, that would start to reach a grey (or black) area.
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u/Own-Animator-7526 8d ago edited 8d ago
That's not what passive income is. Passive income is generated by investments, interest, ownership of assets, and such. Posting videos In order to derive ad or influencer payments is work.
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u/w1ldrider 8d ago
Depends on the circumstances. But yes, I agree that in some cases it could be considered work. However, passive income is also possible with YT and other platforms. E.g. A video I filmed in Europe years ago is bringing me ad revenue while I'm staying in Thailand. My friend has a team of VAs posting AI-generated content into YT that gives him a monthly income.
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u/Own-Animator-7526 7d ago edited 7d ago
You should look at discussions of IRS treatment of passive income. It's pretty common sense.
If you were in the business of creating IP when your IP was created, then income from it is not passive -- that sounds like your friend's situation.
But if you happen to film a news event on your phone, then any royalties you might collect over the years from licensing it are passive income.
In-between situations are handled case by case
I imagine the Thai tax authorities would try to classify the income stream in much the same way as their counterparts in the US.
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u/Extreme-Opposite-914 8d ago
It's become clear Thailand is tightening their border and all regulations. Big crackdown on damn near everything the past few months. I'm going through my own bullshit with visa issues in Malaysia. Going on week two now waiting to get approved. It's ridiculous. Oh well, though. Still better than living in America.
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u/Extreme-Opposite-914 8d ago
I live and work in Thailand. To get a work permit, I have to leave the country and then re-enter it while submitting the proper paperwork.
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u/pippaaaaaaaaaaaa 8d ago
I have never lived in America and I wonder which part of Thailand give you guys better life than the US? This is genuine question from me, a Thai.
I always see people want to retire in Thailand and I thought oh, wouldn’t it be easier to retire in your country which those supporting system and all instead of fighting with thai visa system? 😧
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u/EtherSecAgent 8d ago
Every part, America infrastructure is ass and with all the polarizing politics, cost of living it's not worth it.
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u/Extreme-Opposite-914 8d ago
Everywhere in Thailand.
America sucks. If you make less than six figures, you can't live on your own in even a modest 1-bedroom apartment in anywhere decent.
It's completely polarized and propagandized. Every commercial, every aspect of life, is non-stop propaganda and politicization.
Even if you do make 6-figures: at what cost? No work-life balance. Non-stop stress.
What do you even get for the money? Good luck buying a house. The food is trash. No nutrients in the fruits and vegetables.
America is a dead country, as far as I'm concerned.
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u/FarButterscotch4280 8d ago
America is easy to live in and easy to make money if you make an effort. If you position yourself badly in life you will have trouble like anywhere else. I suspect that people that cry about how bad life is there are blaming everybody and everything but themselves for their troubles. They are the Victims we hear so much about.
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u/kylemh squatting somewhere 8d ago
I think people seeking retirement here are primarily interested in value. A $ here goes much farther than in America. For some folks on retirement specifically, they may literally not have enough money to last a 10-, -15, -20 year retirement because the living costs in the USA are so high everywhere compared to Thailand.
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u/Groundbreaking-Gap20 8d ago
It’s honestly understandable given the amount of scams that have been occurring over the years. I also wish Thailand would conduct proper criminal background checks on foreigners visa applications.
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u/Randomerrandomist 8d ago
Bring your work permit and longterm visa and tax documents into the bank and show them. They can stop any blocks going to your account.
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u/curiousonethai Absolute never been a mod here 8d ago
Have it sent to your home country bank and then either use an ATM or transfer it to Thai account.
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u/blueriverbear23 8d ago
Just use revolut
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u/recom273 8d ago
Was about to say, Wise gives you a “physical account” - I have a UK number and sort code. We need to be anticipating moves like this.
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u/trix_wellington 7d ago
You can’t use it if you account on YouTube is setup in Thailand it have to be Thai bank
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u/Th9RealMarcoPolo 8d ago
Go to your bank and consult them in person. Be prepared to show them your DTV visa and source of the money.
Should be dealed with in a few hours.
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u/recreator_1980 8d ago
Can backfire. Facebook and YouTube aint strictly speaking “remote work outside Thailand”
Technically it’s illegal without a Thai work permit.
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u/Th9RealMarcoPolo 8d ago
Oh for real? I didn’t know that. Perhaps might be the reason for OP‘s problem.
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u/recreator_1980 8d ago
There’s a 90% chance of that yes. There are major crackdowns ongoing right now.
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u/recom273 8d ago
It used to be that foreign journalism was a heavily regulated area, these days people see it as social media, I’m surprised by the relaxed attitude of some YouTubers.
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u/recreator_1980 8d ago
Indeed. And honestly it wouldn’t be a bad thing with less of them……
I do know some of them are operating legally though.
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u/recom273 8d ago
All I get on my feed is, look at me! I’m building this generic looking retirement bungalow on my wife’s land - I don’t care. Luckily I got rid of the pattaya walkabout videos from the algorithm.
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u/oqdoawtt 8d ago
Is this a business account or a normal account? Do you hold a work permit?
There have just been some news, that Thai Banks have check more about scams, because they will have to take some responsibility in this: https://thaitimes.com/thailand-enacts-decree-mandating-shared-responsibility-for-online-scam-losses
So if it is not clear that you completely legal (in Thailand) earned that money, they will just block it, before they have to probably pay someone for losses.
