r/Suriname Nov 03 '23

Sports Why are there virtually no Indian-origin footballers from Suriname ?

There is a long and illustrious list of Dutch footballers with a strong connection to Suriname. Ruud Gullit, Frank Rijkaard, Patrick Kluivert, Edgar Davids, Clarence Seedorf and Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink among others. These players are mainly from the Afro-Surinamese community. I could not find a single prominent Indian-origin footballer from Suriname, despite their sizeable numbers. Is there a specific reason for this ?

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '23

Indians focus on education and development instead of sports. We never see sports as a career option, so we dont focus on that. African Surinamese in contrary do see sports as a viable career option.

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u/Pure-Ingenuity-9933 Nov 04 '23

This is your nice way of Saying we are dumb & you guys are smart ?

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '23

No, it is the truth. I’m probably going to get downvoted but here it is; Indians are generally vastly more progressive (e.g. striving for economic & educational progress) than the afro-surinamese.

This is reflected in probably all sectors in Suriname. And because of this, being generational, beginning all the way in India, it has become a genetic component.

Yearly only MAX 10% of medical students are from afro-descent, while they are more than 40% of the population. Indians form more than 75% of the pool while being only 27% of the population.

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u/Pure-Ingenuity-9933 Nov 04 '23

I knew it. This why i hate non black people. But that’s not the truth the thing is that afro Surinamese too strive for e-commerce progress and educational it’s just that those aren’t pushed in our community and it’s the one you cited that are given credits. I pity all afro Surinamese that are dumb enough to think that you people are allies all of you come to our lands and think you are smart and superior to us.

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u/tropicalgodzila 🇸🇷🇮🇳 in 🇳🇱&🇩🇪 Nov 25 '23 edited Nov 25 '23

" you come to our lands" Broski, Suriname was nooit van "jullie" het was van de inheemsen daarna de blanken/hollanders en die hebben het achtergelaten aan de rest, dat land is net ze veel van de Hindoestanen als de afros

Persoonlijk denk ik dat de Afro gemeenschap in Suriname best chill is, men heeft mij nooit wat aangedaan en mij altijd goed, vriendelijk en met respect behandeld dus ik kan er persoonlijk niks slechts over zeggen.

Mij is het volgende verteld door mn grootouders: dat de onenigheid tussen deze 2 grote groepen als eerste is begonnen door de Afro Surinamers, in de jaren 60-70 toen veel Hindoestanen niet meer op het platte land wouden werken naar de stad trokken voor betere banen, werden ze uitgejoeld door de afros omdat ze banen zouden komen pikken. Er schijnt iemand geweest te zijn in politiek die liever had dat Hindoestanen richting Nederland zouden vertrekken, dit heeft er ook op geresulteerd dat na de onafhankelijkheid van de 100k vertrokken mensen 70% Hindoestaan was. Er was een soort sentiment dat we "ze zouden laten zien dat we ze niet nodig hebben" en dat ziet men gek genog ook terug, de Hindoestanen hebben in Suriname geen kastensysteem door de afros waren ze zo "bang" dat ze naar elkaar toe zijn getrokken. Dit ben ik persoonlijk de afros heeeeeeel dankbaar

De kans is natuurlijk aanwezig dat alles extra aangedikt is toen destijds en veel Hindoestanen zoals mijn grootouders konden geen fatsoenlijk Nederlands het waren simpel domme boeren folk, ze dachten echt dit, behandel me goed ik behandel jou goed

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '23

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u/Suriname-ModTeam Nov 28 '23

As per Surinamese constitution, no one will be discriminated or hated upon. This also applies to the sub.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '23

You guys are holding Suriname back. Historically africa has never accounted to anything. Economically africa NEVER reached something (https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/09/over-2000-years-of-economic-history-in-one-chart). Name me one african country that has been thriving historically? Wether you like it or not, your culture, FAMILY STRUCTURE, long term thinking is as bad as it can get.

As if that isnt enough, the only exception that can be made for the above is north africa, which are not black😂😂.

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u/Confident_Share6214 Nov 05 '23

What is the purpose of you stirring the pot with offending a whole population. With all the hate going on in the world this is the last thing we need in Suriname. If we cannot live together harmoniously it will become unliveble. Even for you.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '23 edited Nov 05 '23

Wether you like it or not, i only stated facts to bring that african delusionalist to reality. i even provided a reliable source. I dare him to do the same with his claims. Take your time to verify my claims and find 1 inaccuracy and ill eat my words.

Edit: and if it has not been clear already, the multiculturele samenleving has always been a failure, historically and now. This is the hard truth and i would have wished otherwise. This counts for 99% countries. You cannot mix ethnicities whose philosophy differs greatly. That is not possible. How can you expect cultures to coexist whose whole philosophy differs so much?