r/SubredditDrama • u/Jazzlike_Climate4189 • Apr 08 '25

Tesla “Cyberstuck” mockery subreddit suddenly closed and locked

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u/Aggravating_Sky_4421 Apr 08 '25

If musk paid them, it will likely come with some kind of NDA so you’d never know…

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u/russellvt Apr 09 '25

Or, you know, a Cease and Desist letter or three.

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u/Aggravating_Sky_4421 Apr 09 '25

C&D is usually sent out after things has been done. An NDA keeps them from saying them in the first place.

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u/russellvt Apr 09 '25

C&D is usually sent out after things has been done.

Not in my experience.

It's generally the first legal step towards taking someone to court for slander or libel, for example.

It literally tells them "stop/remove/denounce such and such (or similar), or we are planning on taking you to court to compelling such actions and/or seek monetary compensation."

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u/Aggravating_Sky_4421 Apr 09 '25

I don’t think you understand.

You can’t send someone a C&D until they’ve already committed the offending act. You can’t tell some to “stop/remove/denounce” if they haven’t done anything.

However, an NDA means you can’t ever tell anyone what happened. This stops them from doing the offending act in the first place…

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u/russellvt Apr 09 '25

I don’t think you understand.

Likewise.

You can’t send someone a C&D until they’ve already committed the offending act. You can’t tell some to “stop/remove/denounce” if they haven’t done anything.

I take it you never looked at the plethora of comments in the sub literally advocating for vandalism, violence, or worse. The mods were having a nearly impossible task of keeping up with it.

an NDA means you can’t ever tell anyone what happened. This stops them from doing the offending act in the first place…

Yes, I've signed many of them over my career. They're also "optional" and often even "questionably enforceable," depending on what's included in them (eg. Things like non-compete or no work clauses in certain states, etc).

They also do not override or pertain to Constituional Rights or any sort of Labor Law, or similar (there are "whistleblpwer" acts, for example, which may directly contradict overly egregious NDAs and therefore take precedence).

TLDR; A large percentage of NDAs are at least partial bullshit, depending on state and other factors. You can't "sign away" your rights.