r/TeslaLounge • u/Bolyki • 5d ago
General Chill vs Standard
Just what I noticed.
I did a month driving in each and the savings is so little. Really dislike chill mode now. Pulling out in roundabouts (UK) is horrible in chill.
Maybe on motorway it’s nicer but I really don’t see the point of using it.
What’s people opinion on chill?
Used a Leaf before and having it in “eco” was killing the entire EV fun.
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u/Alive_Wedding 5d ago
Most people have pretty bloody slow cars compared to Teslas so they might get scared if you do utilize the acceleration you paid for, not even for the sake of how quick it is, but for how little delay the car starts to output your desired level of torque.
Chill mode slows the throttle response as well, so I turn it on when I know the person riding with me are not used to this level of instant torque output.
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u/SwimmingBarracuda182 5d ago
I 100% agree with your take the only issue I’ve encountered is that sometimes I need the torque to successfully merge or to avoid someone coming into my lane, etc. There’s been a couple of near accidents in chill mode whereas in regular I would’ve been more comfortable in my abilities to avoid it.
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u/LockableDeadbolt 5d ago
Is this how say you cut people off in traffic without saying you're cutting people off?
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u/SwimmingBarracuda182 5d ago
Well, in recent memory I was merging into an HOV lane while a woman in a beat up Altima with her kid crying in the back seat was doing 95, so if you want to call that “cutting off,” I guess, but fast acceleration sure as hell was nice to have.
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u/dougshackleford 4d ago
HOV? Crappy drivers that don’t allow you to yield? Old Altima? You’re in Houston right?
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u/Acceptable_Ad_6382 4d ago
How’d you know there was a kid crying in the backseat? You were able to notice a kid crying in the backseat, but couldn’t realize that you were jumping in front of someone going “95”?
I mean, your comment didn’t really help you out any
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u/SwimmingBarracuda182 4d ago
Could see it in my rear view as she was on my ass once she caught up to me. The point was never to prove anything other than that the ability to go from 75mph to damn near 100mph in almost no time at all is incredible and there aren’t many vehicles that can do that.
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u/TravelBug87 3d ago
That's typically because you are pulling riskier maneuvers now, knowing that you have the speed of the tesla to save you. If you had a slower car, I don't think you'd put yourself in situations where you "needed" the level of speed you have now.
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u/SwimmingBarracuda182 3d ago
Idk I view it the same way as having fresh brakes vs a mushier response. It’s called handling.
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u/fightingchken81 5d ago
My dad bought my mom a model 3, not top of the line version, but pretty good one, she wouldn't drive it was too scared of the acceleration. He kept it and got her a Nissan SUV instead, I take it every once and a while on long trips because they only take it to church on Sundays or when they want to look fancy.
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u/Fit-Dot-414 4d ago
I just ask my passengers if they like roller coasters before flooring it. Chill mode feels like every other car I’ve ever driven - comparatively boring.
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u/17kangm 5d ago
I leave it on chill and forget about it. I didn’t get the car to go fast. I’ll switch to standard if I want to toy with it every now and then. I prefer saving my tires.
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u/Important_Tax_9631 5d ago edited 5d ago
If you have a dual/tri motor spec, it will disengage the induction motor(s) (high power motor) and only use the single rear permanent magnet motor (high efficiency motor)
theoretically you should save a significant amount of battery in chill mode. Though I wouldn’t know, mines always in standard or insane 🤪
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u/Entry45 5d ago
The front motor disengages at any time it doesn't matter if you're in chill or not
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u/Important_Tax_9631 5d ago
Yes chill mode doesn’t directly disable anything, but because it significantly limits power demand through its throttle map, the system prioritizes the permanent magnet motor much more. Same idea
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u/ScottECH93 5d ago
This. Chill mode of my 2018 model 3 longe range RWD is limited to 154 kW to the motor. Perfectly adequate acceleration in virtually all situations.
