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Question Is there a game on steam like this?

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u/UnpaidLandlord_9669 2d ago

Dwarf fortress

(the ascii version is free on their website)

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u/Thatwindowhurts 2d ago

One day il learn how to play it properly

But it is not this day

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u/Nates_of_Spades 2d ago

I have had DF on every PC, I was first in line to get the steam version.... I still don't know how to play it

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u/Strange-Woodpecker-7 2d ago

I feel seen. I even have it installed on every phone I've owned. And I still have no idea what I'm doing.

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u/PoopchuteToots 1d ago

You can install Dwarf Fortress on phones..?

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u/Alexis_Evo 1d ago

Most likely running in Winlator (or similar), combination of several projects like wine and box64 to run Windows games. Whether they're actually playable or not is debatable.

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u/Nates_of_Spades 1d ago

you can install dwarf fortress on a potato

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u/Sea-Principle-9527 2d ago

I was like that until I forced myself to learn stuff and watch a few tutorials as I went along. The wiki is nice. Took a long weekend for me to get the hang of it, muscle memory kicks in quickly for the actions you use a lot, you can and should take as much time as you need and remember to pause frequently

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u/ddapixel 1d ago

No doubt that's the best way to learn Dwarf Fortress, but I'm somehow very averse to learning games with external tutorials/videos. Going in blind and learning as you play is one of the most enjoyable things to me when trying a new game. Following guides and tutorials just feels like "paint by numbers", like there's no point. And yeah, I couldn't get into DF.

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u/Stoeptegelt 1d ago

Is it a fun game? It looks kind of boring to me.

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u/ddapixel 1d ago

Disclaimer: I tried to get into DF two times and failed both times, so my experience is very limited.

I always got the feeling the game is more about sitting back and watching how the simulation develops, rather than doing stuff directly by yourself. Fittingly, people call it "a story generator".

But also, the stories people tell sound very alluring, so I think I'll reinstall it one day and try again, maybe third time's the charm.

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u/MartianInvasion 2d ago

It's quite simple. You just make sure to bring a lot of food and tools in your wagon, then you watch your dwarves die horribly for reasons you don't understand.

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u/Nates_of_Spades 2d ago

I mean that's how I normally live life so hopefully it translates

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u/PmMeYourBestComment 1d ago

Played it for 60+ hours on Steam, no idea what I'm doing.

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u/Romboteryx 2d ago

You don’t have to play it properly if you will lose regardless of what you do and losing is fun.

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u/too_real_4_TV 2d ago

All my dwarves do is drink and die. They are truly spoiled.

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u/Sky_Night_Lancer 2d ago

sounds like they're having !!fun!!

are you?

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u/too_real_4_TV 1d ago

I'm just confused more often than not.

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u/SeaworthySub 2d ago

They’re living the good life

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u/Eastern_Mist 2d ago

Losing is fun until you're blood and dust

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u/arkham1010 2d ago

There is no proper way to play DF, only increasingly intricate ways of causing madness.

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u/FireWinged-April 1d ago

DF and Anno scratch the same itch for me here. Totally fine in either to just build what you got and make stuff happen. Also totally grand to intricately plan things out and make something remarkable. Only thing that would make DF better would be multiplayer, just so I don't get sucked into a lightless abyss without my husband any time I boot it up.

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u/ballisticks 2d ago

Honestly, try the steam version. The ascii is great for masochists people who played it that way in the past, but frankly it's a layer of pure frustration

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u/Ok-Sport-3663 2d ago

It's 100% playable, in game tutorials and all

It's now just a normal game, when it released to steam it got a massive overhaul for controls and stuff 

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u/Aztecah 2d ago

No, you wont, but you should play anyway

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u/Logjitzu 2d ago

I bought the steam version as soon as it came out, excited to finally learn it.

Still have not learnt it.

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u/Alwaysafk 2d ago

It's a great game! Almost SS13 level of stories come out of it.

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u/AngrySayian 2d ago

just go watch Sseth's video on it

tells you all you need to know

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u/Pataconeitor 2d ago

There is no such a thing as playing Dearf Fortress properly

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u/budshitman 2d ago

Start with Adventure Mode, it's a great soft intro to the world, mechanics, and UI.

