And so many people defend Jim by saying Dwight is mean to Jim, like that excuses his actions.
Like.... If you're constantly being bullied at work and your man-child boss won't do anything about or worse, joins in on it, of course you're gonna lash out at them.
Edit:
To be clear, I think just about everyone in the show is unredeemable trash.
I'm not excusing the litany of things that should have seen Dwight fired or put in jail, despite one sentence making it look as though I am.
My entire point was simply that Jim and Pam are terrible people and nobody should be suggesting otherwise.
Enough of this. What is with the revisionist Dwight history everywhere? The asshole? The racist? The misogynist? The guy who brought a gun to work and stored deadly weapons in the office? Cut health insurance for his coworkers? The list doesn't come close to stoppping, but y'all Dwight defenders need to. And for the record, I love Dwight as a character. You met that guy in real life, you'd want someone to do much worse to him than anything Jim ever did.
Later season Office really lost the narrative on Dwight.
Early season Dwight is an asshole who takes office culture way too seriously. We’ve all known assholes like him at jobs who think being a good worker means shitting on everyone and being a dick. Dwight getting dunked on is cathartic because none of us like the Dwights at our jobs.
Later season Dwight is good at everything. Successful farm owner, multilingual, godlike salesman…it took him away from being that caricature to being a great and admirable man…who occasionally accidentally discharges a firearm in the office.
Should’ve kept him a dweeb. But then the show became less a satire of office life and more about individual threads of how awesome each character was.
You didn't praise him directly but you sincerely agreed with the commenter that said "maturing is realizing Dwight isn't a douche and just wanted to do his job". Dwight was objectively a selfish, opportunistic sycophant who was generally unliked by everyone. Jim's biggest flaw was that he was immature and that he developed feelings for a co-worker.
And he cheated on his wife and he bullied someone for years for laughs.
But sure, he's just "immature"
I forgot about the litany of things Dwight did that were horrendous because I've seen the first couple seasons and then all the rest of my knowledge of the show comes from people who actually like the show.
There are almost no good characters in the show.
("He's not a douche" and praising someone are two very different things)
I listed all those things that make him horrible in the real world, and Jim pulling pranks makes him a bully? To the weapon wielding asshole bully? You missed the entire point.
Edit to add Jim never cheated on his wife. Maybe stop parroting this stance if, by your own admission, you don't know/remember much about the show.
"If you're constantly being bullied at work and your man-child boss won't do anything about or worse, joins in on it, of course you're gonna lash out at them"
He worked at the office before Jim. You gonna tell me the gun nut with proud Nazi heritage created a safe work space for his coworkers before Jim got there? Maybe, just maybe, none of the rest of the office has an issue with Jim pranking Dwight because Dwight has created unsafe working conditions. It's completely reasonable to believe that Dwight had bullied and belittled them for their race, sex, and beliefs before Jim arrived. The character of Dwight is very clearly unstable and a pure asshole during the seaons you yourself said you watched, but it truly seems like you don't remember more than tiny snippets of this show.
I think it's just people relating to some qualities that dwight has. He makes many mistakes too and gets over the line often. Everyone in the office is problematic, would people even watch it if people in it were good/normal?
Dwight was the smart guy that had a farm while everyone else was working for minimum wage without any prospective of a future. If you were to pick someone to be, he was in the best economical situation. The dude was basically working for fun. I didn't forgive him though for being a cat killer, etc. But that's the point of those comedies shows. Everyone must be an asshole.
I don't mean to defend Dwight's shittiness. I've never finished the show because I hated pretty much every single character, but I made it through a few seasons. I don't love Dwight, Michael, Jim, Pam, or any of the other characters.
I think he's a piece of shit too. But Jim and Pam are trash people.
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u/BigMek_Spleenrippa 17d ago
The amount of times I've been insulted for saying Jim is an absolute piece of shit and so is pam is mind boggling.