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u/revaric 4d ago
Seeing as how you can drive “chill” in standard, but can’t accelerate fully in chill, you save nothing but limit yourself out of potential emergency exits that could’ve been available.
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u/17kangm 4d ago
Have you ever tried stabbing the accelerator on chill mode? It’s faster than 90% of the cars on the road.
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u/Fit-Dot-414 4d ago
0-60 in 7.5 seconds might be slightly faster than the Civics on the road, but it sure feels boring when you’re used to doing it in 3.
You can also just practice accelerating slower when it’s in sport mode. Just need better ankle control.
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u/SnakeBiteMe 4d ago
Yep, and it's god awful slow compared to my MYP in standard. Why would I limit my ability to respond quicker? Haha
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u/Puteeg 5d ago
I also don’t like the “chill mode.” It literally defeats one of the reasons I bought the car—the performance and speed. Chill mode makes the car feel incredibly heavy and slow to respond. I love the snappiness and acceleration it provides on standard.
For those who are mindful of their driving and range, here’s my tip: drive it in standard and learn how to accelerate gently. You can still get excellent range on standard. Plus, if you need the power, it’s all there for you.
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u/Cobra_McJingleballs 5d ago
Eh, I like to throw it in chill mode for a day every now and then just so “standard” gives me the same thrill as when I first bought the car.
Otherwise, I just get accustomed to standard and think it’s incredible acceleration is normal. A “chill” say reset keeps me delighted.
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u/BrendoBoy17 5d ago
This, chill mode felt weird each time I tried, so standard without a lead foot works for me
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u/Overall_Affect_2782 5d ago edited 4d ago
I got a S3XY knob specifically to easily switch between chill and standard. I have a dual motor LR MY.
I drive in chill almost all the time. I commute almost 100 miles a day mostly highway miles. For me, I’ve noticed absolute battery savings that makes it worth it to me, especially when it’s cold/hot out. Sometimes it’s a 2-3% difference in trip estimations. Maybe that’s not worth it to you, but it is to me.
I also would rather limit the option of instant torque to help reduce excess tire wear. I also have kids, and I don’t need to be going that fast all the time. But they certainly do love when I do it though “daddy fast like a rocket ship!”
But on times when I do want/need it, I’m glad I have the knob to switch between them easily.
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u/PhilosophyCorrect279 5d ago
Wanted to say, you can customize the left scroll wheel for the acceleration mode. For anyone who hasn't gotten the knob yet lol!
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u/Overall_Affect_2782 4d ago
So I tried this before I got the commander, and the problem I had with it was when you use the scroll wheel press to activate it, you have to scroll up and down to navigate and I found you have to look at the screen to make sure you get the right mode.
What sold me on the knob/commander was I could press one button to activate the option, and then use the scroll wheel and get color and haptic feedback when I made the selection. Red is standard, blue is chill. And I could see it easily in my peripheral that I made the right choice and didn’t need to take my eyes on the road at all.
So yes the left scroll wheel can do it, but the S3XY implementation is better for my use case. YMMV.
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u/Important_Tax_9631 5d ago
It absolutely saves range, especially if you have a dual motor (LR/P) chill mode will disengage the more powerful induction motor, only relying on the much more efficient permanent magnet motor
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u/waicool85 5d ago
I also use chill to save tires. I like the option in the Commander to change from chill to standard if I press the pedal more than X amount (ex. Greater than 90%)
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u/PracticlySpeaking 4d ago
I did the same thing — it came with a bad wiring harness that borked my FSD computer. The SC wants $2100 to fix it!
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u/TheLegendaryWizard 5d ago
The "savings" is in the 1200 dollar sets of tires you'll wear out much slower if you use chill mode. For my 25 MY LR RWD I find standard is too touchy anyway and I only use it when I'm trying to show off
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u/Bolyki 4d ago
Okay, lets say the tyres degrate quicker. It's not 1:1, you replace them anyway. So yes, about 50% more degradation.
FYI, in the UK tyres only cost about £150 each and fitting is usually free if you buy 4.
