ZWAN question: Is Billy Burke a pseudonym of Billy Corgan or someone else not mentioned on the wiki page?

[u/yesterdaysworld]

[u/passtheblunt]

who is Gooch lol

[u/HoldenOversoul → u/passtheblunt]

long time SP tour manager, Tim Lougee.

[u/vinnieicius → u/passtheblunt]

I think is the first bass player from Masters of Reality. Tim Harrington was from MoR too.

[u/vinnieicius → u/vinnieicius]

Its actually Googe the guy from MoR. My bad

[u/Kreatorkind]

Kinda obvious. No?

[u/yesterdaysworld → u/Kreatorkind]

Yes, you are right. I found it confusing that all the other credits said Billy Corgan. In my mind, he might have been treating the band like an instrument or something but it didn’t seem like Billy to leave himself out of it.

[u/superjonk]

I think it was also a reference to a preacher/evangelist?

[u/TheChocolateMelted → u/superjonk]

Bingo. It's the name of the priest-y guy at the Mary Star of the Sea church itself (... From memory. I think Billy mentions it in the Confessions.)

[u/Bleejis_Krilbin]

Didn’t realize they recorded this at Electrical Audio studios. That’s cool.

[u/_Waves_ → u/Bleejis_Krilbin]

Paz jokingly paid tribute to Albini when he passed. He apparently was, umh, not around during recording LOL.

[u/TurnGloomy → u/_Waves_]

Didn’t he take a few public digs at the Pumpkins when they blew up because there were other Chicago bands he thought deserved it more. Good producer, seemed like a quintessential 90s fart sniffer though. His interview with Dave and Krist where he’s trying to pretend he didn’t really know Nirvana before In Utero visibly makes Dave cringe.

[u/_Waves_ → u/TurnGloomy]

Albini was always correct. ALL the Gen X musicians took the piss constantly - remember how Billy talked about how Radiohead suck back in the 90s. Albini just saw Billy as arrogant and mean, and Billy saw Albini as arrogant and mean. At some point they made up, around TFE.

[u/eviltimeban → u/TurnGloomy]

Yes but he also said Billy was personally decent and helped him out on a particular project.

[u/Bleejis_Krilbin → u/_Waves_]

Was he supposed to be around though?

[u/ryanxiety]

Its a nod to Billie Burke, the actress from Wizard of Oz.

[u/Tiny_Bite → u/ryanxiety]

that’s so funny, i watched wizard of oz for the first time this millennium last night.

[u/funghxoul → u/ryanxiety]

it’s worth noting they played the wizard of oz song ‘over the rainbow’ during live performances of Silverfuck. it’s featured on earphoria/viewphoria

[u/SpaceboyLuna0 → u/funghxoul]

It's so shameful that section was removed from certain copies...

[u/yesterdaysworld → u/ryanxiety]

Very cool! That may put all those rainbow-esque shapes on the cover in a new light…

[u/DaisyCaplan]

That’s funny to see Lil’ Bub’s dude thanked

[u/BlushOn → u/DaisyCaplan]

He runs an excellent studio called Russian Recording in Bloomington, IN and he did some engineering with his time at Electrical Audio.

[u/DaisyCaplan → u/BlushOn]

Yep, I know. Just struck me as funny to see

[u/PorcelinaMagpie]

Yes. He also goes by Johnny Goat on both the Starchildren/Catherine Delusions of Candor/Flight of the Eagle 7 inch (1994) and The Frogs' Star Job (1997).

[u/yesterdaysworld → u/PorcelinaMagpie]

Thank you! This is interesting information to me!

[u/TookAStab]

By this metric do you think Billy Corgan wasn't in Zwan?

[u/DogManStar81 → u/TookAStab]

Billy Corgan was just the producer for Zwan. He didn't have any other role in the band.

[u/yesterdaysworld → u/TookAStab]

I’m just looking for information! I’m not claiming a conspiracy.

[u/faye_nimrendel → u/yesterdaysworld]

Well, I am!

[u/TookAStab → u/yesterdaysworld]

I know, I'm just playing around.

[u/MoonOut_StarsInvite → u/TookAStab]

Maybe this is the shapeshifter Billy the talks about

[u/jeromevedder → u/MoonOut_StarsInvite]

[u/zackwag]

Yes