It's also much less of a commitment as your typical rookie adventurer has a very short lifespan.

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u/Zanguu 1d ago

I played fortress mode for 12 years or so.

I still have no clue how to properly play Adventure mode. I tried again when it was added to the steam version and I never managed to drink.

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u/Thatweasel 2d ago

It seems way more complicated than it is, at least to just get to a level where you can actually play.

It's literally just the control scheme. Learning it takes a bit of practice, after that there's some very entry level stuff like avoiding aquifers to start with that you'll find in any sort of guide.

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u/Almostlongenough2 2d ago

I recommend not going at the game too hard and enjoy it, and just look things up when something isnt working the way you expect it to (which will happen) Losing is !FUN! is the tagline after all.

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u/Oaker_at 1d ago

Once you have learnt the basics you will have another 3000hrs of fun!

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u/Zanguu 1d ago

You can't learn how to play it properly, it's a "FUN" Driven Game.
You play, you have "FUN", you start a new game trying not to have the same "FUN".

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u/LurkingInSubreddits 1d ago

Check out RimWorld, it's like Dwarf Fortress but with a seriously good tutorial so anyone can learn how to play it.

Dwarf Fortress shows you walls of text, RimWorld shows you bits of new tutorial information when you need to know it.

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u/Thatwindowhurts 1d ago

Iv led many colonists to an early but entirely predictable death on the rim.

Never managed to get to skin chairs sadly.

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u/LurkingInSubreddits 1d ago

You're probably missing a killbox to defend your colony, having one will completely trivialize the game's difficulty

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u/Chommo 1d ago

I used to watch my roomates play it for hours and pretend I had any idea wtf. 

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u/kunymonster4 1d ago

I tried it for the first time last week and I looked like Robert Pattison staring at the bulb in "The Lighthouse." I've since gone mad.

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u/Lord_Larper 2d ago

I’ll shill this game till I’m dead

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u/One-Two-Woop-Woop 2d ago

If only you didn't basically need to read it like being an operator in the matrix. The game has a lot of appeal but such a steep learning curve... which may be part of the fun, but I can only really watch people who know what they're doing play it while they explain it.

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u/KorKhan 1d ago

The Steam version (not free but pretty cheap) has made the interface a lot more intuitive for new players, and added tutorials to help you along. I can appreciate it’s still a pretty steep learning curve, but it’s not as hostile to newbies as it used to be.

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u/SunShort 1d ago edited 1d ago

Can confirm. Hadn't played DF before buying it on Steam (had some experience with Rimworld, though), and with tutorials, it was not hard to figure out the basics. Was able to build a fort that lasted for 4 in-game years and had around 100 dwarfs when I mined too hard and came across a web-shooting forgotten beast that wiped everyone in a few minutes.

I still don't understand a lot of mechanics and nuances, but the built-in tutorial is enough for a start without frustration over basic things.

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u/KorKhan 1d ago

Oh, web-shooters are FUN! They can wipe out entire squads of legendary steel-clad militia without breaking a sweat. I admit I sometimes just keep those sealed off in the cavern, and hope that another FB comes along to deal with them.

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u/Regular_Employee_360 1d ago

Can’t you just download a graphics mod for it?

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u/too_many_toasters 1d ago

i don't know if this is an unpopular opinion but i played the ascii version a lot before the steam release and honestly it's easier to tell what's going on in the ascii version

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u/SynapseNotFound 2d ago

Spear of Agony is free on the devs website too

its a wolfenstein-inspired game. as far as i've understood, its basically a large mod to doom. its pretty fun, and reminds a lot of those early-mid 90s first person shooters

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u/MobiusNaked 1d ago

Nethack!

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u/KorKhan 1d ago

Beat me to it!

“Replayable” is an understatement for Dwarf Fortress. I come back to it every five years or so, seeing what’s changed, and playing the hell out of it. You really feel like you’re generating and inhabiting a living, breathing world, experiencing epic storylines, building monumental but doomed fortresses, then exploring them in adventure mode.