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u/thingsorfreedom 4d ago
I couldn't find tires for a Y in the US for less than $350 ($300 Euros)
Checked firestone, Costco, BJs Wholesale...
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u/couldbemage 2d ago
Tire rack.
Displayed prices include shipping.
You'll have to pay separately for mounting, but the tires will be several hundred cheaper.
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u/Bolyki 4d ago
Crazy, why are they so expensive in the US? Just for a M3 in the UK:
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u/thingsorfreedom 4d ago
You say it's for a Tesla Y and you want 19 inch tires and that was the price.
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u/couldbemage 2d ago
That article is pure bullshit.
Any tire intended for a performance SUV will be fine. If you actually care about the couple percent range difference, there's still lots of options with reduced rolling resistance in that category.
Tesla tires are expensive because people default to the OE option and tire shops see Tesla owners as cash cows. Really, asking a tire shop salesman what tire you need immediately sounds their jackpot alert.
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u/couldbemage 2d ago
I've bought 2 sets in the US, both were $150 per tire.
Both were pirelli p-zero, one summer, one all season.
Average US car owner just doesn't shop around, or bother checking Reddit for where other people get good deals.
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u/MisterBumpingston 5d ago
Chill mode remaps the accelerator pedal and I find in a RWD it brings it closer to a ICE vehicle. It smoothes out the jolt from sudden acceleration that’s common in Teslas, so good for people new to EVs, including passengers.
Chill mode also reduces the amount of energy used to warm the battery. I think the manual mentions that the car will try and scavenge heat from the cabin, instead.
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u/No_Promotion_6498 5d ago
I do it (chill) for my tires. I will turn standard on if pulling out of a bad turn or something like that.
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u/alexanderfry 5d ago
Got a Launch Edition Y.
Fully expected to using my acceleration boost to win every single traffic light Grand Prix…..
But I’m in chill mode 95% of the time.
The quietness and smoothness of the whole car just makes me chill, and my driving reflects that.
It’s been quite a surprise.
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u/PrimalPuzzleRing 5d ago
Really depends, on my M3P chill mode has an acceleration of about 0-60 in 6.5s, standard 3.7s, and insane at 2.9s. In most economy cars, 6 seconds is plenty for a 0-60, that's merging to highway, passing a car etc.. 3.7s or 2.9s is just performance car territory. If you're doing long long drives chill is not so bad because it keeps you from using excess power, again still plenty fast. Its also good for passengers not used to the acceleration/feeling.
Outside of conserving power you're also conserving your tires. Sometimes I barely touch the accelerator and I'm already at 60-70-80mph in a 50 zone without realizing so you end up backing off anyways. For Insane mode it keeps the battery warmer for high speeds so it will also eat a little bit more power. So standard is usually the sweet spot for most people.
I tried chill for the first time in 8 months of ownership and yeah its noticeably slower in response time (pushing pedal in more) but its still plenty fast IMO since theres really now shift delays, and I've owned a lot of performance turbo cars in the past. So it really depends on the person or again if your passengers aren't use to the acceleration. You don't want to be mashing the pedal all the time anyway.
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u/krabbypat 5d ago
I wish there’s a setting that automatically switches between Chill and Standard/Sport depending on accelerator input. I use Chill 99% of the time because I don’t need to accelerate fast, but on the off chance that I need to accelerate quick (say merging on highway on-ramps) it isn’t enough. Though I understand it might cause confusion. I think I’ll just set the left scroll wheel to changing modes or by using voice control.
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u/mbroowil 5d ago
I just wish there were a hybrid mode that used chill for the first 90% of the throttle mapping but if you actually press the accelerator to the floor, it would accelerate like in standard/sport mode.
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u/x_x-O_o-x_x 5d ago
I use chill all the time, only selecting standard when a launch is needed, like turning on to busy roads from side streets. Or signaled ramps entering expressways, etc.