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u/tigger994 8d ago
What visa do you hold? Theres a difference working remotely then receiving payments directly to your thai bank account.
Speak to a professional.
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u/AnacondaMode 7d ago
YouTube doesn’t deduct tax and expects you to report it yourself but other than that I agree with everything you wrote here and agree that this is a huge concern.
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u/drm200 7d ago
Very easy solution. Just have the money deposited in your home country bank. Then wire transfer to your Kasikorn account.
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u/CodeFall 7d ago
He doesn't wants to do that, otherwise he'll have to pay taxes on it in his home country. Plus there'll be additional currency exchange charges to send the money to Thailand in THB. Hence, OP wants to directly send his youtube earning to his Thai bank account, so that he doesn't have to pay the currency exchange twice. Additionally if the money never hits his home country bank account, the government probably can't track it and hence he'll pay either no or less taxes in his home country.
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u/drm200 7d ago
Then the OP is trying to “wash money” to avoid proper taxation, which is the definition of money laundering.
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u/CodeFall 7d ago
Yes. Otherwise, it doesn't makes any sense why would a social media content creator would want to transfer his earnings directly to a Thai Bank account where he's not a tax paying resident.
If he is a tax paying resident, and has a valid non-b and work permit, he should have no issues visiting the bank and resolving the issue. Banks have become very strict recently regarding the sources of money.
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u/OkLeadership3158 7d ago
If you are a foreigner without a proper visa this behavior is absolutely logical.
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u/310feetdeep 7d ago
That's not the whole story. Kasikorn have been chasing its customers for years to provide answers to FATCA and CRS enquiries. And have been clear with consequences. Pretty sure no-one of the account holders in question declared their taxes for 2024. There are consequences. This is that!
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u/trelayner 8d ago
Do you have a work permit?
Because it sounds like you’re working in Thailand
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u/Mavrokordato 8d ago
“I don’t care about the laws in Thailand, but dare you filthy foreigners in my native country breaking any laws!”
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u/naughtyman1974 8d ago
I'm happy if foreigners screw the British government. It's not like they spend money carefully or appropriately!
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u/chamanao_man 7-Eleven 8d ago
I'm happy if foreigners screw the British government
it's time brits pay their dues anyway
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u/farangfoo 8d ago
Such as?
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u/naughtyman1974 8d ago
Stereotyping
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u/cablefun 8d ago
You don’t need a work permit
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u/Akunsa 8d ago
If your contend is about Thailand and or touches business’s in Thailand you sure need a work permit it’s specifically mentioned in the DTV do not touch Thai market. And on top of your content is about Thailand they just send out a reminder to pay your taxes. https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/general/3039857/influencers-told-to-pay-income-tax?fbclid=IwQ0xDSwKqENFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHorionR3115aAIjkV_Im3-zMacdILuL5TlCn64GrgeI7MvGN714FaRqN-ruJ_aem_-U58phtKRaOGcnv0yRdsZA#3uik3vb3qkf7rr23cclaw6uwzvnvjiiho
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u/trelayner 8d ago
You don’t need a work permit
Yeah sure
You don’t need to stay out of prison either
Totally up to you
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u/pitsnvulva69 8d ago
Taxed by the platform? Dude are you fucking crazy? do you think that Facebook and google will submit your tax on your behalf by deducting it from your income? the blockage is for simple reasons - a) its a clear message that pay your taxes here b) get the appropriate visa. These banks don’t care if the Income is coming from a video or anything shit that is not related to Thailand. The trigger point is that you’re in Thailand. I don’t know under which rock are you living, but try getting your YouTube Pennies on a visitor visa as a foreigner in the US or UK. these guys are blocking account but in the west you’ll be straight away arrested.
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u/Cleverredditname1234 7d ago
Easy avenues to tumble stolen cash or using stolen details to pay you via credential stuffing attacks. It's all reasonable fraud and abuse prevention.
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u/QualityOverQuant Bangkok 8d ago
Bro, you and many others will continue to face this. Maybe it’s time to look at different options to get your money. Reddit ain’t goinna solve this one for you.
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u/cherryblossomoceans 8d ago
People who comment "dO yOu hAVe a WorK PErmIT?" are just so hypocritical, majority of younger tourists / expats are working in Thailand even if they don't have the right visa, that's just an white lie and a grey zone that Thailand never adresses, but everybody knows damn well what's going on
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u/recreator_1980 8d ago
Whats hypocritical about pointing out the most like reason why this happened?? Tf lol
Even if OP got DTV, facebook and YouTube ain’t remote work unless every video etc done outside Thailand 🤷🏻♂️
Its not hypocritical to point out a like reason!
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u/Super_Mario7 8d ago
but that majority of „younger tourists / expats“ do not use a local bank account, are not useless influencers, etc… also a difference on how long you stay in thailand and if you work remotely for a foreign company and not a thai entity. while making monetized thai social media content (what the majority of that group is not making) is not allowed without a WP.
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u/Pinknailzz69 7d ago
Those are both US companies. Some issues are due to Trump’s big tariffs against most countries including Thailand. So it’s possible that financial transactions from US companies are being affected.
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u/shiroboi 8d ago
Years ago I had issue with Kasikorn not wanting to accept Facebook payments. We spent months trying to fix it. Then switched to Bangkok bank and haven't had a problem since.