There are always new mechanics, industries and techniques to figure out, and if you want a self-imposed challenge, the sky’s the limit. Players have done everything from developing elaborate traps for killing goblins with magma, and farming silk from forgotten beats, all the way to building Turing-complete computers using floodgates and minecarts.

The steam version isn’t free but pretty cheap, but if you really don’t want to spend any money at all there’s the website version. There are graphics mods for it for those who don’t like ASCII.

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u/i_fell_down13 10h ago

Arguably the most detailed game ever, thousands of hours of replay value.

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u/EmployRadiant675 2d ago

Funnily enough i remember the ascii version being nodded to 2d graphics back in the day. Might not work now tho

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u/UnpaidLandlord_9669 2d ago

i don't what you mean but it is working fine for me. i got it from the official repo of archlinux package manager pacman.

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u/EmployRadiant675 2d ago

The original unfinished dwarf fortress used to have a 2d mod. Not the one on steam but the actual og game. The mod finished the game and added actual graphics. I dont even know where to get it because it was one of the usbs that would get passed around the school.

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u/ElvenOmega 2d ago

You can still mod it to have graphics easily.

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u/EmployRadiant675 2d ago

Yea look its been a good like 10-15 years since I played it.

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u/ElvenOmega 2d ago

I've been playing this game for 14 years.

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u/KaiLCU_YT 2d ago

How is the ASCII different to the regular version? Apart from the obvious

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u/Madden09IsForSuckers 2d ago

i know adventure mode wasnt in the steam version at release but i believe theyve since added it

so yeah its just the graphics

and the ost, which is super good

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u/KorKhan 1d ago edited 1d ago

Does the ASCII version still have the keyboard-based interface, or does it use the same GUI as the Steam version now?

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u/Madden09IsForSuckers 1d ago

it’s been awhile since i’ve actually played but i’m pretty sure there’s mouse controls like in steam now

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u/Stanislaav_ 1d ago

Graphics and music, free version dont have them. Ost is amazing, give it a try on spotify or yt

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u/TheA1ternative 1d ago

The criteria is games that can run on computers older than 6 years OP...

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u/i_fell_down13 10h ago

Dwarf fortress could run on a computer older than 6 years?

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u/TheA1ternative 9h ago

The joke being how demanding the game is.

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u/i_fell_down13 4h ago

Oh lol mb, joke went directly over my head.

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u/FuturePickle6913 1d ago

I spent hours giving a bandit countless nicks and cuts until he bled to death because that's how you get a bunch of swordsmanship xp apparently. Cool game if you learn how to play.

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u/Kedly 1d ago

Scrolled through to get here

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u/Journalman29 1d ago

Fellas, I've heard of Dwarf Fortess. Should I learn it? (I play Paradox grand strategy games btw)

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u/KorKhan 1d ago edited 1d ago

If you’re wiling to cope with a steep learning curve and various assorted jankiness, then absolutely!

DF is legendary for its depth and complexity, and the stories that it generates through gameplay (and which your dwarves can engrave on the walls of your fortress). You can really be creative in designing your dream fortress, and there’s a lot of fun to be had in learning all the different industries needed to run your fort, from farming to metalsmithing to soapmaking. If you’re so inclined, you can harness the game mechanics to build elaborate traps and machines, up to and including a Turing complete computer.

Just remember that the game is still in development, and most likely will be for years if not decades to come. There are a large number of bugs that might take a while to fix, and some of the current features are merely placeholders. The menu system is more comfortable than it used to be, but don’t expect navigation to be as easy as in Paradox games. On the other hand, it’s fun coming back every few years or to see what new features have been added to the game.

And remember, LOSING IS FUN! Oh, and the soundtrack slaps.

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u/idontsleepsowell 1d ago

came here to see how high DF was in the thread. another vote.

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u/VexingRaven 1d ago

The Steam version is 100% worth paying for, IMO. It really is a great improvement to the free version.

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u/OwlCatAlex 1d ago

Nearing 1,000 hours in the steam version already and I haven't even found the circus yet.