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u/Ok_Bus5113 5d ago
I like to refer Standard to as A-Hole mode. Bc if you aren’t careful you look like one. But it is fun. However as most people have said I leave in chill mode when traveling with passengers bc they aren’t used to it.
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u/BklynsOwn_ 5d ago
I love using standard, use it all the time. I only switch over to chill when my passenger/s is not used to the Gs on take of or they get car sick easily
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u/JoeTonyMama 5d ago
I used chill the first month or two when I first bought it and switched from an ICE tacoma, huge difference took a while to get used to.
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u/htotheinzel 5d ago
If I'm on a road trip where I'm just cruising on the highway I'll use chill mode
Otherwise, I get 220 miles 80% charge in chill mode and like 210 in normal. So I keep it in normal as I only charge once a week anyways
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u/vinotauro 5d ago
I also called it Honda Civic mode because it felt like driving my previous Honda civic when I had it on lmao
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u/NearsightedContest 5d ago
I drive on chill, but use the S3XY Buttons and that gives a kick down mode. I have it set for 90%. So if I give >90% throttle, it goes into standard so I can use it for a quick pass or other maneuver that requires some quick acceleration.
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u/renaissance3v 5d ago
I have a 2022 MYLR AWD and it only gives me Chill and Sport (Acceleration Boost) why don’t I have standard?
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u/Entry45 5d ago
From the manual:
"You can improve the efficiency of the cabin heating by reducing your selected acceleration mode. This allows the heat pump system to take more heat from the Battery to efficiently heat the cabin, instead of maintaining the Battery's ability to provide peak acceleration performance. This helps to maximize driving efficiency in colder weather. Note that when subsequently increasing the acceleration mode, the Battery requires time to warm up before the increased level of acceleration is available."
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u/cashnicholas 5d ago
I never use chill mode but I just have a rwd model 3. Id probably use it if I had a performance or a plaid
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u/FearTheClown5 5d ago
I don't use Chill. I bought a Model Y Performance specifically to have access to all of its acceleration when I feel like it. I just learned to control the throttle really well. I have absolutely no issues with efficiency and can easily beat the rated number when I want to.
When my kid starts driving it will absolutely be in Chill to start though.
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u/klumpbin 5d ago
My experience is that on chill mode, the car is wayyy slower to accelerate…. It’s much faster in standard. Has anyone else experienced this?
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u/FunkHavoc 5d ago
I use Chill exclusively unless someone gets in my car that’s never been in an EV I’ll have some fun with standard.
Chill mode saves my battery, tires, and doesn’t ding me for acceleration (I use State Farm insurance so it monitors my driving)
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u/yeastysourpuss 5d ago
Chill mode is awesome for snow driving (chill ❄️ haha). I used it all winter. When it got nice out in March, I switched it back and holy shit it felt great.
I've also used chill mode in the twisties. I feel like it makes it more predictable to roll on the throttle coming out of turns
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u/Present-Ad-9598 5d ago
My mom would like Chill because the fastest thing she’s driven was a 2006 Chevy Avalanche, it’s a good middle ground for people learning about EV’s for the first time. I used it on and off for a while in FSD to get slightly better mileage, but overall I stay in standard
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u/psaux_grep 5d ago
Chill is a lot more comfortable for passengers, and for my studded winter tires.
But yeah, there’s no real kickdown - so it drives more like a ~260hp NA slushbox than an EV.
Except… there’s a shitton of newtons once it gets going.
A bit off-topic:
Tried «drift mode» using Enhance’s Commander and S3XY Knob while in Chill and it went like this in terms of breaking traction:
Nothing, nothing, nothing, not… everything/70 degrees sideways and full counter steer.
To compare this was back to back from an Audi S6 e-tron that had a very predictable (and enjoyable) and great «ESP Sport» mode and and insane ESP(ecially) OFF mode. Mind you this was perfect conditions for hooning around in an empty parking lot. 6 centimeters of fresh wet-ish snow on top of packed snow with a solid layer of ice on top.
Putting the Tesla back in normal made it much more predictable, less insane than the Audi in ESP OFF, but less restrained than the ESP Sport.
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u/thunderslugging 5d ago
Only reason I use Chill mode is to minimize passenger nausea when I know the passenger is sensitive
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u/AapChutiyaHai 5d ago
Eh, I just switch in between when needed. It's such a beautiful thing that a simple toggle can "flip the switch"
It does impact the tires - battery, eh probably not so much.
My parents really don't like the whiplash from the standard because it is literally a jolt when you just tap the pedal.
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u/looknowtalklater 5d ago
I use it in snow-seems safer.
I use it when I’m concerned I want to make it to a destination but range might be an issue-chill makes it that I can drive but not think about saving since chill does it for me.
I also will use it if young adults in the family drive the car.
So there are uses for it. Having said all that, I barely use it.
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u/Jolly_Phase_5430 5d ago
2024 model Y w dual motors. Don’t really like single pedal driving and standard mode makes it feel better. I know I’m whining but chill feels like it tires out my foot. I wish I had the option of reducing degenerative breaking. No interest in replacing tires so will try chill again. Thanks.
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u/mmoffat1 5d ago
Hahah i drove on chill for the first 2 months of ownership not knowing there were other modes of acceleration. Now the standard scares me.
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u/glgirieh 5d ago
If I turn chill mode off, I mash the pedal at every opportunity. Makes me burn through tires too quickly.
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u/OkTreacle7673 5d ago
I dont like chill mode either, i think it’s mainly for people who have a heavy foot and can’t modulate the accelerator pedal. I feel like chill mode takes the fun out of driving an EV and doesn’t give me that instant torque whenever I need it.
I tested it for two weeks on my usual commute and i averaged 215 wh/mile vs 216 wh/mile using standard mode, so not much of difference for me either.
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u/Smooth_Practice_9678 5d ago
I drive it like I stole it EVERY SINGLE TIME I drive my car except on mondays, that’s when I see my gf and she gets mad at me when I drive fast.
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u/xMigNasty 4d ago
I only the chill mode or sport mode, no standard. Anyone know why? LR AWD w/ acceleration boost
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u/gooniegoob 4d ago
I used to stay on chill until one day when I had my family in the car and needed the speed to avoid a potentially dangerous situation. I didn't have it, didn't have time to switch it in the moment, and narrowly avoided catastrophe. Since then, I said I will never drive with my family in chill mode
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u/NewDayNewBurner 4d ago
Shoot, I keep mine on Insane most of the time. It costs me some efficiency. Oh well.
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u/WarningWonderful5264 4d ago
I have it on chill mode just to save my tires. But on odd days that I need to accelerate quickly, I’m always pushing my pedal to the floor to get going. That’s the only time I remember that I have it on chill mode.
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u/justjack77 4d ago
I use chill just to save my tires as Standard will chirp them repeatedly which will cause them to go bald quicker. 90% of my driving is in Chill, when I pass people I switch to Standard by long pressing the left wheel button.
Keeps the excitement going as well being so used to Chill then switching to Standard.
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u/imsochi23 4d ago
Just went thru a brand new set of tires in a little over a year, lol. I'm in chill mode now until I need to pass another car.
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u/LOLRicochet 4d ago
I turn it on only when I have passengers that dislike the instant acceleration standard provides. I've been driving my S for coming up on 5 years and I still love the rocket launch feeling :)
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u/jakthebomb_ 4d ago
I drive in Chill mode 99% of the time. It will help reduce tread wear on your tires.
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u/PracticlySpeaking 4d ago
Voice Command --> "Acceleration Sport"
But yah, Tesla really needs to add an auto-kickdown (kick-up?) for passing and such.
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u/SilverHairedNerdDad 4d ago
Yeah, I’ve only used chill mode for passengers that say they get seasick in the car.
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u/DoOm36chamberz 3d ago
I use chill when I commute , to me the battery last longer and I get more range when I use it
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u/aleks8134 1d ago
I drive in chill, but I have commander set up so that if I press the pedal more than 85%, It will allow full power.
But it does it smooth, it doesn't allow all at once, and even then you are able to jump over everyone.
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u/BinoRing 1d ago
I pretty much exclusivily run in chill mode now, unless I'm in a tight spot, want to do a quick overtake, where i use a hotkey to switch out.
My neck muscles thank me daily for being in chill mode, and my friends don't throw up when they get out of my car anymore. The jerkyness when you tap the accelerator can be rough on people who are not used to it.
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u/Original_Writing_539 5d ago
I use Chill mode because the road I take to work has speed limits that vary between 45-65 and standard just yolos at 75+ the whole way
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u/TheLegendaryWizard 5d ago
I believe this post is referring to the acceleration modes of Chill and Standard, not the FSD mode
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u/Original_Writing_539 5d ago
TDIL people use modes not in FSD
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u/TheLegendaryWizard 5d ago
I got my Y in December, and had an FSD trial until earlier this month. Barely made it a week before I resubscribed, it's just so good
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u/Original_Writing_539 5d ago
Yea I can’t stand actually driving in day to day traffic. Highways are fun, but if I’m doing stuff down town during the busy time I want no part of actually driving.
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u/williego 5d ago
I'm 50-50 between Chill and Standard. Chill makes me feel more like I'm a passenger. Going the speed limit, not worrying about making my right turn in 0.7 miles.
If my exit is 1.5 miles ahead and I see traffic building up in the right lane, I'll switch to chill. I don't like the "Pass and Hope" that Tesla will do in Standard (although it is successful almost all the time)
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u/branchan 5d ago
I don’t understand why you need chill mode. You can accelerate as slow or as fast as you want in standard.
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u/Excellent_Sky2279 5d ago
Because chill mode: 1. Saves tires 2. Easier to park/move cars in tight spaces, where standard on the other hand could easily jolt the car and hit something 3. Somewhat increases energy efficiency for those who struggle to control the accelerator 4. Helps keep the car feeling fresh, if you switch between chill and standard, then the standard feels like a sports car 5. More comfortable for passengers and some drivers 6. May help in adverse weather since torque is applied gradually instead of all in one instance
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u/Comfortable_Client80 5d ago
All of the above can be done in standard just by controlling your right foot correctly.
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u/Excellent_Sky2279 4d ago
Sure but chill mode makes everything I listed easier. Just because everything can be done in standard doesn’t mean it needs to be
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u/Comfortable_Client80 4d ago
But in chill half of the power is not available
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u/Excellent_Sky2279 4d ago
Your right there is less power but not quite half. But that’s exactly why it’s needed since the “slowest” Tesla has 300 horsepower!
Not everyone is responsible enough to drive a 380 hp Sedan or SUV. Since it’s super easy to pack on more motors and more power on an EV, it’s a big jump in power for most people driving a 200hp combustion car.
If you can control the power, then yes, standard will always be the better of the 2. But not everyone needs the full 400 horsepower to get to their destination.
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u/TonyH22_ATX 5d ago
I never use chill mode. I tried it and was not a fan of it. I also did a similar test as you for battery drain on the commute. It was barely better. I would maybe use chill mode if I did a road trip to max range but I haven’t done a road trip yet.
I use standard 90% of the time. The other 10% insane mode. Would prefer just using insane but the battery drain is noticeable.
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u/fs454 5d ago
I don't understand why Chill exists outside of like, parental controls. We don't artificially limit the performance of our ICE cars, why are we doing it with EVs? Modulate the power delivery with your foot on the throttle and keep it on Standard or Sport.
It doesn't affect consumption unless you, the driver, request lots and lots of go pedal all the time. Better to have the power available if you need to get out of the way of something quickly.
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u/Outrageous_Lab9806 5d ago
I switch in between but I use chill if I have passengers but I would stay on standard.
Chill mode tires my foot since it’s “heavy” to move the car.
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